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TomHorn
Horn and Brothers New Eden Research.
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Posted - 2013.04.06 02:54:00 -
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Ladies and gentlemen, can there be anyone tonight who is so blind fails to realize that the Gallente Federation has said the time is now? That this is the time for the show down between the Caldari Sate and the atheistic Gallente Federation.
Unless we face this fact, we shall pay the price that must be paid by those who wait too long.
When a great State is destroyed, it will not be from enemies from without, but rather because of enemies from within.
The reason why we find ourselves in a position of impotency is not because our powerful enemy has sent men to invade our regions our space our planets, but rather because of the traitorous actions of those who have been treated so well by this State. It has not been the less fortunate, or members of minority groups who have been traitorous to this State, but rather those who have had all the benefits that the wealthiest State in New Eden has had to offer.
This is glaringly true in the case of the Mega Corporations and the Chief Executive Panel. There the men who are born with silver spoons in their mouths are the ones who have been most traitorous
As you know, very recently Ishukone CEO Mens Reppola is guilty of what has always been considered as the most abominable of all crimes, being a traitor to the Caldari people while in a position of great trust, high treason.
He has lighted the spark which is resulting in a moral uprising and will end only when the whole sorry mess of twisted, warped thinkers like Mens Reppola and others, are swept from the Mega Corporations and the Caldari State scene so that we may have a new birth of honesty and decency with Tibus Heth.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
248
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Posted - 2013.04.06 03:09:00 -
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I believe the records would show that Chief Executive Reppola worked himself up the ladder of Ishukone Watch through his own merits and was elected to his current position by shareholders who recognized his talents and ability to carry out the duties and responsibilities required. I'm not sure how that quantifies as a life born into ease and luxury, with a silver spoon in mouth.
I think what I find more abominable is any idiot under CONCORD regulatory authority having access to public communications mediums and thinking that their thoughts and opinions are relevant when they lack any modicum of eloquence or functional intelligence to construct a sensible line of argument. |
Natalcya Katla
Naqam Shaktipat Revelators
109
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Posted - 2013.04.06 03:12:00 -
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Ladies and gentlemen, how many simultaneous threads on the IGS do you need for one single mud-slinging contest? |
James Syagrius
Stillwater Corporation
313
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Posted - 2013.04.06 03:52:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, how many simultaneous threads on the IGS do you need for one single mud-slinging contest? All of them?
"We are what we do." |
Natalcya Katla
Naqam Shaktipat Revelators
109
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Posted - 2013.04.06 04:11:00 -
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James Syagrius wrote: All of them?
Apparently so. |
Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
144
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Posted - 2013.04.06 04:38:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:James Syagrius wrote: All of them?
Apparently so.
Nah. There's always the Disciples of Ston thread to bring some class to this circus. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
585
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Posted - 2013.04.06 05:17:00 -
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Haters gonna hate. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |
Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
376
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Posted - 2013.04.06 06:21:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, how many simultaneous threads on the IGS do you need for one single mud-slinging contest? At least one per psycho. |
BloodBird
Mixed Metaphor
114
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Posted - 2013.04.06 06:49:00 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Natalcya Katla wrote:James Syagrius wrote: All of them?
Apparently so. Nah. There's always the Disciples of Ston thread to bring some class to this circus.
I would never call what they do 'classy' but, to each their own.
This clown up here for instance, is very late to the party. Heth is falling apart at the seams and NOW he shows up?
Kim at least had the courtesy to be around when Heth has some popular backing and looked a little good, and she has a long and... *ahem* noble, tradition in her persistent pro-Heth trolling.
This poor guy has neither of those.
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
81
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Posted - 2013.04.06 07:50:00 -
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So. Why are their actions treasonous? You go on at length about treason, but that one detail... |
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
399
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Posted - 2013.04.06 10:24:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:So. Why are their actions treasonous? You go on at length about treason, but that one detail... Laid in a bed with gallentean scum. Talking to them as they are their friends. Kneeing before them... Bargaining with them...
This is disgusting, this is dishonorable. They lost their face, they lost their pride and they insulted heroes of CN Shiigeru and our ancestors! |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
885
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Posted - 2013.04.06 10:42:00 -
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Well, well, well...at least you finally had the gumption to outright state your opposition to the Chief Executive Panel.
See you in space, hnloku. ~Malcolm Khross
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TomHorn
Horn and Brothers New Eden Research.
95
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Posted - 2013.04.06 10:49:00 -
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Quote:So. Why are their actions treasonous? You go on at length about treason, but that one detail...
Mens Reppola is one of the main instigators ,along with others of the signing of the appeasment treaty with the enemy. Even after the recent atrocities of the destroying of the Shiigeru, rather than continue the fight he has handed over back control of our planet.
He must be removed from his position as CEO Ishukone Corporation. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
250
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Posted - 2013.04.06 10:55:00 -
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TomHorn wrote: Mens Reppola is one of the main instigators ,along with others of the signing of the appeasment treaty with the enemy. Even after the recent atrocities of the destroying of the Shiigeru, rather than continue the fight he has handed over back control of our planet.
He must be removed from his position as CEO Ishukone Corporation.
I'm certain if you're a shareholder in Ishukone you can raise the issue of replacing CEO Reppola at a General Meeting. Unless of course you are implying some other, illegal, action to do so?
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
2390
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Posted - 2013.04.06 11:44:00 -
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Yeah, TomHorn, basically everything you said was bullshit and I'm pretty sure you're aware of it. Mane 614
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Toluijin Chagangan
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
78
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:48:00 -
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TomHorn wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, can there be anyone tonight who is so blind fails to realize that the Gallente Federation has said the time is now? That this is the time for the show down between the Caldari Sate and the atheistic Gallente Federation. [...]
The reason why we find ourselves in a position of impotency is not because our powerful enemy has sent men to invade our regions our space our planets, but rather because of the traitorous actions of those who have been treated so well by this State. It has not been the less fortunate, or members of minority groups who have been traitorous to this State, but rather those who have had all the benefits that the wealthiest State in New Eden has had to offer.
This is glaringly true in the case of the Mega Corporations and the Chief Executive Panel. There the men who are born with silver spoons in their mouths are the ones who have been most traitorous
As you know, very recently Ishukone CEO Mens Reppola is guilty of what has always been considered as the most abominable of all crimes, being a traitor to the Caldari people while in a position of great trust, high treason.
He has lighted the spark which is resulting in a moral uprising and will end only when the whole sorry mess of twisted, warped thinkers like Mens Reppola and others, are swept from the Mega Corporations and the Caldari State scene so that we may have a new birth of honesty and decency with Tibus Heth.
For clarity's sake i have highlighted the parts where you are most glaringly wrong. Though I could have highlighted the entire passage. |
Toluijin Chagangan
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
78
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:58:00 -
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For specifics.
1) The Gallente federation may have no 'state religion' but they are not a specifically atheistic group. In fact, the same can be said about the state.
2) The State economy, while recovering over the past five years is still a pale shadow of the Gallente economy.
3) The CEP are the rightful leaders of the state, their decisions define state wide law. It is not possible for them to be traitors against the ONLY dissenting voice, which is the voice of Heth-hnolku
4) Honest and Decent are not words that are viable when describing your current tyrant. He has lied, by annulling the corporate ownership of systems within the CEWPA war-zone after accepting the ISK that was bid for them, which proves him dishonest. He has ordered the deaths of civilian protestors aboard corporate freighters, which is not the act of a decent and upstanding individual.
While loyalty to your home empire is a laudable act, Loyalty to the man attempting to use it for his own blind hatreds is not.
Seven Tribes. One Matari People |
Felsusguy
Archimedes RD Company
54
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:15:00 -
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TomHorn wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, can there be anyone tonight who is so blind fails to realize that the Gallente Federation has said the time is now? That this is the time for the show down between the Caldari Sate and the atheistic Gallente Federation.
Unless we face this fact, we shall pay the price that must be paid by those who wait too long.
When a great State is destroyed, it will not be from enemies from without, but rather because of enemies from within.
The reason why we find ourselves in a position of impotency is not because our powerful enemy has sent men to invade our regions our space our planets, but rather because of the traitorous actions of those who have been treated so well by this State. It has not been the less fortunate, or members of minority groups who have been traitorous to this State, but rather those who have had all the benefits that the wealthiest State in New Eden has had to offer.
This is glaringly true in the case of the Mega Corporations and the Chief Executive Panel. There the men who are born with silver spoons in their mouths are the ones who have been most traitorous
As you know, very recently Ishukone CEO Mens Reppola is guilty of what has always been considered as the most abominable of all crimes, being a traitor to the Caldari people while in a position of great trust, high treason.
He has lighted the spark which is resulting in a moral uprising and will end only when the whole sorry mess of twisted, warped thinkers like Mens Reppola and others, are swept from the Mega Corporations and the Caldari State scene so that we may have a new birth of honesty and decency with Tibus Heth.
Yes, Mens Reppola must burn for supporting peace and prosperity over blind violence! How droll. |
Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
809
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Posted - 2013.04.06 14:07:00 -
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See, I thought treason was using a group of terrorists to act against the decision of the Chief Executive Panel... Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
95
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:16:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:So. Why are their actions treasonous? You go on at length about treason, but that one detail... Laid in a bed with gallentean scum. Talking to them as they are their friends. Kneeing before them... Bargaining with them... This is disgusting, this is dishonorable. They lost their face, they lost their pride and they insulted heroes of CN Shiigeru and our ancestors! Diana,
As for ancestors it all depends on how far back you go. Because if you don't stop at a predetermined year, eventually we are all one people. Also, "Laid in a bed" and "kneeling before", I think that you are beginning to visualize making love not war. Nothing disgusting about making love.
Deacon
p.s. You could eat some more also. I'm worried that the constant gnawing hunger in your stomach may be affecting your emotional and mental health. Indulge a little in the pleasures of the flesh. |
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Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1105
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:47:00 -
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TomHorn wrote:...show down between the Caldari Sate and the atheistic Gallente Federation.
"Atheistic"?
Are you SURE you're Caldari? Because you damn well don't act like one. Our form of government is completely secular. In the State I'm from, religion is a private matter and irrelevant to a person's public life.
"Atheistic" is not a valid objection anyway, and it's a bloody stupid one when you realise that there are a huge number of Amarr adherents living in the Federation, both Amarrian expats and liberated Minmatar converts. You could make a case for the Federation actually being the second most Reclaimed nation in New Eden, in fact.
Whatever you're medicating yourself with, I bet it's illegal. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
104
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:47:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:See, I thought treason was using a group of terrorists to act against the decision of the Chief Executive Panel...
Treason is a charge invented by the winners as an excuse for hanging the losers. |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1105
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Posted - 2013.04.06 17:16:00 -
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in this case it's more being used as a desperate stab by the sore losers who prefer a paranoid fantasy of betrayal over honest introspection. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Tribal Band
651
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Posted - 2013.04.07 02:08:00 -
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So I see the Amarrian inquisition has set up shop in The State very interesting. I was actually enjoying life in the State during the time I lived there, of course The Malkalen incident made it a little difficult for me to walk outside without getting dirty looks, I even got physically assaulted at one point.
Seems that the State is coming full circle in it's wayward internal affairs. Tibus Heth will keep you in an infinite loop of self destruction until more people wise up.
Though here in the Federation we have very different ideas of treason. You can speak out against the government, but causing the deaths of millions of Gallente soldiers and the loss of a planet justifies public execution by internal combustion. I guess both are worthy of such a terrible fate in the State. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
890
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Posted - 2013.04.07 02:31:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Seems that the State is coming full circle in it's wayward internal affairs. Tibus Heth will keep you in an infinite loop of self destruction until more people wise up.
Time will tell.
Fredfredbug4 wrote:Though here in the Federation we have very different ideas of treason. You can speak out against the government, but causing the deaths of millions of Gallente soldiers and the loss of a planet justifies public execution by internal combustion. I guess both are worthy of such a terrible fate in the State.
Not precisely. Speaking out against our leaders is heavily discouraged, not just socially but also corporately. To openly speak against the leaders of the State is to incite dissent and rebellion, disrupting the operation and security that the State embodies. An individual that openly speaks against the leadership of the State would normally face being isolated socially and possibly suffering a loss of position and status in their corporation. It would not be impossible to climb their way back up the corporate ladder and regain their social honor but it would take time.
It is difficult to understand, I am sure. However, the Caldari traditionally place extreme value on the community and the merit of our leadership. We are expected to sacrifice daily to serve the good of the many and this involves displaying discretion in our speech and behavior publicly. ~Malcolm Khross
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Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Tribal Band
651
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Posted - 2013.04.07 03:18:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote: It is difficult to understand, I am sure. However, the Caldari traditionally place extreme value on the community and the merit of our leadership. We are expected to sacrifice daily to serve the good of the many and this involves displaying discretion in our speech and behavior publicly.
Being half Caldari myself I do appreciate Caldari values, especially that of community. However, could it be possible that staying silent in the face of poor leadership is not for the greater good? Is it good for the community to allow someone to that could hurt it to stay in power? My Gallente side is saying "certainly not".
I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
790
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Posted - 2013.04.07 05:10:00 -
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It is only ever acceptable to question leadership if you have a better candidate to lead in mind and if the candidate has displayed that she or he would accept your support.
In a meritocracy the simplest method of doing so is to step in and do a better job yourself, of course. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
257
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:06:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote: Being half Caldari myself I do appreciate Caldari values, especially that of community. However, could it be possible that staying silent in the face of poor leadership is not for the greater good? Is it good for the community to allow someone to that could hurt it to stay in power? My Gallente side is saying "certainly not".
Leadership figures in the State are continuously scrutinized in the media, one needs only look at the varied news feeds from a variety of corporate outlets that almost every decision and action by corporate leaders will be open to public discussion, analysis and speculation. The only real issue is being able to discern the expected bias from differing corporate media. This is not necessarily a bad thing, as each Megacorporate media outlet seeking to create their own messages allows for greater dialogue and information to be available to citizens to form their own views and opinions.
However, personal political views and opinions should never impact detrimentally on business operations where one is employed. Public questioning of corporate leadership can often be seen as a betrayal as such information can be manipulated by competitors to drive share prices down, create a loss in favourable public perception, and loss of market value which would risk the jobs and livelihoods of employees. As such, it is often best in situations of grossly incompetent leadership to act with dignity and decorum, gain the necessary proof of negligence in leadership and provide it in private so that the person or persons in question may see benefits of spending more time with their families or seek the services of medical professionals for the incurred stress of their occupation.
Many an aspiring Executive have often sought to use private information on those above them without realizing that advancement through defamation and slander may in fact remove some but often at the price of being seen as acting without personal integrity, professionalism or honour in their dealings.
As for the Executor, it appears he is doing a sufficient job of displaying a lack of tact and wisdom with recent decisions to offend the body corporates of the majority of CEP members that further commentary is not required by those not in a position to currently affect change.
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
2398
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Posted - 2013.04.07 12:09:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:It is only ever acceptable to question leadership if you have a better candidate to lead in mind and if the candidate has displayed that she or he would accept your support.
In a meritocracy the simplest method of doing so is to step in and do a better job yourself, of course. Well, I think the CEP have aptly demonstrated this.
Hell, Pieter, if we had to keep the position of executor, I'd vote for you or Verin. I know that's not actually how it works, but it's the thought that counts, right? Mane 614
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1318
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Posted - 2013.04.07 21:48:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:So I see the Amarrian inquisition has set up shop in The State very interesting.
News to us. Live Events are neither. |
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