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James cliford
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.03.23 21:56:00 -
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hey i was just looking at the next expansion and it got me thinking what if the worm hole reopened and we could explore earth and that it would be cool and it would change the game play so much tell me what you think in the coments |
Keitunen Eto
Uchusen Technologies
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Posted - 2013.03.23 22:44:00 -
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No.
The reason is the last contact anyone in New Eden had with earth was 16000 years ago. It is also the biggest mystery in the EVE lore. I would hate to see it be revealed. Maybe some information on what Earth was like BEFORE expanding into New Eden, but Earth 16,000 years after that im not to sure about. |
Denak Calamari
Ozark Cartel White Mountain Coalition
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Posted - 2013.03.24 09:03:00 -
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If the wormhole would open again and let us in, the following options will happen:
A. Earth and the entire Milky Way galaxy is deserted after all the resources have been depleted, resulting into the extinction of humanity or recolonizing to another galaxy with the technology they accumulated in 16,000 years. B. Earth and the entire Milky Way galaxy is at war, using weaponry and technology even an armada of Titans could not match. Entering Earth would mean very swift destruction. C. Earth and whatever is left off the galaxy come back to New Eden to reclaim it, which would result to our very swift destruction.
In my opinion, I don't want any of these happening. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2013.03.24 10:16:00 -
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Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2013.03.24 11:27:00 -
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Sorry, but I have to agree with the above posts. I'm sure any ideas you are considering would be fun gameplay wise. However lore wise, I love the mystery behind Earth. Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |
Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.25 16:27:00 -
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Denak Calamari wrote:If the wormhole would open again and let us in, the following options will happen:
A. Earth and the entire Milky Way galaxy is deserted after all the resources have been depleted, resulting into the extinction of humanity or recolonizing to another galaxy with the technology they accumulated in 16,000 years. B. Earth and the entire Milky Way galaxy is at war, using weaponry and technology even an armada of Titans could not match. Entering Earth would mean very swift destruction. C. Earth and whatever is left off the galaxy come back to New Eden to reclaim it, which would result to our very swift destruction.
In my opinion, I don't want any of these happening. Agreed, I really want to know what happened to Earth but I simaltaneously don't want to be told. Knowing the Devs have an answer they keep to themselves is honestly good enough for me.
A is the most likely of the above, for B, that superweapon the Ammarians used to take down an entire Minmatar task force in the Empyrean Age Trailer was a token gun from a Terran Freighter, their version of a Badger M2 weapon could oneshot a Titan and its accompanying Armada. C would be the likely scenario if the game is shut down, an entire expansion where the Terrans take back the cluster burning the Capsuleers away and liberating the people from our tyrannical reighn.
Also option D, as I understand wormholes can displace in both space and time, theoretically we could be in a Battlestar Galactica scenario where we think we are in the future, but are in the distant past instead. Be pretty sweet if say the 3rd world in Jita was an infant Earth.... which would make Jita 4 Mars... you get the idea.
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |
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CCP Headfirst
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.25 17:32:00 -
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You don't want to go to Earth. I hear it's overrun by vampires. :)= |
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Krell Kroenen
Miner Intimidation
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Posted - 2013.03.25 17:55:00 -
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CCP Headfirst wrote:You don't want to go to Earth. I hear it's overrun by vampires. :)=
What's the worse a sparkly vampire can do? bedazzle my ship sensors? I think not.
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Rock Brackenshield
Curry Fanatic Club Originally Riotous Corps
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:08:00 -
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CCP Headfirst wrote:You don't want to go to Earth. I hear it's overrun by vampires. :)=
I see what you did there... I could be completely off base, but i think i get what you mean.. Makes sense. Spoiler risk, so i wont expand |
James cliford
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:45:00 -
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Rock Brackenshield wrote:CCP Headfirst wrote:You don't want to go to Earth. I hear it's overrun by vampires. :)= I see what you did there... I could be completely off base, but i think i get what you mean.. Makes sense. Spoiler risk, so i wont expand nkow i whant to know |
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2013.03.25 19:50:00 -
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How come Twilight vampires became the only kind of vampires some people can think about? Did they brainwash themselves by watching the Twilight movies too many times? Nightmares - A short story by Ch+¬ Biko |
Krell Kroenen
Miner Intimidation
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Posted - 2013.03.25 19:58:00 -
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Che Biko wrote:How come Twilight vampires became the only kind of vampires some people can think about? Did they brainwash themselves by watching the Twilight movies too many times?
Or maybe people don't like vampires because werewolves are better and thus use the most unflattering examples of them they can think of. Not saying that emo vampires who weren't given enough attention by their parents when they were growing up are much better but meh I digress. |
First Bass
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:03:00 -
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CCP Headfirst wrote:You don't want to go to Earth. I hear it's overrun by vampires. :)=
Oh man, please tell me this was a Blindsight reference.
edit: it occurred to me it's more likely a WoD-MMO reference :smith: |
Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1296
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Posted - 2013.03.26 06:51:00 -
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CCP Headfirst wrote:You don't want to go to Earth. I hear it's overrun by vampires. :)= You absolute friggin cocktease. Love you, have a cookie. ^^
Seriously do you know or not what happened to Earth. Yes or no.
Truth serum in ze cookies :3
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |
Sonkut
Network Gel Strategic Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.26 12:00:00 -
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Blood raiders got there first then. |
Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:07:00 -
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For all intents and purposes, Earth is a myth. According to the backstory, the races of New Eden aren't even sure if they really have a common ancestor, much less actually know they're from the same point of origin.
How would Earth look? Who knows, Jove are the most advanced existing civilization of New Eden and they practically wiped themselves out because they played gods with their own genetic makeup. There were other advanced races about even in New Eden and in particular in the wormhole space, yet they also vanished / were wiped out. Or Milky Way could have gone the way of New Eden, splitting into factions, warring against eachother, while technologically progressing leaps and bounds beyond current technology levels. Or... you get the point.
Besides, it doesn't matter. I'd much rather learn about Tekhmal, Talocans, Jove or the ancient history of the existing factions. Who knows what else New Eden may be hiding? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:59:00 -
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CCP Headfirst wrote:You don't want to go to Earth. I hear it's overrun by vampires. :)=
You... why.... you... that's evil you know. I am going to report this. |
Dex Tera
Anomalous Existence Existential Anxiety
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Posted - 2013.03.27 04:31:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote:For all intents and purposes, Earth is a myth. According to the backstory, the races of New Eden aren't even sure if they really have a common ancestor, much less actually know they're from the same point of origin.
How would Earth look? Who knows, Jove are the most advanced existing civilization of New Eden and they practically wiped themselves out because they played gods with their own genetic makeup. There were other advanced races about even in New Eden and in particular in the wormhole space, yet they also vanished / were wiped out. Or Milky Way could have gone the way of New Eden, splitting into factions, warring against eachother, while technologically progressing leaps and bounds beyond current technology levels. Or... you get the point.
Besides, it doesn't matter. I'd much rather learn about Tekhmal, Talocans, Jove or the ancient history of the existing factions. Who knows what else New Eden may be hiding?
sry but WRONG try again the history of the eve gate and the source of the 5 major races is well known and documented also the fact that via genetics its would be quickly known that they all share a common ancestry ffs we as humans in the rl have already found this out about our current race with our current tech |
Eija-Riitta Veitonen
Unicorn Enterprise
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Posted - 2013.03.27 13:34:00 -
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Dex Tera wrote:Caitlyn Tufy wrote:For all intents and purposes, Earth is a myth. According to the backstory, the races of New Eden aren't even sure if they really have a common ancestor, much less actually know they're from the same point of origin.
How would Earth look? Who knows, Jove are the most advanced existing civilization of New Eden and they practically wiped themselves out because they played gods with their own genetic makeup. There were other advanced races about even in New Eden and in particular in the wormhole space, yet they also vanished / were wiped out. Or Milky Way could have gone the way of New Eden, splitting into factions, warring against eachother, while technologically progressing leaps and bounds beyond current technology levels. Or... you get the point.
Besides, it doesn't matter. I'd much rather learn about Tekhmal, Talocans, Jove or the ancient history of the existing factions. Who knows what else New Eden may be hiding? sry but WRONG try again the history of the eve gate and the source of the 5 major races is well known and documented also the fact that via genetics its would be quickly known that they all share a common ancestry ffs we as humans in the rl have already found this out about our current race with our current tech Also artifacts in open space remain for much, much longer than on planets. |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.27 17:28:00 -
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Earth and the humans on the other side of the EVE Gate are either extremely advanced or completely extinct. Both extremes would just not feel right for the setting of this game. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |
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Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1406
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Posted - 2013.03.27 17:52:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Earth and the humans on the other side of the EVE Gate are either extremely advanced or completely extinct. Both extremes would just not feel right for the setting of this game. They could also be less advanced than us, they were using New Eden for natural resource and the 50 years building of Stargates indicated a high demand for raw materials on the Terran side. In theory like on this side they could have collapsed and had to rebuild, maybe taking longer, maybe taking less time. Closest things to the Terrans we have are from Issue one of EON.
I got the whole stack of magasines a few weeks before they announced the end of EON .
The story about a last group of Terrans who knew everything about what had happened stuck on a moon in orbit of a gas giant. They lost FTL capability and send out the last of their people in a hollowed asteroid generation ship towards the nearest Empire, the Caldari. Drifting into Caldari space sending out hails, the Caldari pilots noticed that they were in a rich Dark Ochre asteroid generation ship....
There was a teddy bear from a little girl watching it all that got jammed in the refinery back at the station.
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |
Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2013.03.27 22:58:00 -
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Dex Tera wrote:Caitlyn Tufy wrote:For all intents and purposes, Earth is a myth. According to the backstory, the races of New Eden aren't even sure if they really have a common ancestor, much less actually know they're from the same point of origin.
How would Earth look? Who knows, Jove are the most advanced existing civilization of New Eden and they practically wiped themselves out because they played gods with their own genetic makeup. There were other advanced races about even in New Eden and in particular in the wormhole space, yet they also vanished / were wiped out. Or Milky Way could have gone the way of New Eden, splitting into factions, warring against eachother, while technologically progressing leaps and bounds beyond current technology levels. Or... you get the point.
Besides, it doesn't matter. I'd much rather learn about Tekhmal, Talocans, Jove or the ancient history of the existing factions. Who knows what else New Eden may be hiding? sry but WRONG try again the history of the eve gate and the source of the 5 major races is well known and documented also the fact that via genetics its would be quickly known that they all share a common ancestry ffs we as humans in the rl have already found this out about our current race with our current tech
According to this, common origin is just a theory and not an accepted fact:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Earth#Common_Origin_Theory |
Oreb Wing
Purging Maelstrom Sicarius Draconis
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Posted - 2013.03.30 04:46:00 -
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It's not impossible to tie in the story-lines and have them all comprehensible, but, as i've seen it, very hard to do unless you tinker a little bit with the back-story and play conspiracy games with lore and Concord. I think i'll have fun with this idea, as every time i see an expansion come, I really imagine the possibility and potential force that the ideas could have on our game. Alas, one could dream...
http://orebwing.blogspot.com/
Old post that needs work is a little lost. I'll find it and maybe continue that and this. It was a fun project, attempting to tie all 3 games together. |
Oreb Wing
Purging Maelstrom Sicarius Draconis
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Posted - 2013.03.30 05:24:00 -
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So given it's possible lore-wise, how about me mechanically? Easy. How about you allow the transition to commit an Eve character that jumps over to the Milky Way indefinitely. That means no coming back. No clone reactivation if you die. Disable neuts and ewar with some generic physics jargon and enjoy the most hardcore Eve mode that could exist. Listen to people cry about 10year old accounts and consider letting toons reanimate at the clone's SP level at the moment of translation. Allow only capital class vessels to activate a wormhole that only appears during a class6 connection to the Eve gate node that spawns a temp connection to the other side. A true Odyssey. |
Alexander Bjorvisk
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.03 22:39:00 -
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You do realize the EVE Gate is not capable of taking back people to earth anymore?
The reason society built itself up in New Eden is because they were not able to go back anymore so there was no other choice but to adapt. |
Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1547
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Posted - 2013.04.04 05:32:00 -
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Thats the theory, but in practice from the Jovians mind dump in Templar One it implies that the Jovians (granted the least advanced at the time) could barely go faster than light when expanding into New Eden. Moving from this I'm reading that in some ways New Eden has some more advanced tech than the Terran side, particularly in propulsion (at the time of the cutoff, for instance we were around 100-200 years off of Edison level tech during the Roman Empire). 1AU/s is equal to just a shade under 500c. Scale this up, include acceleration to warp and capacitor recharge (I got bored once) and we scale up to around 15 years to go from one side of the Milky Way to another assuming we use the old value of 100kly diameter.
Anyone want to bet the Jovians haven't sent out probes to all the corners of the local group of Galaxies (yes, intergalactic travel) in the Eons that have been floating around for?
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. |
James cliford
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.04 11:13:00 -
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Alexander Bjorvisk wrote:You do realize the EVE Gate is not capable of taking back people to earth anymore?
The reason society built itself up in New Eden is because they were not able to go back anymore so there was no other choice but to adapt. the eve gate was a wormhole a worm hole can reopen |
Paladinhunt
Iridius Alteria
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Posted - 2013.04.04 22:19:00 -
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Denak Calamari wrote:If the wormhole would open again and let us in, the following options will happen:
A. Earth and the entire Milky Way galaxy is deserted after all the resources have been depleted, resulting into the extinction of humanity or recolonizing to another galaxy with the technology they accumulated in 16,000 years. B. Earth and the entire Milky Way galaxy is at war, using weaponry and technology even an armada of Titans could not match. Entering Earth would mean very swift destruction. C. Earth and whatever is left off the galaxy come back to New Eden to reclaim it, which would result to our very swift destruction.
In my opinion, I don't want any of these happening.
I would like to see the idea open, To the see the Milky Way as a wasteland of sorts and near all uninhabitable could be a stunning scan gameplay expansion opportunity both storyline wise (ie what happened after the close of the gate) and other stuff we might think to be cool in terms of in-game use.
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kukki Zhu
Knights of The Appocalypse
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Posted - 2013.04.05 07:32:00 -
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This mystery will stay beautiful only while it is a mystery. No matter in what way this would be introduced, whatsoever, it would be horrible. |
Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2013.04.05 07:50:00 -
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Dex Tera wrote:[quote=Caitlyn Tufy] we as humans in the rl have already found this out about our current race with our current tech
That's because we have pretty large fossil record to refer to and can see any signs of divergence in the real world.
Each race in EVE would check their record and find it suddenly ends on their home world in most cases. There'd be NO mitochondrial "Adam" or "Eve" to refer to. They'd simply find similarities in DNA and other genetic material between races and that's it.
We can trace our real world history to places in Europe and Africa because we have migrated from there. In-fact there are fossils where every person in the world is essentially linked to. However if those links are cut (those fossils never found) each one of us could be a very different species that evolved parallel to one another. Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |
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