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Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1433
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Posted - 2013.03.30 15:30:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:But if the person is under a session change, then I'm just going to create a fleet and sit in space moving fleet members around. Every time you move a fleet member they undergo a session change timer. Did you know that? But guess what, when they're under THAT kind of a session change timer I can still lock and blow them up. Interesting how that works. One warps you, one doesn't. The one that warps you prevents a lock. That seems fine to me. Do you get mad about people jumping through gates or docking up? I support Malcanis and Psychotic Monk for CSM8. |
Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries Push Interstellar Network
296
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Posted - 2013.03.30 15:34:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Siigari Kitawa wrote:But if the person is under a session change, then I'm just going to create a fleet and sit in space moving fleet members around. Every time you move a fleet member they undergo a session change timer. Did you know that? But guess what, when they're under THAT kind of a session change timer I can still lock and blow them up. Interesting how that works. One warps you, one doesn't. The one that warps you prevents a lock. That seems fine to me. Do you get mad about people jumping through gates or docking up? You're missing the point, methinks. You have to spam (read: click a lot) the activate gate button to become invulnerable. Just clicking "activate gate" once does not protect you. My friends and I tested this. One mashed activate gate. We couldn't lock him. The other pressed it once and we could lock him before he was catapulted by the gate.
So yeah, there's an inconsistency that needs to be addressed. Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1433
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Posted - 2013.03.30 15:41:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:You have to spam (read: click a lot) the activate gate button to become invulnerable. Just clicking "activate gate" once does not protect you. My friends and I tested this. One mashed activate gate. We couldn't lock him. The other pressed it once and we could lock him before he was catapulted by the gate.
So yeah, there's an inconsistency that needs to be addressed. Did you file a bug report? If so, why is this thread necessary? I support Malcanis and Psychotic Monk for CSM8. |
Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries Push Interstellar Network
296
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Posted - 2013.03.30 15:44:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Siigari Kitawa wrote:You have to spam (read: click a lot) the activate gate button to become invulnerable. Just clicking "activate gate" once does not protect you. My friends and I tested this. One mashed activate gate. We couldn't lock him. The other pressed it once and we could lock him before he was catapulted by the gate.
So yeah, there's an inconsistency that needs to be addressed. Did you file a bug report? If so, why is this thread necessary? My viewers stated CCP "allows" this in FW, which was the original reason for the post. Now I've heard that it is a bug and that CCP is working on fixing it (allegedly; we all know how CCP are with bugs) and the squeaky wheel gets the grease, so squeak squeak squeak ;) Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX |
March rabbit
No Name No Pain
599
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Posted - 2013.03.30 16:00:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Put yourself in my shoes. Out PVPing and suddenly something unexpected happens that ruins your fun. Would that upset you or would you be like, oh well, I'm glad that he got away. i get it every roam.... something ruines all the fun. Most of a time it happens unexpectedly and suddenly. already got used |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
567
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Posted - 2013.03.30 16:49:00 -
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So, OP is complaining about not being able to gank noobs in his op ship? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Galan Amarias
Kantian Principle
1
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Posted - 2013.03.30 17:39:00 -
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Quote:Siigari Kitawa wrote: Out PVPing and suddenly something unexpected happens that ruins your fun. Would that upset you or would you be like, oh well, I'm glad that he got away. I'd take it in stride because I know that he got off a session change before I could lock him. If he cloaked up on the other side, he outplayed me. I certainly wouldn't come here crying about something that appears to be working as intended.
This, except it wouldn't ruin my fun. The hole stalk is fun, being in pvp regions is fun. If you only have fun when noobs explode you are doing it wrong, which is not to say blowing up noobs can't be fun, just that there is more to fun than noob tears. |
Sentamon
802
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Posted - 2013.03.30 18:30:00 -
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Takseen wrote: Welcome to FW. A place where blobbing, hotdropping and just bringing bigger ships is less effective than normal. Its also an enormously popular pvp area. I'm sure the two facts are purely coincidental.
You'll make the nullbear very angry. Soon they will cry to ruin FW.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Leetha Layne
86
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Posted - 2013.03.30 18:36:00 -
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Didn't get my way = no fun |
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
391
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Posted - 2013.03.30 19:50:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote: My viewers stated CCP "allows" this in FW, which was the original reason for the post. Now I've heard that it is a bug and that CCP is working on fixing it (allegedly; we all know how CCP are with bugs) and since the squeaky wheel gets the grease then squeak squeak squeak ;)
Again, is not something specific of FW, is a well known mechanicsfor any accelleration gate, as well as stargates, whormole gates and so on and is related on how the server process the command queue. I think the message "target is invlnerable" simply means "the target is already in warp session change server side also i visually this is still not updated"
When you hit the jump command you enter in a session change and nothing can break it. If you meet the speed and allignment requirements to initiate a warp you will, and when you exit from the warp you'll be already alligned to warp
You warp at 10 km on the gate cause this will make you land at 0 anyway and will prevent you to get to bump/get stucked in the gate geometry so to break your ship's allignment/speed.
The jump spamming thing is only to be sure to have a "jump" command on the top of server command queue (same as when you spam warp to avoid to get podded when your ship is exploding) cause the server process the queue every 1 second.
basically: you exit from the warp to the gate and you already meet the allignment requirement to initiate a warp again in less than 1 second.
You say like this is some special invulnerability aded to FW gates. Isn't so, is a mechanics working so since years on accellleration gate, stargate, wormhole... and I think also on stations and something else. Simply you percive it more on FW gates because they're visible and warpable in the overview so is more easy to try ambush there, that's also why people use more the warp to 10 option :)
Any FW pilots knows the best option is to wait inside the plex, just on the warp in. |
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Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
3317
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Posted - 2013.03.30 21:30:00 -
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It's been like this for ages. Most people have adapted to the 'issues' surrounding it.
Making another waaa thread in Eve General of all places will solve nothing. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.co.uk/~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Djana Libra
The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
125
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Posted - 2013.03.30 21:43:00 -
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Takseen wrote:Posting in a "waaah why can't I circumvent plex gating requirements by camping the entrance" thread.
Think about jumpgate camps. Do you catch the guys warping TO your gate, or AWAY from your gate?
drag bubble catches the ones coming in :P
OT:
But yeah stop complaining, catch them on the inside. The mechanics work as intended. |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
300
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Posted - 2013.03.31 04:01:00 -
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Eve was much more cool before people like this guy came along.
No, not the one spamming warp,
the one with the loltastic youtube video of his neckbeard crying because he missed out on a kill.
"LANDING!"
Holy crap do you get worked up over waxing some npc'ing newbs in frigates in a one-sided fight. Here's an idea, go find pvp where your targets shoot back you man-baby.
Cry moar. Your tears sustain us. We laugh at your failures as an eve player. |
Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries Push Interstellar Network
297
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Posted - 2013.03.31 04:21:00 -
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Pr1ncess Alia wrote:Holy crap do you get worked up over waxing some npc'ing newbs in frigates in a one-sided fight. Here's an idea, go find pvp where your targets shoot back you man-baby. Cry moar. Your tears sustain us. We laugh at your failures as an eve player. Laugh, please :D Your laughter sustains me.
Also, I tend to have some soul left within me, as I play Eve for entertainment value, and enjoy the feelings I get from hanging with friends. I can make enough fun of myself, having you guys doing it too when I permit it just enriches my life. Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX |
Praetor Meles
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.03.31 09:36:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:just enriches my life.
And, from the evidence in that video, boy does it need some enrichment. [insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*
* delete as required to make your point |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4479
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Posted - 2013.03.31 10:17:00 -
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Derp, misread. I really should go to bed. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
March rabbit
No Name No Pain
601
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Posted - 2013.03.31 12:08:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote: When you hit the jump command you enter in a session change and nothing can break it. If you meet the speed and allignment requirements to initiate a warp you will, and when you exit from the warp you'll be already alligned to warp
You warp at 10 km on the gate cause this will make you land at 0 anyway and will prevent you to get to bump/get stucked in the gate geometry so to break your ship's allignment/speed.
The jump spamming thing is only to be sure to have a "jump" command on the top of server command queue (same as when you spam warp to avoid to get podded when your ship is exploding) cause the server process the queue every 1 second.
basically: you exit from the warp to the gate and you already meet the allignment requirement to initiate a warp again in less than 1 second.
you can warp to acceleration gates from any celestial of the system (read: from any direction). How it's possible that leaving warp you already aligned properly? |
Rune Ainur
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.03.31 12:23:00 -
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This nerd in this video can't even decloak the guy in the plex. Not sure he deserved to tackle the ship in the first place. |
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