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Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.03.27 13:08:00 -
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Din Tempre wrote:Drake Doe wrote:Din Tempre wrote:Din Tempre wrote:This seems like a bad fit, but I'm lost for ideas. Might drop some of the exploration tools so it's less crippled.
[Legion, Lost in Space] Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
10MN Microwarpdrive II Codebreaker II Analyzer II Warp Disruptor II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Expanded Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I Salvager II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I Medium Energy Burst Aerator I
Legion Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Legion Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Prepare to laugh... [Loki, I'm a Legion I Swear] Damage Control II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 10MN Microwarpdrive II Analyzer II Codebreaker II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II Salvager II Expanded Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Same rep, better cap, significantly higher EHP, faster, more dps... I'm pretty sure this is more the legion is just bad more than the loki is an awesome laser boat... It's more like a t3 phantasm as far as how it's set up, it's still crappy but it has lasers Phantasm is my favorite ship! So I take that as a compliment. If a legion can do the cloaky explorer better I'd love to see some fit suggestions. Otherwise help with this fit (crazy as it is ) would be appreciated.
Any fit I come up with would just be EFT warrioring, I can't even fly amarr frigates but I decided to learn how to use and fit certain amarr shios so I'll try out the phantasm
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Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.03.27 14:07:00 -
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Dust to Dust:
Internal Force field array I Co processor II Tracking enhancer II
Large shield extender II adaptive invulnerablility field II (2) 10mn Afterburner II Codebreaker II Analyzer II
Heavy pulse II (3) Salvager II Expanded probe Launcher II
Medium core defense field extender II (2) Medium Em screen II |
Din Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.27 14:14:00 -
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Drake Doe wrote:Dust to Dust:
Internal Force field array I Co processor II Tracking enhancer II
Large shield extender II adaptive invulnerablility field II (2) 10mn Afterburner II Codebreaker II Analyzer II
Heavy pulse II (3) Salvager II Expanded probe Launcher II
Medium core defense field extender II (2) Medium Em screen II
Ship? If T3 which subs? |
Dash Bishop
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:09:00 -
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Njaava wrote:And yes, I definitely have Firefly in mind.
If you guys truly have Firefly in mind, you wouldn't be fitting guns in the first place. You'd be using an industrial ship.
"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it" - Jayne Cobb Caldari Militia-áGÿ£G£½GÿP |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:21:00 -
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Din Tempre wrote:Drake Doe wrote:Dust to Dust:
Internal Force field array I Co processor II Tracking enhancer II
Large shield extender II adaptive invulnerablility field II (2) 10mn Afterburner II Codebreaker II Analyzer II
Heavy pulse II (3) Salvager II Expanded probe Launcher II
Medium core defense field extender II (2) Medium Em screen II Ship? If T3 which subs? Also do not like the look of a fitting mod in an already slot starved fit. Sorry I forgot to post that this would be the phantasm |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
99
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:23:00 -
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Also if you trade the expanded for a core probe you should be able to fit two heat sinks |
Kodama Ikari
Concordiat Spaceship Samurai
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Posted - 2013.03.27 17:23:00 -
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best way to do this if you actually want to clear explo sites is to have a dedicated scout and a combat ship (combat t3 works fine) with a regular t2 cloak. Some first-hand PI tips |
Din Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.27 17:27:00 -
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Kodama Ikari wrote:best way to do this if you actually want to clear explo sites is to have a dedicated scout and a combat ship (combat t3 works fine) with a regular t2 cloak.
There are dozens of multi-ship combos that would work great. The challenge is fitting enough on to one hull. |
Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
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Posted - 2013.03.27 18:30:00 -
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What about this:
[Legion, Hi-sec Exploration] Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Reactive Armor Hardener
Codebreaker II Analyzer II 10MN Afterburner II Large Capacitor Battery II
Salvager II Salvager II Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I Heavy Pulse Laser II, Standard M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Standard M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Standard M
Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Legion Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Hammerhead II x5 |
Din Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
28
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Posted - 2013.03.27 19:20:00 -
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Zoe Alarhun wrote:What about this:
[Legion, Hi-sec Exploration] Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Reactive Armor Hardener
Codebreaker II Analyzer II 10MN Afterburner II Large Capacitor Battery II
Salvager II Salvager II Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I Heavy Pulse Laser II, Standard M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Standard M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Standard M
Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Legion Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Hammerhead II x5
Problem is dropping the nullified requirement and you have several competent T2 cruisers to consider. Drop the cloak and any drone boat will do the job.
It certainly seems like there is room for a medium ship with a fitting bonus for scanning. Codebreaking/Analyzer/Salvaging bonuses and nullifier would be just gravy. Make it T2 to distribute all those bonuses... But that's certainly off-topic now.
Just for fun: T2 Battlecruiser Line (Based off the tier 2 hulls) Racial Battlecruiser - bonus to scanner mods, bonus to probing strength Deep Space Ships - bonus to damage, bonus to tank Role Bonus - Interdiction Nullifier ability |
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.27 20:18:00 -
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In Guristas/Serpentis space, I recommend the Ishtar. Might as well use it instead of the Proteus, unless you are dead set on the nullifier. CPU is tight, but it works. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1234
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Posted - 2013.03.27 21:30:00 -
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Just going to leave this here.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30338 |
Galan Amarias
Kantian Principle
0
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:19:00 -
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Prior to t3 i had a good long, months, roam in 0.0 with a pilgrim. Gate camps tend to be really obvious if you learn to use the map. Fitting a small remote armor repairer to any drone boat will dramatically cut down on losses.
If you want a really cheap run and don't mind losing the plexes you can roam forever in a retribution. |
Din Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
28
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:52:00 -
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Thanks. Definitely useful intel to understand the benchmarks I should be aiming to hit. 550 dps with a laser cruiser is going to be pretty tricky. |
Charlie Conway
Solar Storm Insidious Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:55:00 -
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I use a Proteus fitted with cloak and Nullifier. Its sort of my deep space exploration vessel that I can take anywhere and can escape every situation. Same ship and fittings (more or less) from when I begun this little project. What I imagine your idea to be is similair to mine when I started doing it. I stock up on ammo and probes, find a WH and jump straight in. Find the exit into null/low whatever and just keep travelling this way. Scanning for juicy sites along the way, being a pest in Sov system, interacting with locals, and all the while exploring New Eden. I'll deploy and be gone for a good 3-4 weeks at times but I havent done this in a few months.
Do eet! You wont regret the adventure
I also kept a sort of captains log on my travels, its good to go back and read once your done |
Din Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.28 03:07:00 -
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Charlie Conway wrote:I use a Proteus fitted with cloak and Nullifier. Its sort of my deep space exploration vessel that I can take anywhere and can escape every situation. Same ship and fittings (more or less) from when I begun this little project. What I imagine your idea to be is similair to mine when I started doing it. I stock up on ammo and probes, find a WH and jump straight in. Find the exit into null/low whatever and just keep travelling this way. Scanning for juicy sites along the way, being a pest in Sov system, interacting with locals, and all the while exploring New Eden. I'll deploy and be gone for a good 3-4 weeks at times but I havent done this in a few months.
Do eet! You wont regret the adventure
I also kept a sort of captains log on my travels, its good to go back and read once your done
How did you stay stocked up on ammo? What were the most dangerous things you encountered and how did you survive them? More tips please |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1235
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Posted - 2013.03.28 03:58:00 -
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Din Tempre wrote:Charlie Conway wrote:I use a Proteus fitted with cloak and Nullifier. Its sort of my deep space exploration vessel that I can take anywhere and can escape every situation. Same ship and fittings (more or less) from when I begun this little project. What I imagine your idea to be is similair to mine when I started doing it. I stock up on ammo and probes, find a WH and jump straight in. Find the exit into null/low whatever and just keep travelling this way. Scanning for juicy sites along the way, being a pest in Sov system, interacting with locals, and all the while exploring New Eden. I'll deploy and be gone for a good 3-4 weeks at times but I havent done this in a few months.
Do eet! You wont regret the adventure
I also kept a sort of captains log on my travels, its good to go back and read once your done How did you stay stocked up on ammo? What were the most dangerous things you encountered and how did you survive them? More tips please
Yea, ive never known a proteus to go easy on the ammo. |
The Renner
Canadian Operations Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 05:35:00 -
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[Legion, nomad legion] Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Heat Sink II
Analyzer II Codebreaker II 10MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Expanded Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Salvager II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I
Legion Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Legion Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Legion Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier
210 omni tank 278 dps (Why doesn't the legion cov sub have a real bonus?) cap lasts for 30 mins with everything except the salvager/analyzer/codebreaker running.
If you don't mind not being able to do any of the harder nullsec plexes I could see this working.
You could also drop the TC for a scram if you wanted to, but I honestly wouldn't engage anything other than a hauler or mining barge in this. |
Zim69
Zombie Apocalypse Redux
4
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Posted - 2013.03.28 11:54:00 -
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[quote=The Renner][Legion, nomad legion] Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Heat Sink II
Analyzer II Codebreaker II 10MN Afterburner II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Expanded Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Salvager II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I
Legion Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Legion Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Legion Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier
210 omni tank 278 dps (Why doesn't the legion cov sub have a real bonus?) cap lasts for 30 mins with everything except the salvager/analyzer/codebreaker running.
I use something similar, except i drop EANM and use a Reactive Armor Hardener and drop the tracking com for a Large Capacitory Battery II |
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