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Anya Stark
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Posted - 2003.07.24 18:25:00 -
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I'm just writing this note on the off chance that there may be someone else out there starting to wonder whether they have a problem.
I've been played EVE for awhile now (8 days after release I think), and have been finding that as I get more successful in the game I play more and more, that I play it even if it gets in the way of meals, work and even my marriage. I check my EVE messages several times a day, but haven't read my regular e-mail in a week, and don't think I've called or written a friend who doesn't play EVE in at least that long. BUying the second account probably wasn't a good sign either, but I think I really realized I had a problem when I noticed that I was always grumpy unless I was playing EVE, and was ****ed off if work, my wife or anything else got in the way of a mining run, trade run or pirate hunting. I'd also be checking the boards or calling friends for in-game updates while I should have been working, and I really can't afford to lost my job....
I'm usually not an especially grumpy or nasty person, but I been progressively less nice to be around in RL for at least the last couple of weeks and when I thought about it, it was usually because I wanted to be playing the game. The shorter temper helped to tip me off too.
As a professional social worker, I've got a lot of experience working with people addicted to alcohol, drugs, gambling, etc. so I would have thought I would have seen the signs earlier, but I didn't. Now I know I need to unplug entirely.
For all you folks that can play a bit when you have some spare time, without it getting in the way of your Real Life, enjoy the game. For those of you that privately need to admit that you are online more than you are offline and it's getting in the way of your life, I suggest you try to unplug from EVE and any other MMPOLGs for a full month. See if you can handle it without going into withdrawl. If you are in withdrawl, trust me, you should never go back and find a less addictive hobby.
All the best folks. I'm not just leaving EVE, I'm not ever going to play another persistent online game again. I know I can't handle it.
Stark.
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Mojack
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Posted - 2003.07.24 18:38:00 -
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hmmm, just thought if this is meant honestly or if its just a joke.
however, never say "never" :)
I just stopped smoking after 15 years non-stop smoking. The thing what did it very easy to stop was a lil self-psycho trick. The day I stopped I was NOT claiming that I am stopping forever, and never ever will touch a cig. Cool how damn fine it works. I dont feel lik light myself a cig, and I dont feel uncomfortable and I dont have a need to smoke...just because I did not******my own mind and told to myself "never ever...." I let myself the freedom to light a cig whenever I want..... well, this trick works for me...I bet it wont work for other smokers..
however, I read such post often, and really saw people who where playing 16 hours a day suddenly disappear as they pulled the plug. After 2 months they returned, tough :)
regards
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Mojack
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Posted - 2003.07.24 18:40:00 -
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I forgot to add:
all the best for your RL. no matter if your post is a joke or not. I know for my own experience how my girl friend tought me to spend LESS time online and more time offline (...with her - uh oh, sex can be fun, too)
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Setec
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Posted - 2003.07.24 18:40:00 -
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Wow... an actual intelligent "I'm quitting" post.
Personally I'm okay with playing lots of Eve as long as it doesn't get in the way of my trout fishing. ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |
Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.07.24 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Muaddid on 24/07/2003 18:44:16 Scary that someone leaves like that... but it has to be said..
Can i have your stuff ? :P
seriously tho if ur quitting, any donation to Muaddid is appreciated
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Takania Astral
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Posted - 2003.07.24 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Takania Astral on 24/07/2003 18:47:02 Edited by: Takania Astral on 24/07/2003 18:45:43 NOBODY LEAVES EVE, NOBODY. YOU UNDERSTAND. YOU CANT JUST QUIT YOUR MASTER. HEY WHERE YOU GOING COME BACK, I SAID YOU CANT LEAVE DAMM ANOTHER QUITER
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Irnaii
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Posted - 2003.07.24 18:58:00 -
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to be honest, i played like hell the first two month. and almost had no rl then. but then i stopped for about a week, and it was np at all. had to do some serious rl stuff and now i got some more time for eve again the next days and i decided i will play more again. anya, why dont u just try to unplug for a week or two, and then try to come back and play for a regular schedule, like 2hrs a day or even 2hrs every 2 or 3 days? if u cant handle this, then u should quit eve totally - but trust me, it works. u just have to be strong. and i mean this seriously, not joking at all. hope u get things straight again - best wishes, irnaii
Irnaii Personnel Manager NERD Inc.
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2003.07.24 19:12:00 -
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I do not have a problem, I can quit anytime I want!
..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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IZON
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Posted - 2003.07.24 19:16:00 -
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Problem *twitch* what problem?
"...master! there's a guy in the south village called IZON, he is a Ninja!" |
Graah
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Posted - 2003.07.24 19:26:00 -
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Everyone has their 'escapes'. It's when your 'escape' or 'hobby' reaches the point where it interferes with the rest of your life, primarily the things with lasting value, that you need to stand back and take an objective view.
I'm glad to see someone leaving to focus more on their real life if they feel it's the best thing. I'm sure some people may feel this is an extreme action, but I assure you, there are other people who WON'T be quitting and their lives/work/relationships WILL suffer from it. It's not like it's a new phenomenon.
Hopefully this serves as a good example for those who really DO need to step away.
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Rhonstet
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Posted - 2003.07.24 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Rhonstet on 24/07/2003 19:47:03 For some people, MMOGs are simply too engrossing. The varied gameplay, mixed with a social aspect and a persistant world, creates one hell of an electronic drug. Indeed, I can find more then a few stories of people who have slipped totally into depression over MMORPG addictions, some of them very personal and witnessed firsthand.
With Eve, the chance of addiction is remarkably high: its a game that requires work to build up a fortune, where gameplay requires intermittent attention (mining, high-sec trading) to total vigilance (piracy, ninja-mining, pirate-hunting). Add to this that the most successful players are on a near-daily basis, and its easy to see why people spend all their time playing.
Even the authors admit the game is addictive. The fact that Eve is addictive was actually used on the box as a marketing ploy, and is one of the reasons I picked the game up.
Having once dealt with a wicked Diablo addiction myself several years ago when I was far more impressionable and bored, I can say without hesistation that anyone who feels the push of addiction needs to reevaluate their role ingame. Don't forget: you're not playing the game to earn that next million ISK: you're playing the game to have fun. The Monkeysphere |
Drahcir
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Posted - 2003.07.24 19:52:00 -
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I know the person playing anya and was working on a mining op when it was announced they he was quitting.
It was a little bit of Shawk an AWE but was accepted.
The original poster is not joking. They are very serious. Although the dicision was made just last night. Time will tell.
Its easy to say "I can Handle it" or "I can quit anytime". its totally different to actualy do it. Some people can't control how long they play or drink or what ever their addiction is. People handle things differently. Some have to just stop completely.
I respect this person's decision and has reset their priorities. In fact I commend them for it.
In the past month that I have know Anya we have become good friends. I am saddened that Anya has chosen to leave but I understand why and what matters is that this decision works for Anya.
Muaddid, sorry mate Anya was part of a corp and thos possesions will be utilized by the corp as they feel necessary.
Good luck Anya and hope things get back on the right track for ya.
Your Friend
Drahcir CEO - Enron Enery Consortium |
Endureth
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Posted - 2003.07.24 19:56:00 -
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Yes, there is a warning on the box.
Warning! Your new life may be too addictive to leave.
So CCP covered there ass in that respect :)
-E
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Kash
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Posted - 2003.07.24 19:59:00 -
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"Personally I'm okay with playing lots of Eve as long as it doesn't get in the way of my trout fishing."
Is that how you met your wife setec?
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.24 20:24:00 -
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Anya Stark, I am a lifetime addict to several things and I can understand your decision perfectly. My admiration for you. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Yaden
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Posted - 2003.07.24 21:28:00 -
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i had the exact same problem,you should have seen the looks my g/f got when she needed the computer for a little while i even took a few sick days from work for eve :) but i knew that was only the begining after a while RL would get more interessting again like always and now i dont play more then a hour a day and i am fine with it.
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AngelusUK
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Posted - 2003.07.24 22:42:00 -
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Who cares, we'll all be dead in a 100 years.
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Wil Rufus
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Posted - 2003.07.25 02:57:00 -
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I'm currently doing a degree in psychology, and have been thinking of doing a paper on the subject of addiction to this type of game, or something like that. Does anybody know if there has been any real life research done into this? And if so give me a pointer to where to find it. Thanks
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Thano
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Posted - 2003.07.25 03:32:00 -
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eve? addictive? NOOOO your lieing :P actualy i have been hopelessly addicted to eve since i started playing back in beta 6 i remember i whent psycho during the time between the end of beta and the US release i had trouble sleeping for 3 days it was realy bad sometimes i consider quiting but then i end up haveing to load up the game and start playing just thinking about it. kinda like when you see an anti smoking ad and you have the urge to spark up a smoke...
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M0RPHEUS
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Posted - 2003.07.25 04:39:00 -
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lol yeah every time i see those "?" anti-smoking commercials i end up buying another pack :P i dont think those help anyone...do they? Ask me nicely and I won't pod you... |
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Nemi Lethal
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Posted - 2003.07.25 05:30:00 -
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gqllfm
can i have your stuff?
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Nemi Lethal
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Posted - 2003.07.25 05:31:00 -
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Wil Rufus
They did a big psycho analysis of Everquest, i think it was called project blue something serch for it. basicly it was a break down of online games and effects and the profile of the people who play them.
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Lexington Cabot
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Posted - 2003.07.25 05:35:00 -
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You could try getting everyone you know to play Eve!!
Then you all could spend quality time together and everyone is happy.
But yet they will tell YOU to quit!! Tell them, hey everyone else needs to play Eve then it will all be fine and dandy :)
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Chagidiel
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Posted - 2003.07.25 06:25:00 -
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I think (though not sure) I heard there were a research done about internet addiction.
I think it was made in Sweden; G÷teborgs universitet.
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Bas Rutten
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Posted - 2003.07.25 06:48:00 -
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Chagidiel, in deed there was, I watched a documentation on TV recently. Actually, no human being can say from him/herself that he/she would never be in danger to be addicted by anything - in fact, denying that possibility might even turn out to be a mistake. There are so many things that can turn into drugs for people besides the actual known soft and hard drugs ... for sure video games for various reasons, internet in general, work (a serious issue as well), sex (might sound funny for immature ppl only) and loads of other things that may not even bother someone who doesn¦t care for that specific "drug". So it¦s a wise move to find out about one¦s self addiction and taking care of it, in this case, leaving Eve for the better of it. And truth be known, no one gets rid of an addiction once he/she is clean ... it is always there. I know that very well cause I am close to an alcoholic ... been through some hard times with that person already. ____________________________________
Deny the Urge - brutal Death from Germoney
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Misato Warwick
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Posted - 2003.07.25 11:00:00 -
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accepting that you may have a problem or addiction is the first step to solve it.
anya, i wish you all the best and have fun in every second of your life!
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Bogusheadbox
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Posted - 2003.07.25 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: Bogusheadbox on 25/07/2003 11:11:29 Call me close minded. but i dont't understand posts like the original one. I can appreciate it - but just don't understand it.
When money is tight and i need to save instead of hunting women and drinking until the sun comes up. I will stay home have dinner and a chat with my mates and then play eve until i want to go to sleep.
Other times, when i have dates, G/F, sometimes both (oooh ERR), gym, sports, mates etc. then eve will get very little attention. Bloody hell, eve is only a game !!!!! I have a life but still like to play eve. It is there to give me something to do when i am bored or have spare time on my hands.
What is so hard in that?? I would rather snog a bird or play "hide the one eyed junket pumper" than play eve. and i would rather play eve rather than sitting in the lounge room watching soaps.
Easy
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Chagidiel
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Posted - 2003.07.25 11:27:00 -
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bogus: I reccon you have hard understand smokers, alcoholics, drugaddictids as well.
Addiction is when something gives you such an stimuli that you can not cease doing it. When that you are addicted to comes out of your own control. Since our bodies are one mean drugfactory, its quite easy to become addicted to the stimuli produced in our own bodies. That is, come addicted to feelings and such things, which makes a lot hormones rushing through our bodies.
Hence, you can come addicted to suspense, joy and so on, which is way you also can become addicted to training, internet, games and so on.
I really hope you one day will grow to understand, that addiction is not about "just quitting" but rather much more complex then so, and if you youre self hasnt been a victim of addiction, then consider youre self lucky, and remember, its quite easy to become one.
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Chagidiel
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Posted - 2003.07.25 11:30:00 -
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...feel I should ad, that this is biologists theories atm (since thats what I am, and what I know about) but I understand that there are some hypothesis during research now, from psychologists around the world. Those I unfortunally dont know so much about.
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Bogusheadbox
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Posted - 2003.07.25 11:34:00 -
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True. Though i have no (known) addicictions, and that is the reason for me not understanding the original post. I am quite able to recognise that i can't fully appreciate what it is like to be in that situation.
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