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Miss MoneyPenny Boma
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:38:00 -
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I've read various threads about re-allocation of skills, the purchase of SP etc... This thread isn't related to any of that.
What I'm requesting is the ability to remove skills.
My 3 characters all have some dubious skills trained from when I was a new player. I would like the ability to be able to remove them.
I'm not asking for SP re-inbursement, I'm not asking for a high five, I'm not asking for ANYTHING in return. I'd just like to be able to tidy up some messy skills that I never use by pressing a delete button.
I know that the game code now has the ability to facilitate this and enabling pilots to remove skills would not give any advantage to any pilot over anyone else.
Can you make this so?
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Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:47:00 -
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Every action has its consequences, deal with it... I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner. Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |
Miss MoneyPenny Boma
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:49:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Every action has its consequences, deal with it...
Thanks for the bump, but seriously you posted to show you're mad about something? Relax, take a deep breath. |
Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:50:00 -
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Not a bad idea. It does give the very slight advantage of lowering the cost of an SP bloated clone, but high clone costs are a seperate issue entirely. |
Miss MoneyPenny Boma
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:52:00 -
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Ahh that's very true Tak and I didn't think of that, my idea is in to no way gain a benefit, so yeah that could be a slight problem. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:54:00 -
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Miss MoneyPenny Boma wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Every action has its consequences, deal with it... Thanks for the bump, but seriously you posted to show you're mad about something? Relax, take a deep breath. This is a game that has consequences to every action you take, this is no different...
Thanks for confusing that with me being mad at something... I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner. Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |
Miss MoneyPenny Boma
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:55:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Miss MoneyPenny Boma wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Every action has its consequences, deal with it... Thanks for the bump, but seriously you posted to show you're mad about something? Relax, take a deep breath. This is a game that has consequences to every action you take, this is no different... Thanks for confusing that with me being mad at something...
Shoo, go be non-productive in another thread. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:56:00 -
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This reminds me of Monk. No offense intended, honestly.
A few questions: Does it annoy you a lot? Do you have the need to have everything all tidy and clean, so much that you freak out if it isnt? Does everything have to always be in its place? Do you have carpets? Do you clean up often? Do pictureframes annoy you, if they arent exactly horizontal?
Thank you for your answers.
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Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:57:00 -
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Miss MoneyPenny Boma wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Miss MoneyPenny Boma wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Every action has its consequences, deal with it... Thanks for the bump, but seriously you posted to show you're mad about something? Relax, take a deep breath. This is a game that has consequences to every action you take, this is no different... Thanks for confusing that with me being mad at something... Shoo, go be non-productive in another thread. I'm being productive in a non-productive thread... I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner. Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |
Miss MoneyPenny Boma
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:59:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:This reminds me of Monk. No offense intended, honestly.
A few questions: Does it annoy you a lot? Do you have the need to have everything all tidy and clean, so much that you freak out if it isnt? Does everything have to always be in its place? Do you have carpets? Do you clean up often? Do pictureframes annoy you, if they arent exactly horizontal?
Thank you for your answers.
Ha, I see where you're coming from and yeah, maybe.
I think as I'm not asking for this to benefit the pilot in anyway shape or form, and maybe to make everything a little more asthetically pleasing, it should be at least thought about by CCP. |
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Dalmont Delantee
Dropbears with Kebabs SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:01:00 -
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Are you Tom Gerrard? He post crap like this all the time.
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:06:00 -
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Miss MoneyPenny Boma wrote:Solstice Project wrote:This reminds me of Monk. No offense intended, honestly.
A few questions: Does it annoy you a lot? Do you have the need to have everything all tidy and clean, so much that you freak out if it isnt? Does everything have to always be in its place? Do you have carpets? Do you clean up often? Do pictureframes annoy you, if they arent exactly horizontal?
Thank you for your answers.
Ha, I see where you're coming from and yeah, maybe. I think as I'm not asking for this to benefit the pilot in anyway shape or form, and maybe to make everything a little more asthetically pleasing, it should be at least thought about by CCP. You like everything tidy? You feel the need of aesthetics on a stupid window you wont look at in 90% of your gametime...
I guess i was right.
Anyway.. request denied. Not gonna happen. Not because we hate you, but because your issue with your skills rather reflects deeper issues within yourself, thus not being an actual reason for such a change in the game.
Ever tried meditating? |
Aaron Canis
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:10:00 -
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Today must be angry day, every post is just insults and slander. |
Miss MoneyPenny Boma
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:12:00 -
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People are going to troll, but the idea is now on the forums. |
dexington
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:13:00 -
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Miss MoneyPenny Boma wrote:I'm not asking for SP re-inbursement, I'm not asking for a high five, I'm not asking for ANYTHING in return. I'd just like to be able to tidy up some messy skills that I never use by pressing a delete button.
Seems like a useless feature, and CCP do have limited resources. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:22:00 -
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Why would you want to remove sp? Do you have OCD? Or is this a clone cost request?
If it's clone cost, then CCP already has a mechanism....just don't buy a clone, pod yourself, SP lost. Rinse, repeat until desired SP is achieved.
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Stop using your toon in tasks that require you to die senselessly. Risk vs Reward. All the hardcore PVP'ers, null sec'ers have been shoving this down everyone's throat since forever. Take your medicine and like it! HTFU!...for the children! |
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:29:00 -
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I think injected but not trained skills should be able to be removed. Hyperfleet Industries is selectivly recruiting. Enquire today. Killboard
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:30:00 -
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If it's a matter of tidiness, just train them up to a GÇ£tidyGÇ¥ level.
The only real problem with skill deletion is that it would have to be restricted to skills that are not prerequisites to any other skills you have, and that's a bit messy to check for. And it's not because you need those skills for the prereqs GÇö the problem is exactly the opposite: since you don't need the prereq skills once you've trained the next tier, skill deletion would let you cut away all those skills you only trained as prereqs and which now only bloat your clone costs. So even if, mechanically speaking, you don't use the prereqs for other nested skills, deletion would have to consider them GÇ£in useGÇ¥ if you have any such skills.
Beyond that, sure. Delete ahead. Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:30:00 -
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If you can't deal with having some meaningless writing on your screen then you probably shouldn't be playing Eve.
Why would we want the devs wasting their time developing UI so you can remove skills that you don't need to remove. Just don't use them, simple as that. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Big Jim Slade
No Sacrifice No Victory
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:36:00 -
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Aaron Canis wrote:Today must be angry day, every post is just insults and slander. You make it sound as if there are different days. |
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:42:00 -
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Why post this not into Features and Ideas Discussion?
On the topic: the idea has been suggested many times. I see nothing wrong with it. Only it is more of a wish than a necessity and has a good chance of being completely ignored by CCP like many other wishes before it. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:52:00 -
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You can remove skills no prob! Just self-destruct yourpod over and over without updating you clone until the skill is gone! problem solved CCP don't make us wait another decade for a drone overhaul; DRONE OVERHAUL NOW! |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2013.03.20 15:16:00 -
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Perhaps if one day the clone system and it's related costs are reworked this could be looked into, but it will be a far more complicated issue than it would seem at first glance (prerequisite skills, clone levels and costs, and several other smaller details would have to be looked at, reworked completely, and tested). To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2013.03.20 15:18:00 -
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Oh god yes. Just let me remove Mining I and I'll be happy. Don't Vote for Malcanis
New Eden Training Simulation. -áIdea to improve NPE. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.03.20 15:38:00 -
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Miss MoneyPenny Boma wrote:People are going to troll, but the idea is now on the forums.
Don't worry, it'll still be forgotten and burried beneath a whole shitload of other threads nobody cares about.
In a few weeks, finding this thread again will be like looking for a needle in a really big pile of other needles. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
Miss MoneyPenny Boma
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Posted - 2013.03.20 17:08:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Why post this not into Features and Ideas Discussion? On the topic: the idea has been suggested many times. I see nothing wrong with it. Only it is more of a wish than a necessity and has a good chance of being completely ignored by CCP like many other wishes before it.
Yeah it's definitely a wish and not something game breaking that I'd like to see added.
If you don't ask you don't get.
Brooks Puuntai wrote:Oh god yes. Just let me remove Mining I and I'll be happy.
Amen. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.03.20 17:22:00 -
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Welcome to EvE?
There are no give-backs here, even I agree with that.....
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Miss MoneyPenny Boma
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Posted - 2013.03.20 17:23:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Welcome to EvE? There are no give-backs here, even I agree with that.....
Give backs? |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2013.03.20 17:40:00 -
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Well, OP, I have now confirmed that there are three players that feel passionately enough to post on this topic. I am one of them.
Not so bad these days, to be honest. But a lot of us have older characters that started out with 800k SP of which we had very little control over. We were more interested in the skill allocations due to the fact that there were no remaps back then.
For example, if you wanted a balanced character you made a Caldari Achura. But you got stuck with a lot of crap skills injected as the cost of doing it.
I would love the opportunity to delete these skills. It would not appreciably change the value of the clone as they are just a bunch of level 1 to 3, rank 1 and 2 skills. What it would do is clean up my skill sheet. And I now know I'm not alone in this. Some of us just like things tidy. Even if CCP made a cap of only 100K SP able to be deleted, it would make a world of difference.
Join the movement, good people. Let's make our voices heard and get this simple change made sooner than later.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.20 17:51:00 -
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Well, actually i was being serious, but it doesn't matter anyway.
The fact that something's not gonna happen will not stop anybody from talking about nonsense all day anyway. ^_^ |
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