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Kisiar Akriana
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.02 07:04:00 -
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I'm fairly low (under 1.5 skill), and honestly i'm tired of L1 and L2 missions. I'm trying to grind my way the fastest up into a L3 or L4 ship, so i have a solid 'money' base, and can afford to loose one or two ships into the deep dark realm of pvp. I do not wish to run out of money and loose every ship that I have, or every penny and start at L1 missions again. Is irritating to see l2 missions giving anywhere from 60 to 120 K... yet everything costs millions.
A friend has promiced to help me get a Bc once I had worked out a solid build that would survive Amarr missions. So I've been working out playing around with EFT and browsing things like battleclinic.
I've come up with two idea's.
now I can't fit T2's, as i'm still upgrading EVERYTHING... just finishing engineering 5 in a few days.
I've kinda worked out a build for a harbing and and a prophecy. now i've been running an arbiter and enjoying it though drones have made L2 missions horribly easy.
Quote:[Prophecy, Prophecy alpha]
Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Prototype Armor EM Hardener I Prototype Armor Thermic Hardener I Drone Damage Amplifier I
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I F-a10 Buffer Capacitor Regenerator Tracking Computer I
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Ultraviolet M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Ultraviolet M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Ultraviolet M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Ultraviolet M Drone Link Augmentor I Upgraded 'Malkuth' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Nova Heavy Assault Missile [Empty High slot]
[Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot]
Hobgoblin I x5 Hammerhead I x5
is the prophecy, relying Heavily on the drones todeal with everything, the guns only there to try and distract and aid the drones against cruisers etc.
Now, I also enjoyed running a blaster coercer (before it met its fate in the hands of the epic story arc). So I was looking at the harbinger as well.
Quote: [Harbinger, alpha
Armor EM Hardener I Armor EM Hardener I Armor Thermic Hardener I Armor Thermic Hardener I Medium Armor Repairer I Tracking Enhancer I
Cap Recharger I Cap Recharger I Cap Recharger I 10MN Afterburner I
Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Focused Modulated Medium Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M [Empty High slot]
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin I x5
I'm just wondering which is more viable for solo missioning? or if anyone has any suggestions. The harbinger i've got like 100 cpu left and 800 grid.
the prophecy, i've got... .1 grid left, and 300 grid left. I've thought of throwing rigs on to reduce the cpu cost of the energy weapons to let me do other things. |
xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.03.02 07:24:00 -
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I assume you understand the Switch out hardeners for the missions?
If so both fits seem pretty solid for your missions. I like what the harb was but havent played with what it is now. In saying that you cant trust drone dps with rats aggroswitching.
Take the proph pick drones and rapid light missiles(No cap always applies some damage) or lasers (uses cap)
I prefer to use the missiles in this fit and swap your tracking computer for a cap booster or more cap recharge. That way you can rep longer. Also with the rigs i would go Tank rigs(the nanobot injector and whatever the other one is)
The harby needs at least 2 heat sinks and a tracking enhancer to effectively apply dps. (IMHO)
Once you decide one way or the other i suggest skilling up for t2 as fast as possible. |
Kisiar Akriana
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.02 07:37:00 -
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yeah i've been at this game for... very short time and my time designing fits are even shorter. so far i've tried fitting 3 ships, and each time i've been laughed not only out of the house but across the street to boot.
This is my first time i've actually make something 'viable' I just want people to try and improve me. |
Nalha Saldana
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2013.03.02 08:18:00 -
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I would suggest doing soemthing like this with the harby
[Harbinger, noob pve] Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Experimental Armor EM Hardener I Experimental Armor Thermic Hardener I Experimental Armor Thermic Hardener I Heat Sink I Heat Sink I
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Drone Link Augmentor I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
Hobgoblin I x5 Hammerhead I x5
It should be quite easy to get cap stable and doesnt need much skills at all. If you're not cap stable in it train: Energy systems operations Energy management Afterburner Fuel conservation Controlled bursts to 3 at least. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
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Posted - 2013.03.02 09:54:00 -
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For starting L3s, I'd suggest dual-rep fits. The second repper's not for normal use, just for those moments when you realise you're in over your head. As skills improve (player and character), you'll have fewer of those and drop the second armour rep. |
Mac Tir
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.02 12:23:00 -
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Bear in mind that you'll be TD'd to hell and back in Amarr space,so a missile fit prophecy is probably a better bet. I say this as someone with perfect skills for medium laser; I had trouble getting past some level 2 missions since the npc buff. I'm thinking about running matari missions from now on. As ever, YMMV. |
Kisiar Akriana
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.02 13:15:00 -
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ok i hate to bite. TD'ed? |
Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
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Posted - 2013.03.02 13:29:00 -
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Kisiar Akriana wrote:ok i hate to bite. TD'ed? Tracking Disruption = TD'ed; Sansha rats use TD as a form of e-war it will reduce the effective range of turrets to nothing and the tracking speed will get reduced to the point where the only thing you can hit is structures. Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..) |
Kisiar Akriana
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.02 13:38:00 -
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ah, ok. Yeah i've been running my arbi in l2's as a 'slink in and let the drones eat from a distance' so far... the whole point behind the guns wasn't really for dps it was more 'look i'm shooting, pay attention to me' :D
Think i'm going to stay as a drone boat (yay prophecy)... and just long distance pound stuff till i start really focusing on guns (yeah a long time from now :D) so many skills to train... i'll sick drones on them until then.
now to figure out what rigs to throw on the prophecy.
and what i can fit into the extra high without pushing my cpu overload. |
Nalha Saldana
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
690
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Posted - 2013.03.02 19:42:00 -
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Something like this maybe?
[Prophecy, Nab] Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Experimental Armor Thermic Hardener I Experimental Armor Thermic Hardener I Experimental Armor EM Hardener I
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Drone Navigation Computer I
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile Drone Link Augmentor I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerhead I x5 Hammerhead I x10 Hobgoblin I x15
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Inkarr Hashur
Sacrificial Lambs
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Posted - 2013.03.02 20:20:00 -
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Mac Tir wrote:Bear in mind that you'll be TD'd to hell and back in Amarr space,so a missile fit prophecy is probably a better bet. I say this as someone with perfect skills for medium laser; I had trouble getting past some level 2 missions since the npc buff. I'm thinking about running matari missions from now on. As ever, YMMV.
Doubtful. Proph only gets 4 unbonused missile launchers. Drones have a travel time and need to be recalled. Unless L3 missions have TD on the level of L4 missions do, I can't see it being a superior choice for this. |
Chris Slayter
Cypher Mortalis Aureus Alae
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Posted - 2013.03.03 00:36:00 -
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Inkarr Hashur wrote: Doubtful. Proph only gets 4 unbonused missile launchers. Drones have a travel time and need to be recalled. Unless L3 missions have TD on the level of L4 missions do, I can't see it being a superior choice for this.
Agreed. A Harbinger will be much more effecient most of the time and once there is TD, you still have drones + AB to close the gap. Also, the new AI mechanics make it a lot harder to manage drones so they don't get destroyed. I'd recommend following loadout:
[Harbinger, PvE] Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
Cap Recharger II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Auto Targeting System II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
The utility high can be anything you prefer: tractorbeam, dronelink, salvager or empty when you're short of cpu. Change hardeners to the mission's damage profile. I'd also recommend to have the skills to at least fit t2 tank, otherwise you will probably have a hard time and end up being overwhelmed. Next on your list should be t2 pulse lasers and t2 drones. The latter you will find quite handy when jumping to the BS-tier. However... at the end of the day it's just a game and you are free to pick whatever ship you like best. Fly safe o7 |
Termy Rockling
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.03 01:28:00 -
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If you arent friends with "meta" items, check them out, you should almost always use the higher level metaitems instead basic tech1 modules. |
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