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pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1077
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Posted - 2013.04.04 08:25:00 -
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Andy Landen wrote:So much going for Eve Online, but quite a few really stupid and game breaking mechanics. Top 7 things I hate about Eve Online:
1) Cyno's - many players gang up against single players. Instant movement of large super capital blobs across vast distances. 2) Stealth ships - the untouchable vehicle for cynos. Instant-locking-after-decloak stealth bombers. 3) Bumping - Many players gang up against single players. Doesn't even do damage. 4) HS Wars - Many players ganging up against single players. 5) Blind gates - Many players gang up against single players, who cannot see the other side of the gate. 6) POS POS's - What a pain. Single players cannot control these independent of the corp (many players). 7) Titans and Supers - DD ista-pop carrier. Motherships with insane ehp and damage compared to their carrier counterparts.
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1how do you suppose to move capitals if they can't use the jumpgates , and succesful deployment are one of the corner stones of a succesful nullsec alliance 2 ever heared of a ship called sabre or any proper fitted interdictor with a capapble pilot besides there are more systems than yours where you can rat or mine in null sec 3 it is agame harmless and just a nuisance if the kids want to waste their time bumping let them they will get bored soon enough 4 part of the game deal with it you can give them a nasty suprise if they let their guard down 5 nobody said it was a easy game 6 again supercaps are a essential corner stone of nullsec powerprojection and give us a reason to keep training those skills you never know maybe one day you end up flying one I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Kali Omega
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
75
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Posted - 2013.04.05 02:07:00 -
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Andy Landen wrote:I love the multiplayer aspect and my suggestions prove that multiplayer can still exist with game mechanics improvements. I am constantly surprised at how many pvpers are really just risk-adverse carebears in disguise. A pvper who prefers blobbing solo pve ships is just a carebear with a disruptor; brave in numbers, scared of his own shadow.
You love that line "solo pve ships" don't you?
Get some friends its a multiplier game,
Even more so (like ive said and others a 1000x times) if a (here is your line again) "solo pve ship" is that dumb to get him self caught that he is going to die.
When is this going to sink into that head of yours andy? |
mentalkiller
Galbadian Rush
32
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Posted - 2013.04.05 02:26:00 -
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let me guess you live in null sec wololoooooooooo /mentalKiller |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2013.04.05 02:39:00 -
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Kali Omega wrote:Andy Landen wrote:I love the multiplayer aspect and my suggestions prove that multiplayer can still exist with game mechanics improvements. I am constantly surprised at how many pvpers are really just risk-adverse carebears in disguise. A pvper who prefers blobbing solo pve ships is just a carebear with a disruptor; brave in numbers, scared of his own shadow. You love that line "solo pve ships" don't you?
He does have a point.
For all the chest beating, and all the "I'M BIGGER AND BETTER THAN U!!!" rhetoric, the PvPers are but PvErs in disquise.
You raid. You market. You even build things. Heck, you even pick up brass like a good Marine.
The difference is PvErs realize all this and don't care. It seems PvPers can't get around the fact they do PvE. Maybe that's where all the hatred comes from, hating yourselves.
You're not going to control people. They're going to play what they like, and look at the junior high playground for what it is. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Kali Omega
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
77
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Posted - 2013.04.05 03:51:00 -
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I've never done a mission/complex in my life....
I have killed a rat or two in belt though...does that make me a pve'er ? I think not |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:31:00 -
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Kali Omega wrote:I've never done a mission/complex in my life....
I have killed a rat or two in belt though...does that make me a pve'er ? I think not
You may not, but your alt did (which is you regardless).
You can't escape the PvE side in EvE. Everyone engages in it. It's why it even exists in a PvP game. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Naes Mlahrend
KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance
82
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Posted - 2013.04.05 11:20:00 -
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I PVP and PVE. Don't understand the big deal here. I enjoy both aspects of the game.
On topic: I hate: 1) My bigger ships getting stuck on stations because they align/warp so freaking slow. 2) Opening mail and my window being all jacked up every time 3) Having to log off to switch chars
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Kali Omega
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
83
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Posted - 2013.04.05 12:24:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Kali Omega wrote:I've never done a mission/complex in my life....
I have killed a rat or two in belt though...does that make me a pve'er ? I think not You may not, but your alt did (which is you regardless). You can't escape the PvE side in EvE. Everyone engages in it. It's why it even exists in a PvP game.
My only alt is a covert cyno alt...she sits cloaked waiting for people like andy.. no pve for her either. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
64
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Posted - 2013.04.05 12:35:00 -
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Kali Omega wrote:You ask how to i make isk? Loot... "its a pirates life for me" Yarrr
Welcome to PvE.
Selling. Buying. Trading. Building. Are all PvE activities.
Putting lipstick on the pig doesn't make it PvP.
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Kali Omega
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
83
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Posted - 2013.04.05 12:45:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Kali Omega wrote:You ask how to i make isk? Loot... "its a pirates life for me" Yarrr Welcome to PvE. Selling. Buying. Trading. Building. Are all PvE activities. Putting lipstick on the pig doesn't make it PvP.
I would define pve has shooting a rat (or some non player ship). What i do would be trading yes, but i would not define that as "pve"... |
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Frying Doom
2166
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Posted - 2013.04.05 12:58:00 -
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I would answer by saying POS management
but that would be overkill. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras |
Naes Mlahrend
KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance
82
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Posted - 2013.04.05 13:17:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Kali Omega wrote:You ask how to i make isk? Loot... "its a pirates life for me" Yarrr Welcome to PvE. Selling. Buying. Trading. Building. Are all PvE activities. Putting lipstick on the pig doesn't make it PvP.
Trading is pretty much pvp. |
Nex apparatu5
Friendship is Podding Test Alliance Please Ignore
474
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Posted - 2013.04.05 13:34:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Kali Omega wrote:You ask how to i make isk? Loot... "its a pirates life for me" Yarrr Welcome to PvE. Selling. Buying. Trading. Building. Are all PvE activities. Putting lipstick on the pig doesn't make it PvP.
Selling and buying is trading. Trading is definitely PVP. |
Frying Doom
2169
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Posted - 2013.04.05 13:35:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Kali Omega wrote:You ask how to i make isk? Loot... "its a pirates life for me" Yarrr Welcome to PvE. Selling. Buying. Trading. Building. Are all PvE activities. Putting lipstick on the pig doesn't make it PvP. But where do you draw that line
as tradionally PvP is litererally Player vs Player and PvE is Player vs Environment.
So is ganking a defenseless mining ship PvP, by your definition? or does the opponent have to armed? Does to outcome have to cost the opponent isk? or a ship?
It very much depends on the shade of the lipstick. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras |
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
141
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Posted - 2013.04.05 13:50:00 -
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OP should HTFU. |
Raptors Mole
The Pheasant Pluckers
86
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Posted - 2013.04.05 14:52:00 -
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EVE is such a diverse game that opinions vary considerably. Op had 7 things he hates. Here are mine, 1.The rank structure is broken. We are all Captains but when I told my FC he canGÇÖt order me to GÇ£jump jumpGÇ¥ and I am not GÇ£holding my cloakGÇ¥ as I donGÇÖt own one, kicked me from fleet. Power mad nutter!
2.People who say GÇ£YarrrGÇ¥! Who arenGÇÖt from the West Country, have one eye, a wooden leg and parrot or have had a stroke. Gits!
3.Suicide gankers who actually believe they are good at PvP. Suicide ganking for profit yes, shitz and giggles yes, Pod poker yes. But an elite PvPer errrm no.
4.People who think they are GÇ£Elite Null Sec space pilotsGÇ¥. Who wonGÇÖt undock a Hulk or their CNR to rat without an all clear in the whole constellation. Then because a manticore pilot was seen in local yesterday spend 8 hours bitching on the forums about nerfing Cov Ops or Hi Sec as they earn more isk than you per hour GÇô BECAUSE THEY ARENGÇÖT DOCKED UP ALL DAY. Pillock!
5.Dramiel Pilots. Because I have never managed to kill one. I know there have been some terribad fits seen on Lossmails. Every Dramiel pilot I meet flies like a WW2 ace and I end up on fire picking shrapnel out of my pod. I will remove this from the list if I ever manage to kill one. Until then you are all barstewards.
6.Goonswarm drones. Remember the kids in school who thought they were cool, but were actually tossers. Well thatGÇÖs where they hang out in EVE. Except the guys who run the Goonswarm who are taking advantage of them. I LIKE those guys.
7.Tear Harvesters These are people who do bone things to others that arenGÇÖt funny, make no profit or take any skill whatsoever - then bragging about it. An example would be repeatedly shooting a newbie in his rookie ship at the undock then boasting on C&P about it with a terrible post. These people are so fail not even Goonswarm will take them.
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Kali Omega
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
90
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Posted - 2013.04.05 15:09:00 -
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Raptors Mole wrote:EVE is such a diverse game that opinions vary considerably. Op had 7 things he hates. Here are mine, 1.The rank structure is broken. We are all Captains but when I told my FC he canGÇÖt order me to GÇ£jump jumpGÇ¥ and I am not GÇ£holding my cloakGÇ¥ as I donGÇÖt own one, kicked me from fleet. Power mad nutter!
2.People who say GÇ£YarrrGÇ¥! Who arenGÇÖt from the West Country, have one eye, a wooden leg and parrot or have had a stroke. Gits!
3.Suicide gankers who actually believe they are good at PvP. Suicide ganking for profit yes, shitz and giggles yes, Pod poker yes. But an elite PvPer errrm no.
4.People who think they are GÇ£Elite Null Sec space pilotsGÇ¥. Who wonGÇÖt undock a Hulk or their CNR to rat without an all clear in the whole constellation. Then because a manticore pilot was seen in local yesterday spend 8 hours bitching on the forums about nerfing Cov Ops or Hi Sec as they earn more isk than you per hour GÇô BECAUSE THEY ARENGÇÖT DOCKED UP ALL DAY. Pillock!
5.Dramiel Pilots. Because I have never managed to kill one. I know there have been some terribad fits seen on Lossmails. Every Dramiel pilot I meet flies like a WW2 ace and I end up on fire picking shrapnel out of my pod. I will remove this from the list if I ever manage to kill one. Until then you are all barstewards.
6.Goonswarm drones. Remember the kids in school who thought they were cool, but were actually tossers. Well thatGÇÖs where they hang out in EVE. Except the guys who run the Goonswarm who are taking advantage of them. I LIKE those guys.
7.Tear Harvesters These are people who do bone things to others that arenGÇÖt funny, make no profit or take any skill whatsoever - then bragging about it. An example would be repeatedly shooting a newbie in his rookie ship at the undock then boasting on C&P about it with a terrible post. These people are so fail not even Goonswarm will take them.
1. Sounds like you need a new corp...or one that just doenst RP as hard core.
2. Yarr
3: Gank tears are the best tears so 100% agree with you.
4. +1
5. Have to take your word for it.
6. Goonswarm bad? ok
7. Fail pirates/km whores are bad mkay.
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Andy Landen
Air Red Alliance
107
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Posted - 2013.04.05 21:15:00 -
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Kali Omega wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Kali Omega wrote:I've never done a mission/complex in my life....
I have killed a rat or two in belt though...does that make me a pve'er ? I think not You may not, but your alt did (which is you regardless). You can't escape the PvE side in EvE. Everyone engages in it. It's why it even exists in a PvP game. My only alt is a covert cyno alt...she sits cloaked waiting for people like andy.. no pve for her either. You ask how to i make isk? Loot... "its a pirates life for me" Yarrr
Dude, you are the rats of the pve world. You make the cyno which brings lots of red targets ganging up on a single pve ship. The difference is that you have disruptors and you weren't invited, unlike most of the rats. Neither of those points makes you any more elite than a pve "rat." So yes, by fighting a pve ship, you are doing pve, while calling pvp of all things. A carebear flying a pirate flag and whining about proposals to improve the mechanics that you hold so dear to being a carebear .. what do you make of that? |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2013.04.05 23:07:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:But where do you draw that line
I don't draw the line.
PvE or PvP doesn't matter in the scheme of things.
When you get past the labels and play the game not like it's a junior high playground, you enjoy it for it's worth, not what others think is your worth.
Someone wrote this on a YouTube Video...
Quote: why do some people have to put others down justn++ to make themselves feel better. i think its an insecurity issue
And it's true.
If you put the Goonies together in a room. You'll probably see the shyiest, fat, insecure people around. But give them a fake name and a modem, they can be the worst Dennis the Menaces.
So this is why, truly, in the scheme of things PvE or PvP doesn't matter. Joe Blow can rant and rave about he's the best PvPer in the world by showing off his KBs, but that fulltime manufacturer just scored 10bil isk and he's on the way of being a tycoon.
So who is the "king"?
It's in the eye of the beholder. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
436
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Posted - 2013.04.05 23:18:00 -
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If you don't like the things on that list, then EVE isn't your game. If you can get by avoiding those aspects of the game, then you're not really playing EVE. Mittani, where have you gone to? I miss you :( |
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2013.04.05 23:53:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:If you don't like the things on that list, then EVE isn't your game. If you can get by avoiding those aspects of the game, then you're not really playing EVE.
No...
You don't seem to understand that what's portrayed on the forums isn't the game itself.
All you powerblock folks hang out here, like the "elite" raiders in other games. Some 10% of the population, but a v-e-r-y vocal 10%.
I'm interested in the building/trading aspects of the game (which isn't available in other MMOs at this scale). The PvP side I can get in 1000001 games, so it's not the reason I even came to play the game.
Now until CCP gets rid of building and marketing, I will park my butt here and play it's PvE. Don't like it, scream at CCP, as I'm going to play what the game has for building/marketing.
Scream, holler, do some roach dance, I'll still play the game for what it's worth...to me. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
7777
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Posted - 2013.04.06 00:11:00 -
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Ace Uoweme I'm interested in the building/trading aspects of the game (which isn't available in other MMOs at this scale). The PvP side I can get in 1000001 games, so it's not the reason I even came to play the game.
Now until CCP gets rid of building and marketing, I will park my butt here and play it's PvE. Don't like it, scream at CCP, as I'm going to play what the game has for building/marketing.
Scream, holler, do some roach dance, I'll still play the game for what it's worth...to me. [:bear: wrote: If you're here for the market and industry, that's not PvE, that's you versus every other player in the game, whether you see it or not. If it was PvE you would be competing with NPCs, there's very little NPC presence in the market and none in industry. 99% of transaction are between players, 99% of everything for sale on the market is made by a player, you're taking part in PvP, pretty brutal PvP at times. Even the PvE is there to fuel PvP, mining, looting, salvage, PI, all of it either goes through the market in its intial form or gets processed and used to produce something that can be sold on the market.
That's what people who come from other games don't understand, Eve is a PvP game that just happens to have some PvE elements, not great ones either.
EvE, everybody vs everbody - RubyPorto
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Kali Omega
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
112
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Posted - 2013.04.06 02:32:00 -
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Andy Landen wrote:Kali Omega wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Kali Omega wrote:I've never done a mission/complex in my life....
I have killed a rat or two in belt though...does that make me a pve'er ? I think not You may not, but your alt did (which is you regardless). You can't escape the PvE side in EvE. Everyone engages in it. It's why it even exists in a PvP game. My only alt is a covert cyno alt...she sits cloaked waiting for people like andy.. no pve for her either. You ask how to i make isk? Loot... "its a pirates life for me" Yarrr Dude, you are the rats of the pve world. You make the cyno which brings lots of red targets ganging up on a single pve ship. The difference is that you have disruptors and you weren't invited, unlike most of the rats. Neither of those points makes you any more than a pve "rat." So yes, by fighting a pve ship, you are doing pve, while calling it pvp of all things. A carebear flying a pirate flag and whining about proposals to improve the mechanics that you hold so dear to being a carebear .. what do you make of that?
So if i fight a (live person) who is in a (pve) ship its Pve? wow Andy you have gone to all high in proving your ignorance |
Andy Landen
Air Red Alliance
107
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Posted - 2013.04.06 03:09:00 -
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Kali Omega wrote:Andy Landen wrote: Dude, you are the rats of the pve world. You make the cyno which brings lots of red targets ganging up on a single pve ship. The difference is that you have disruptors and you weren't invited, unlike most of the rats. Neither of those points makes you any more than a pve "rat." So yes, by fighting a pve ship, you are doing pve, while calling it pvp of all things. A carebear flying a pirate flag and whining about proposals to improve the mechanics that you hold so dear to being a carebear .. what do you make of that?
So if i fight a (live person) who is in a (pve) ship its Pve? wow Andy you have gone to all high in proving your ignorance
You have gone to an all high to deny the resemblence to pve. Think about it: A pve ship vs lots of red crosses (rats/you). The blob happens to be controlled by players, but they are no different than an unexpected spawn of rats with disruptors. If you like blobbing pve ships without any risk to yourselves, then you are just a bunch of carebears merely pretending to be pvpers. If you dislike increasing the difficult and risk to your blob, then you are even more of a carebear.
My feedback and proposals make this thread a feedback and development thread, but the forum admins do not want people to consider these new ideas as feedback for development. Reveals the heavy hand of censorship, IMHO. |
Kali Omega
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
112
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Posted - 2013.04.06 03:19:00 -
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Andy Landen wrote:Kali Omega wrote:Andy Landen wrote: Dude, you are the rats of the pve world. You make the cyno which brings lots of red targets ganging up on a single pve ship. The difference is that you have disruptors and you weren't invited, unlike most of the rats. Neither of those points makes you any more than a pve "rat." So yes, by fighting a pve ship, you are doing pve, while calling it pvp of all things. A carebear flying a pirate flag and whining about proposals to improve the mechanics that you hold so dear to being a carebear .. what do you make of that?
So if i fight a (live person) who is in a (pve) ship its Pve? wow Andy you have gone to all high in proving your ignorance You have gone to an all high to deny the resemblence to pve. Think about it: A pve ship vs lots of red crosses (rats/you). The blob happens to be controlled by players, but they are no different than an unexpected spawn of rats with disruptors. If you like blobbing pve ships without any risk to yourselves, then you are just a bunch of carebears merely pretending to be pvpers. If you dislike increasing the difficult and risk to your blob, then you are even more of a carebear. My feedback and proposals make this thread a feedback and development thread, but the forum admins do not want people to consider these new ideas as feedback for development. Reveals the heavy hand of censorship, IMHO.
PVE (Player vs environment )
PVP (Player vs player)
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
437
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Posted - 2013.04.06 03:21:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:The PvP side I can get in 1000001 games, FTFY Mittani, where have you gone to? I miss you :( |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
77
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Posted - 2013.04.06 04:22:00 -
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PVE (Player vs environment ) - Ratting/building/trading/marketing/fitting/sitting in the station spinning ships
PVP (Player vs player) - combat with actual other players (shooting POSes for example isn't PvP, that's PvE).
Argument ended. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
437
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Posted - 2013.04.06 04:45:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:PVE (Player vs environment ) - Ratting/building/trading/marketing/fitting/sitting in the station spinning ships
PVP (Player vs player) - combat with actual other players (shooting POSes for example isn't PvP, that's PvE).
Argument ended. Actually shooting POSes is very much PVP. I'm working with my group to grief these other people by taking their stuff away. They then form a defense fleet and go meet us, and decide if it's a good idea to fight us. If they come at us, we decide if it's a good idea to stick around. 95% of the time it's not a fair fight, and 3% of the time it would have been a fair fight but a bad FC messed it up. Yet even though we got blueballed, PVP still happened because we still took their POS from them -or- lost some ships running away with our tail between our legs.
This is the sort of PVP you will never find in any other game. We have a small percentage of pilots who love flying about solo or in small groups in stealthy ships in our enemies' territory picking off stragglers and making us look scary, while a small percentage of them d the same to us. That 5% or so of the alliance cause some 40% of the opposing alliance to lose PVE ships on a regular basis and become extremely frustrated with EVE and go raging on the forums about how one-sided and unfair EVE PVP is.
That's what sets EVE PVP apart from other games. You can't even draw a line between PVP and PVE. In fact, just when you think you have found a nook or cranny where you can safely PVE without fear of PVP, someone will find you and grief you just on principle. 65% of the people who get griefed in this way sincerely believe that the aggressor did it just to be a ****, because they are antisocial, or because they are exceedingly bored. But the reality is that these griefers feel they have an obligation to the EVE community to make sure that nobody can feel safe anywhere. They work very hard and struggle to grief as much and as well as they do. It is not as easy as it looks, but it is much more fulfilling than you might think it is if you don't have much understanding of EVE's economy.
And that's another thing that sets EVE apart from other massive games. Its economy is not only vast and varied, but the majority of it is somewhat hidden from view. Despite there being a wealth of players who are eager to bring new people into the "real" game, there are still entire herds of newcomers who have no idea that this economy exists, and will go on for long periods of time believing that EVE is a harsh, everyone-for-themselves sort of land, and banking on the sense of accomplishment being from managing to put up with it all and still come out successful. They will draft up their own goals to measure their success by, and the few who achieve these goals are left wondering why the majority of the EVE community really isn't impressed by their success, because they have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the EVE economy works.
It is these sorts of disparities in how EVE works versus how the denizens of EVE think EVE works that adds another layer of mystery and intrigue to the game. You might be convinced that your luck has been cursed with a powerful enchantment, or that you must have rubbed some internet deity the wrong way, because your luck in the game is incomprehensibly bad. There is just no way that players who aren't working together on a level almost unseen in the real world, who don't have an enormous amount of infrastructure invested in the game, could ever have managed to position themselves so perfectly as to be in just the right place at the right time to grief you as horribly as they did. Every time it happens, you will swear up and down that it is just sheer dumb luck, and every time it will happen again. And until you watch these griefers in action, you will have no idea how the things they do are even physically possible. At least that's how it was for me and a few others I know.
That's the sort of things that set EVE apart from other games. It really is the PVP, and I'm not trying to start a pissing contest with you or anything, but it really is all about the EVE PVP. Your PVP experiences here aren't the end-all-be-all of EVE PVP. Mittani, where have you gone to? I miss you :( |
Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
7783
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Posted - 2013.04.06 09:58:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:PVE (Player vs environment ) - Ratting/building/trading/marketing/fitting/sitting in the station spinning ships
PVP (Player vs player) - combat with actual other players (shooting POSes for example isn't PvP, that's PvE).
Argument ended. Wrong, PvE is shooting at NPCs, ship spinning is admiring your ship, the other 4 are PvP.
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Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
30
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Posted - 2013.04.06 10:28:00 -
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Quote: null sec and low sec was not meant for the faint of heart
Tell that to the blue donut. Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them. |
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