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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13045
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:53:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:As CCP is not releasing these numbers it seems that they would cast the current game activity in a poor light if they did. They published the one number that made it look like the game was doing well, and hid all the ones that would make it look bad. Welcome to corporate communication.
But yes, by the looks of it, TQ subscriber numbers are up significantly, roughly to where they were during the heydays of early 2011. Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
911
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:56:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:500k subscribers sounds certainly better than 500k accounts but its probably accounts. Account, subscription. Eh. Distinction without a difference. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
411
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:57:00 -
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Sturmwolke wrote:You can probably run a ballpark figure for TQ, based on the PCU avg of TQ vs Serenity (since those 500K reflects the numbers that are currently subscribed). It should correlate closely to the actual per server split which CCP isn't disclosing atm.
actually you cant, because TQ is spread over basicly the whole world (lots of timezones) while serenety is only spread over 2 (or 3?) timezones in china, so their subscription to PCU ratio is way different to TQ. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1647
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:As CCP is not releasing these numbers it seems that they would cast the current game activity in a poor light if they did. They published the one number that made it look like the game was doing well, and hid all the ones that would make it look bad. Welcome to corporate communication. But yes, by the looks of it, TQ subscriber numbers are up significantly, roughly to where they were during the heydays of early 2011. The PCU is near a record. And its up despite the war on bots. The last PCU record was set when bots were far more rampant than now, and were staying on en-mass 23/7. Its quite likely we have broken the record for peak concurrent Valid subscriptions.
Also the weekly PCU for Serenity is 25% of TQ, so the 400K / 100k split seems about right. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Sturmwolke
372
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:13:00 -
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Jack bubu wrote:Sturmwolke wrote:You can probably run a ballpark figure for TQ, based on the PCU avg of TQ vs Serenity (since those 500K reflects the numbers that are currently subscribed). It should correlate closely to the actual per server split which CCP isn't disclosing atm.
actually you cant, because TQ is spread over basicly the whole world (lots of timezones) while serenety is only spread over 2 (or 3?) timezones in china, so their subscription to PCU ratio is way different to TQ. Not when you average it over 24h or even weekly/monthly. You're after a reasonable ballpark figure, not accuracy to 3 decimal places.
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vyshnegradsky
Organized-Chaos Apocalypse Now.
61
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:14:00 -
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This would be great news if it wasn't for the fact that eve is dying This one's a bit over the edge guys.
Locked for breaking... well, pretty much all the rules.
- CCP Falcon |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13045
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:18:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:The PCU is near a record. And its up despite the war on bots. The last PCU record was set when bots were far more rampant than now, and were staying on en-mass 23/7. Its quite likely we have broken the record for peak concurrent Valid subscriptions.
Also the weekly PCU for Serenity is 25% of TQ, so the 400K / 100k split seems about right. This is roughly my ballpark-figure thinking as well. Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
412
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:35:00 -
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Sturmwolke wrote:Jack bubu wrote:Sturmwolke wrote:You can probably run a ballpark figure for TQ, based on the PCU avg of TQ vs Serenity (since those 500K reflects the numbers that are currently subscribed). It should correlate closely to the actual per server split which CCP isn't disclosing atm.
actually you cant, because TQ is spread over basicly the whole world (lots of timezones) while serenety is only spread over 2 (or 3?) timezones in china, so their subscription to PCU ratio is way different to TQ. Not when you average it over 24h or even weekly/monthly. You're after a reasonable ballpark figure, not accuracy to 3 decimal places. ah, yes if you take the weekly average then it should be comparable
So as of 21st february taken from http://eve-offline.net/ TQ weekly avg : ~36.800 SR weekly avg : ~7.800
so serenity is actually only about 17.5% of the whole population, or about 87.5K subscribers, this would put TQ at 412.500 subs :)
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
648
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:42:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Takseen wrote:Does anyone have survey numbers, or will we have to resort to anecdotes and hearsay? Surveys ask about it, but I have never seen any numbers on it being published. The best guesstimates anyone has been able to offer is ~2 accounts per person, but that was eons ago and good luck not just finding the thread,
There isin Dr E's last QEN a statement that Eve averages 2 characters per account... don't know if thatwas what you were remembering?
Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13047
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:53:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:There isin Dr E's last QEN a statement that Eve averages 2 characters per account... don't know if thatwas what you were remembering? No, that was based on actual data they could easily pull from the servers. I'm thinking about a guesstimate someone did across a couple of NPC and player corps.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
648
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:02:00 -
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With the price of PLEX in China at roughly abillion ISK I wonder if they have significantly less ALTs per character?
Now just don't ask me what that has to do with the price of tea in China Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |
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CCP Nadir
C C P C C P Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:04:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:With the price of PLEX in China at roughly abillion ISK I wonder if they have significantly less ALTs per character? Now just don't ask me what that has to do with the price of tea in China
Now I really want tea, its hard to get good tea in Iceland |
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
449
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:05:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Tippia wrote:I wonder what the breakdown between servers and games isGǪ To be clear, the 500k number includes both our TQ and Serenity (Chinese) servers, but only includes subscribing EVE Online accounts, not Dust accounts.
Really, did you stop counting dusties in wardecs finally?
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Mhax Arthie
Pagan INC
44
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:08:00 -
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Well, the fact that all these ~500K players are playing on the same sever is awesome. We hate, love, kill, scam each other every day, but at the end of the day we are like a big family, something that you can never feel in any other mmo. Truly impressive! |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1187
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:09:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Tippia wrote:I wonder what the breakdown between servers and games isGǪ To be clear, the 500k number includes both our TQ and Serenity (Chinese) servers, but only includes subscribing EVE Online accounts, not Dust accounts. Really, did you stop counting dusties in wardecs finally?
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
564
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:16:00 -
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Mhax Arthie wrote:Well, the fact that all these ~500K players are playing on the same sever is awesome. We hate, love, kill, scam each other every day, but at the end of the day we are like a big family, something that you can never feel in any other mmo. Truly impressive!
I can't stand the lot of you.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7913
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:16:00 -
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Tippia wrote: What is it you're after, really?
In EVE the players are the content. Players on Serenity are meaningless to me. I want to know how many subs are on TQ as a yardstick to know how much content is being generated for me
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
627
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:19:00 -
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CCP Nadir wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:With the price of PLEX in China at roughly abillion ISK I wonder if they have significantly less ALTs per character? Now just don't ask me what that has to do with the price of tea in China Now I really want tea, its hard to get good tea in Iceland
But you've got tea in Iceland *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
564
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:23:00 -
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I'm assuming all tea in Iceland is made from rotten sharks. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
911
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:36:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:I'm assuming all tea in Iceland is made from rotten sharks. Lye-soaked Cod. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
449
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Posted - 2013.02.28 19:06:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Only possible because of how awesome our subscribers are. :D
Less butt-kissing, more actual expansions......
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1873
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Posted - 2013.02.28 19:18:00 -
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Not to downplay the achievement or anything but,
I suspect it's a testimate to how well changing Chinese partners has worked for them. Didn't the 450k mark come with a comment about how the change in partnership has resulted in more people playing in China?
It sounds like serenity is blowing up.
It suspect TQ didn't see a big jump and is still sitting around 350k, and it's Serenity that's seeing the boom and has gone from a little under 100k a few months ago to almost 150k now.
They don't have retribution yet do they?
Serenity will be the reason that EVE hits a million combined subs.
I think you guys should provide the numbers for both worlds if you're going to give the total. You put a lot of emphasis on the "one world, one server" stuff, and I think it's only fair that you not lump us all together. It gives the wrong impression, and isn't really faithful to the spirit of EVE.
PS: Use the added revenue to get more devs to work on EVE please. Like say on expanding avatars so we can leave our ships. :) |
Bashier Brutalius
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.02.28 19:39:00 -
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Good Job CCP and I figure since I'm a noob I can be the 500K subscriber and I need lavish gifts. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7919
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Posted - 2013.02.28 20:07:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Not to downplay the achievement or anything but,
I suspect it's a testimate to how well changing Chinese partners has worked for them. Didn't the 450k mark come with a comment about how the change in partnership has resulted in more people playing in China?
It sounds like serenity is blowing up.
It suspect TQ didn't see a big jump and is still sitting around 350k, and it's Serenity that's seeing the boom and has gone from a little under 100k a few months ago to almost 150k now.
They don't have retribution yet do they?
Serenity will be the reason that EVE hits a million combined subs.
I think you guys should provide the numbers for both worlds if you're going to give the total. You put a lot of emphasis on the "one world, one server" stuff, and I think it's only fair that you not lump us all together. It gives the wrong impression, and isn't really faithful to the spirit of EVE.
PS: Use the added revenue to get more devs to work on EVE please. Like say on expanding avatars so we can leave our ships. :)
http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?10901-EVE-is-dying&p=724366&viewfull=1#post724366
"ah, yes if you take the weekly average then it should be comparable
So as of 21st february taken from http://eve-offline.net/ TQ weekly avg : ~36.800 SR weekly avg : ~7.800
so serenity is actually only about 17.5% of the whole population, or about 87.5K subscribers, this would put TQ at 412.500 subs"
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
1169
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Posted - 2013.02.28 20:27:00 -
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Jack bubu wrote:Sturmwolke wrote:Jack bubu wrote:Sturmwolke wrote:You can probably run a ballpark figure for TQ, based on the PCU avg of TQ vs Serenity (since those 500K reflects the numbers that are currently subscribed). It should correlate closely to the actual per server split which CCP isn't disclosing atm.
actually you cant, because TQ is spread over basicly the whole world (lots of timezones) while serenety is only spread over 2 (or 3?) timezones in china, so their subscription to PCU ratio is way different to TQ. Not when you average it over 24h or even weekly/monthly. You're after a reasonable ballpark figure, not accuracy to 3 decimal places. ah, yes if you take the weekly average then it should be comparable So as of 21st february taken from http://eve-offline.net/TQ weekly avg : ~36.800 SR weekly avg : ~7.800 so serenity is actually only about 17.5% of the whole population, or about 87.5K subscribers, this would put TQ at 412.500 subs :)
I will tell Ishtanchuk that you're using her method to estimate individual server population from global subscriptions and weekly average PCU data.
But then we still aren't at a point where i would bother mi contacts in the PROC so they try to get Tian City subscription data for Serenity. They still see me as a mostly harmless EVE freak... EVE is Serious Business: You shall not feel entitled to being allowed to play EVE just because you are paying it. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13051
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Posted - 2013.02.28 20:33:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:It suspect TQ didn't see a big jump and is still sitting around 350k, and it's Serenity that's seeing the boom and has gone from a little under 100k a few months ago to almost 150k now. Unless player behaviour has drastically changed for no apparent reason, the activity numbers wouldn't really support that suspicion.
If that were the case, chinese players have suddenly chosen not to play any more even though they're buying tons of accounts, and TQ players are suddenly playing a whole lot more without any corresponding increase in number of active accounts. Neither makes sense given how people have historically approached the game. Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7919
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Posted - 2013.02.28 20:36:00 -
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My anecdotal experience is that quite a few old corpies have returned to EVE over the last few weeks. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1875
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Posted - 2013.02.28 20:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Unless player behaviour has drastically changed for no apparent reason, the activity numbers wouldn't really support that suspicion.
If that were the case, chinese players have suddenly chosen not to play any more even though they're buying tons of accounts, and TQ players are suddenly playing a whole lot more without any corresponding increase in number of active accounts. Neither makes sense given how people have historically approached the game. I should clarify this again.
I"m not saying TQ hasn't gone up, I'm saying that Serenity is going up more.
Tiancity is a bigger partner then the previous guys are, and were in part chosen because they reach a larger market.
A part of the reason for the change was to get more people in china playing, Tiancity is doing that for CCP.
From what I've heard, from people who have access to Serenity, the server is throttled. More subscribers may not mean a higher PCU, because the server may not allow for more.
Obviously I'm just speculating, and like I said, I'm not trying to downplay the achievment.
I'm only speculating that Serenity would be the server to get the credit. It was kind of the point in getting Tiancity as a partner.
Do we have a chart for TQ's server activity from the month of december to now? |
Wu Jiaqiu
Heretic Army Atrocitas
141
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Posted - 2013.02.28 20:54:00 -
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EVE forever. This game will never die if CCP keeps up their OUTSTANDING customer-player relationship, and improvements to the game. Gooooooo CCP! |
Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
304
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Posted - 2013.02.28 20:56:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:My anecdotal experience is that quite a few old corpies have returned to EVE over the last few weeks.
My anecdotal experience is that I have returned ot EVE over the last few weeks.
My friends still won't play though, bastards. |
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