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Angelique Duchemin
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:32:00 -
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I mean. You can't just throw a greeting at someone or start a casual conversation.
It's always "Requesting permission to engage in conversation" And then the conversation is set up in an awkward manner. And I feel like I have to bring up something important now because I forced the other person to stop dead in their tracks and accept popups and chat requests.
And the person has to catch the conversation too. Perhaps they're alt-tabbed or at the bathroom. They can't catch the message and then respond when they get back.
It's like you have to file a permit just to say hi to friend that logs into the game.
I suppose you can send letters but that's even more involved and less personal. Does anyone know a good website to upload loudouts too that doesn't try to sell me plexes in between every line? |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1020
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:34:00 -
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Just set up a chat channel and invite your friends in. Then you can chew their ears (eyes) off whenever they are around. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |
St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1166
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:35:00 -
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I joined an MMO just so that I can be anti-social and play alone and not chat to other people! |
Angelique Duchemin
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:36:00 -
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I do want to chew a lot of ears but my friends span too many conflicts, professions and ideologies. Having them all in one chat would be awkward to a legendary degree Does anyone know a good website to upload loudouts too that doesn't try to sell me plexes in between every line? |
Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
335
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:51:00 -
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I've gotten used to it now, but I remember being absolutely baffled when I first started playing that Eve had a different chat window for every channel. And no tells/whispers as such. |
Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:54:00 -
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Stealth request to allow for direct scam spamming.
I rather like the protection the direct chat system provides. You can use local when trying to force people to talk to you. No need to ram it into their private chat. |
Cannibal Kane
The African Terrorist
1487
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:54:00 -
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Well.... if they are your friends... request them to add you with standings/watchlist and you do the same.
So when they convo you there is no "do you Accept" it just opens the chat.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
baltec1
Bat Country
5487
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:54:00 -
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Make a corp. Make a chat channel for everyone to join. Or just use local. |
TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
466
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Posted - 2013.03.05 14:28:00 -
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Doesn't it forgo that if you both have each other in contacts and set + ?
I seem to get a lot of conversations that just start rather than popups, that or I'm just impervious to them these days..... or I counter it by starting most conversations with "alrightcockgobbler" |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1840
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Posted - 2013.03.05 15:04:00 -
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I really can't see a way to allow this to work without giving everyone the potential to just chat spam anyone they feel like; but then again, you can just add all the people you want to talk to, to your friends list - and you to theirs.
That lets you open a chat directly, without opening the requesting permission dialog, no ? ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Kane Alvo
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
44
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Posted - 2013.03.05 15:08:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:I really can't see a way to allow this to work without giving everyone the potential to just chat spam anyone they feel like; but then again, you can just add all the people you want to talk to, to your friends list - and you to theirs.
That lets you open a chat directly, without opening the requesting permission dialog, no ?
This.
The system is a bit ackward, but it works for your own protection. I imagine that pm/whisper were implemented, it would only be a matter of time before the Jita scammers figure out how to start sending out mass spam. Caldari Militia -áGÿ£G£¬GÿP |
Angelique Duchemin
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2013.03.05 15:09:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:I really can't see a way to allow this to work without giving everyone the potential to just chat spam anyone they feel like
Has that been a major problem?
I have played a lot of games in my time and I have never found myself undermined by someone's ability to talk to me.
Does anyone know a good website to upload loudouts too that doesn't try to sell me plexes in between every line? |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1157
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Posted - 2013.03.05 15:14:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:ISD Suvetar wrote:I really can't see a way to allow this to work without giving everyone the potential to just chat spam anyone they feel like Has that been a major problem? I have played a lot of games in my time and I have never found myself undermined by someone's ability to talk to me.
And if you follow the few steps that have been repeatedly given to you, you can still continue to play while not feeling undermined. |
TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
467
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Posted - 2013.03.05 15:24:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:ISD Suvetar wrote:I really can't see a way to allow this to work without giving everyone the potential to just chat spam anyone they feel like Has that been a major problem? I have played a lot of games in my time and I have never found myself undermined by someone's ability to talk to me.
I think you're underestimating eve players ability to be erm.... special little snowflakes of the MMO universe |
BoBoZoBo
Divine Beasts Nite's Reign
215
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Posted - 2013.03.05 15:41:00 -
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Stop apologizing for yourself.
Fixed. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
luZk
x13 Whores in space
155
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Posted - 2013.03.05 15:43:00 -
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Amarr local is always very friendly. You should go there for chatting. "Statistics show that only ~50% of the players run dx11-ready systems" --áCCP Mankiller |
Angelique Duchemin
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2013.03.05 15:58:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:ISD Suvetar wrote:I really can't see a way to allow this to work without giving everyone the potential to just chat spam anyone they feel like Has that been a major problem? I have played a lot of games in my time and I have never found myself undermined by someone's ability to talk to me. I think you're underestimating eve players ability to be erm.... special little snowflakes of the MMO universe
You may very well be right.
luZk wrote:Amarr local is always very friendly. You should go there for chatting.
A portrait award well earned.
Does anyone know a good website to upload loudouts too that doesn't try to sell me plexes in between every line? |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1202
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:08:00 -
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I'm sure there are plenty of public chat rooms on TS or one of those other group thingies... Take a moment and actually look. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3688
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:14:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:ISD Suvetar wrote:I really can't see a way to allow this to work without giving everyone the potential to just chat spam anyone they feel like Has that been a major problem? I have played a lot of games in my time and I have never found myself undermined by someone's ability to talk to me. Yes, constantly.
Convo spam is used as a lag inducing weapon even with the restrictions we currently have. Advertisement/Scam spam has been a never ending issue in local and EvE mail, usually in trade hubs but elsewhere as well.
I understand your desire to be social, but in a highly competitive game like this certain safe guards must be implimented. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
baltec1
Bat Country
5490
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:17:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:ISD Suvetar wrote:I really can't see a way to allow this to work without giving everyone the potential to just chat spam anyone they feel like Has that been a major problem? I have played a lot of games in my time and I have never found myself undermined by someone's ability to talk to me.
There used to be a tactic called the chat bomb. It was kind of like a form of E-War that large fleets used on enemy FC to cripple them in a fight. CCP banned its use the other year. |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3689
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Posted - 2013.03.05 16:18:00 -
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For clarification concerning convo spam, what do you think happens if you are about to enter combat (or simply about to be attacked out of the blue) and 10 convo's come into your client at once?
Now how about 50?
Or 500?
The sheer scale of interaction possible in EvE has it's own special issues. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2829
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:15:00 -
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Quote:And then the conversation is set up in an awkward manner. That's an issue within yourself.
Quote:And I feel like I have to bring up something Proof of the above.
Quote:They can't catch the message and then respond when they get back. If he doesn't accept your convo or it's on Auto-accept (you're blue to him), simply send a mail.
Quote:It's like you have to file a permit just to say hi to friend that logs into the game. If it's an actual friend, he probably blue'd you, so no request-window pops up for him.
Mails usually are the safest bet to make sure that the other person isn't too occupied. You'll notice that by his action of replying. If you are an really awkward person, you could simply ask if you are allowed / it's a good time to convo him.
From your words, you sound rather shy. |
Angelique Duchemin
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
108
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:23:00 -
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Alright so maybe the problem is with me. I suppose I should change it to wishing that it was more feasible to have a more casual chat system.
The current system is after all created by people with an infinitely broader perspective of the situation as a whole than I have. Does anyone know a good website to upload loudouts too that doesn't try to sell me plexes in between every line? |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2829
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:25:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Alright so maybe the problem is with me. I suppose I should change it to wishing that it was more feasible to have a more casual chat system.
The current system is after all created by people with an infinitely broader perspective of the situation as a whole than I have. It's all good. Just keep doing and your shyness will go away. *hugs*
:) |
Angelique Duchemin
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
108
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:28:00 -
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Well this turned into a real pathetic display. Let's hurry up and get it to page 2 before anyone else has time to view it. Does anyone know a good website to upload loudouts too that doesn't try to sell me plexes in between every line? |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2829
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:30:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Well this turned into quite a pathetic display. Let's hurry up and get it to page 2 before anyone else has time to view it. This is page two already. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1162
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:36:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:Well this turned into quite a pathetic display. Let's hurry up and get it to page 2 before anyone else has time to view it. This is page two already.
I concur |
Angelique Duchemin
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:37:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:Well this turned into quite a pathetic display. Let's hurry up and get it to page 2 before anyone else has time to view it. This is page two already.
Eve General page 2.
Does anyone know a good website to upload loudouts too that doesn't try to sell me plexes in between every line? |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2829
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:42:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:I concur Thank you, kind sir. ^_^
Angelique Duchemin wrote:Eve General page 2. You're not helping yourself. xD |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2829
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:42:00 -
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doublepost |
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