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BEPOHNKA
Legions Force
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:19:00 -
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Roles I think it could fill: Dedicated anti-capital DPS POS Bashing? Anti-Triage platform? Dedicated anti-Super capital DPS Capital Command / Ship Flagship?
Add T2 dreads along the lines of capital E-war, Capital HACS, capital Interdictors etc for supercapital lockdown.
What do you think, only matter of time before CCP adds more of them... capitals that is.... |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1192
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:22:00 -
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BEPOHNKA wrote:Roles I think it could fill: Dedicated anti-capital DPS POS Bashing? Anti-Triage platform? Dedicated anti-Super capital DPS Capital Command / Ship Flagship?
Add T2 dreads along the lines of capital E-war, Capital HACS, capital Interdictors etc for supercapital lockdown.
What do you think, only matter of time before CCP adds more of them... capitals that is....
Actually, I think it's just the opposite. Given the substantial number of nerfs that have been done to them over the years, I think CCP probably regrets introducing them at all. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. Twitter --á@DeVeldrin |
Tialano Utrigas
Critical Mass Inc. Nexus Fleet
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:24:00 -
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You have just specified pretty much to the letter what is on a Dread pilots job description and they do a pretty darn good job at it (especially once you get T2 Siege).
I dont think we need any more Supers to unbalance the capital escalations. |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:25:00 -
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BEPOHNKA wrote: Dedicated anti-capital DPS POS Bashing?.
If these two roles aren't filled then what are dreads up to these days? Ratting?
What do you shot with a dread? We miss you Saede. |
monkfish2345
D'reg The Methodical Alliance
33
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:32:00 -
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the complete opposite of "nice to have"
Cap ships are already somewhat unbalanced because the larger alliances have the ability to field so many. introducing more overpowered super-ships to the field will just encourage the major powers to blob with them instead.
once all of the rebalancing is completed everyone will be in a far better position to assess what if any new ships would be welcome.
right now i look forward to a situation where capitals are only effective against other caps. then maybe we will see the game going back towards the days where fleets consisted of more than 1 ship type, be it drakes or supers |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
222
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:49:00 -
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Really don't think theres a need for a dedicated anti-triage platform, dealing with triage carriers is often a catalyst for dynamic gameplay (or you can just blob them with dreads or bhaalgorns) but its often what kicks off a good fight. |
Namdor
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:52:00 -
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This ship already exists.
Military experts are calling it a "Dreadnought". |
Hannah Flex
laissez-faire economics
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:55:00 -
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The Moros is a super dreadnought
/thread |
Namdor
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:59:00 -
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But seriously, the T2 design philosophy is role based.
You're just describing a bigger, better dreadnought that does everything a dreadnought does, but better.
It would be like saying, "How about a T2 SUPERfreighter with a 2 million m^3 cargo hold?"
T2s are supposed to be qualitatively differentiated from their T1 counterparts. |
Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:03:00 -
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SUPERCCPLOLROFL
Done... did I win? |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:04:00 -
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BEPOHNKA wrote:Roles I think it could fill: Dedicated anti-capital DPS POS Bashing? Anti-Triage platform? Dedicated anti-Super capital DPS Capital Command / Ship Flagship?
*cough* Titan *cough* Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Sala Kyss
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:06:00 -
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hahaha he literally just described a titan as a super dread
they exist already heh |
Jake Rivers
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:06:00 -
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Get a Moros, best DPS out there!
http://i.imgur.com/4lsdR63.png Senex Legio Recruiter Team |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:08:00 -
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monkfish2345 wrote: Cap ships are already somewhat unbalanced because the larger alliances have the ability to field so many. introducing more overpowered super-ships to the field will just encourage the major powers to blob with them instead.
That doesn't make the ship itself unbalanced, it simply makes the alliances unbalanced and its understandably so. Larger alliances shouldn't be negatively impacted because other groups either can't or refuse to meet to the same standards in size and structure that they currently adhere to. |
Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:09:00 -
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Last I checked Titans filled the position of "Super Dreads" |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:09:00 -
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It's not even cap stable...
We miss you Saede. |
Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:10:00 -
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BEPOHNKA wrote:
Dedicated anti-Super capital DPS
your solution to the number of super caps is to add another super cap that fills the roles a titan (an already existing super cap) fills? CCP don't make us wait another decade for a drone overhaul; DRONE OVERHAUL NOW! |
Jake Rivers
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
159
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:17:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:It's not even cap stable...
Senex Legio Recruiter Team |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:29:00 -
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OK my idea is
that five Rokhs can combine into a dreadnought |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:42:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:OK my idea is that five Rokhs can combine into a dreadnought
can we name it optimus prime? Want miners to move from high sec to null sec? Then give them a reason to join player corps, and stop null sec grav sites being worth less isk/hour than high sec asteroid belts. Really isn't difficult. |
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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
626
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:49:00 -
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They need to allow Black Ops to have some sort of Black Ops bubbler. That way, many more supercaps would die. |
Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:58:00 -
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Instead of creating more ships for the sole purpose of structure grinding, I would prefer we remove structure grinding. Many good ideas exist in F&I board. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1279
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Posted - 2013.03.18 17:01:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:OK my idea is that five Rokhs can combine into a dreadnought can we name it optimus prime?
If you want but I think that Voltron would a more fitting name for it. |
Tiberius StarGazer
StarGazer Heavy Industries And Exploration
308
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Posted - 2013.03.18 17:09:00 -
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While I also desire new ships, there are a number of things I desire more first.
But, seing as dreds already do all the roles you specified pretty well, and carriers are massive logistic ships, what unique role could they fill? I can't think of one. |
marVLs
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Posted - 2013.03.18 17:35:00 -
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Maybe change current Dreads and add T2/pirate wariants.
Current dreads - nerf siege (about 3k DPS, boost tracking/agility so there is no big gap between BS and caps (and add mini carriers with main drone purpose - both can use LS, null gates) T2/pirate wariants (biiigger ships) - like current dreads but can't lock anything smaller than caps + ideal for structures (new mechanic to destroying structures)
But it's bad quick dream |
Primary This Rifter
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.03.18 17:36:00 -
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It's 2013 already Wai u still show passive modules Yes, I'm an alt. Congratulations. |
BEPOHNKA
Legions Force
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Posted - 2013.03.18 17:41:00 -
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Thanks for the feedback but to care this up, I know many of you see a titan in the same role but why are they in two different ship class one class is name "titan" and other "Dreadnought" what they both fill the same shoe? why is this? Can we give a titan other role?
Super Dead fill the current half load of a titan and give the titan something else? |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2013.03.18 17:45:00 -
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Just nerf titans/supers and place them as Tier 2 dreads/carriers. No need for more caps. Don't Vote for Malcanis
New Eden Training Simulation. -áIdea to improve NPE. |
Primary This Rifter
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.18 17:46:00 -
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BEPOHNKA wrote:Thanks for the feedback but to care this up, I know many of you see a titan in the same role but why are they in two different ship class one class is name "titan" and other "Dreadnought" what they both fill the same shoe? why is this? Can we give a titan other role?
Super Dead fill the current half load of a titan and give the titan something else? You should probably learn what these ships actually do before you start trying to change their roles or make new ones.
Brooks Puuntai wrote:Just nerf titans/supers and place them as Tier 2 dreads/carriers. No need for more caps. Titans and supers don't need a nerf. Yes, I'm an alt. Congratulations. |
BEPOHNKA
Legions Force
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Posted - 2013.03.18 17:47:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Just nerf titans/supers and place them as Tier 2 dreads/carriers. No need for more caps.
nice this would really work why not! could be fun, but how would you replace the cost already in place for them? keep the build cost the same or not?
I feel once any more changes done to the supers/ carrier should effect only new ones built not old ones... grandfather them in? |
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