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Silent Cyborg
WIFI Express
0
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Posted - 2013.04.09 02:50:00 -
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I have played eve on many a toon for many years right from beta, But now i come to the point will i continue with playing eve. Growing in eve is all about the fresh meat in the game seasoned players get lost in their neich and lost in there bubbles. i have a new player friendly corp of which lately there has been a few more recuits thanx to the better interface with recuitment. But i have noticed that the players are not sticking to the game, I spoke with many a newer player all under 6 months old and all of which have left the game, Why becuase of the changes to eve they feel that they are been ignored as some what important.
Ok Check this out:
New player comes does some resurch and wants to go go typoon, pvp autocannon neut boat. nice ship worked out a nice fit and hes been training hard. he will finnally have the skills to fly it well 4 days after the nerf, Now he has to train missile skills for tourps. cut a long story short i recived a few contracts today with all his stuff hes gone.
In fact this isnt the only case i been spoken to alot with these changes by the newer players and they are all going.
With the removal of drone poo in eve costs are going up missions pay the same, incursions cripple somepeoples missions because of lack of standings to run lvl 4 missions else where. newer players can not aford to get out the the low end ships.
All the recent changes have nerfed the hell out of solo pvp now its who has the most ships, not player skill and ability
I rember this game been Great i loved it, CCP you are killing this game slowly, if this carries on from first hand experiance of actually talking to players, and noobs, For the love of god stop these changes and fix whats actually broken, there is a list 3 miles long on the fourms, i have bug reports on toons that are 3-4 years old with the bugs still there. How about some new missions, complexs and how about clack holes that actually kill you. Space is hazardious anyway.
This suggestion is made by all the people we talk to on teamspeak:
STOP NERFING THE HELL OUT OF SHIPS, WORK ON THE STATIONS WE WANT TO WALK AROUND AND PUNCH DUST BUNNIES IN THE FACE FOR NOT DOING THERE JOB, OH YEAH WAIT GET DUST PROPERLY LINKED TO EVE SO WE CAN FUND AND CONTRACT OUT SOME WORK SO WE CAN HAVE REASONS TO HIT THEM IN THE FACE! |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1496
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Posted - 2013.04.09 02:53:00 -
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Silent Cyborg wrote:all about the fresh meat in the game seasoned... and grilled to perfection, mmmmmm! Professional bad guys were unfortunately not available so instead they sent me. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4078
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Posted - 2013.04.09 02:56:00 -
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Silent Cyborg wrote:I have played eve on many a toon for many years right from beta, But now i come to the point will i continue with playing eve. Growing in eve is all about the fresh meat in the game seasoned players get lost in their neich and lost in there bubbles. i have a new player friendly corp of which lately there has been a few more recuits thanx to the better interface with recuitment. But i have noticed that the players are not sticking to the game, I spoke with many a newer player all under 6 months old and all of which have left the game, Why becuase of the changes to eve they feel that they are been ignored as some what important.
Ok Check this out:
New player comes does some resurch and wants to go go typoon, pvp autocannon neut boat. nice ship worked out a nice fit and hes been training hard. he will finnally have the skills to fly it well 4 days after the nerf, Now he has to train missile skills for tourps. cut a long story short i recived a few contracts today with all his stuff hes gone.
In fact this isnt the only case i been spoken to alot with these changes by the newer players and they are all going.
With the removal of drone poo in eve costs are going up missions pay the same, incursions cripple somepeoples missions because of lack of standings to run lvl 4 missions else where. newer players can not aford to get out the the low end ships.
All the recent changes have nerfed the hell out of solo pvp now its who has the most ships, not player skill and ability
I rember this game been Great i loved it, CCP you are killing this game slowly, if this carries on from first hand experiance of actually talking to players, and noobs, For the love of god stop these changes and fix whats actually broken, there is a list 3 miles long on the fourms, i have bug reports on toons that are 3-4 years old with the bugs still there. How about some new missions, complexs and how about clack holes that actually kill you. Space is hazardious anyway.
This suggestion is made by all the people we talk to on teamspeak:
STOP NERFING THE HELL OUT OF SHIPS, WORK ON THE STATIONS WE WANT TO WALK AROUND AND PUNCH DUST BUNNIES IN THE FACE FOR NOT DOING THERE JOB, OH YEAH WAIT GET DUST PROPERLY LINKED TO EVE SO WE CAN FUND AND CONTRACT OUT SOME WORK SO WE CAN HAVE REASONS TO HIT THEM IN THE FACE!
Just quit now. While you can. Seriously.
EDIT: God only knows I try to read down those that make players leave the game for any reason...but please. Just leave. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Ave Kathrina
My Ass Is On Fire
36
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Posted - 2013.04.09 03:01:00 -
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Silent Cyborg wrote:
I have played eve on many a toon for many years right from beta, But now i come to the point will i continue with playing eve. Growing in eve is all about the fresh meat in the game seasoned players get lost in their neich and lost in there bubbles. i have a new player friendly corp of which lately there has been a few more recuits thanx to the better interface with recuitment. But i have noticed that the players are not sticking to the game, I spoke with many a newer player all under 6 months old and all of which have left the game, Why becuase of the changes to eve they feel that they are been ignored as some what important.
Ok Check this out:
New player comes does some resurch and wants to go go typoon, pvp autocannon neut boat. nice ship worked out a nice fit and hes been training hard. he will finnally have the skills to fly it well 4 days after the nerf, Now he has to train missile skills for tourps. cut a long story short i recived a few contracts today with all his stuff hes gone.
In fact this isnt the only case i been spoken to alot with these changes by the newer players and they are all going.
With the removal of drone poo in eve costs are going up missions pay the same, incursions cripple somepeoples missions because of lack of standings to run lvl 4 missions else where. newer players can not aford to get out the the low end ships.
All the recent changes have nerfed the hell out of solo pvp now its who has the most ships, not player skill and ability
I rember this game been Great i loved it, CCP you are killing this game slowly, if this carries on from first hand experiance of actually talking to players, and noobs, For the love of god stop these changes and fix whats actually broken, there is a list 3 miles long on the fourms, i have bug reports on toons that are 3-4 years old with the bugs still there. How about some new missions, complexs and how about clack holes that actually kill you. Space is hazardious anyway.
This suggestion is made by all the people we talk to on teamspeak:
STOP NERFING THE HELL OUT OF SHIPS, WORK ON THE STATIONS WE WANT TO WALK AROUND AND PUNCH DUST BUNNIES IN THE FACE FOR NOT DOING THERE JOB, OH YEAH WAIT GET DUST PROPERLY LINKED TO EVE SO WE CAN FUND AND CONTRACT OUT SOME WORK SO WE CAN HAVE REASONS TO HIT THEM IN THE FACE!
Engrish ist mine sekont langwage I've done some really stupid **** in this game. |
Aliventi
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
45
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Posted - 2013.04.09 03:05:00 -
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Costs are going up, but the price of the goods is set by the people themselves. Yes, drone poo and missions no longer dropping t1 loot is making is somewhat harder to acquire enough materials to build ships. However the rebalance to the mining barges and exhumers are making acquiring materials through mining even easier and more efficient then ever. The price of ships will go down as more and more minerals are piled in to the market through afk and bot miners. Give it time. Things will be back to normal in a year or so. |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1592
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Posted - 2013.04.09 03:12:00 -
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Silent Cyborg wrote:WORK ON THE STATIONS WE WANT TO WALK AROUND AND PUNCH DUST BUNNIES IN THE FACE FOR NOT DOING THERE JOB, OH YEAH WAIT GET DUST PROPERLY LINKED TO EVE SO WE CAN FUND AND CONTRACT OUT SOME WORK SO WE CAN HAVE REASONS TO HIT THEM IN THE FACE! lol... these are some of the absolute LAST things most people want CCP to work on...
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Raiz Nhell
Kangaroo Ate my baby Orchestrated Alliance
251
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Posted - 2013.04.09 03:41:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Silent Cyborg wrote:WORK ON THE STATIONS WE WANT TO WALK AROUND AND PUNCH DUST BUNNIES IN THE FACE FOR NOT DOING THERE JOB, OH YEAH WAIT GET DUST PROPERLY LINKED TO EVE SO WE CAN FUND AND CONTRACT OUT SOME WORK SO WE CAN HAVE REASONS TO HIT THEM IN THE FACE! lol... these are some of the absolute LAST things most people want CCP to work on...
Why do so many people want to walk when we have spaceships, in a universe full of spaceships, in a game based around spaceships???
It'd be like forking out the money Need For Speed and complaining that you can't build a your own house with Sims in it...
Its like buying Flight Simulator and getting all the third party controls, then whinging that you can't drive a car to the plane...
Let CCP do the job that we pay them for, working on spaceships... in a internet spaceship game...
If you wanna walk around, peel yourself off the seat and walk to the kitchen... for real authenticity, get someone to lock you in the house and take the TV remote so you can't get out or change the channel.
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Bane Veradun
Black Sun Dawning
12
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Posted - 2013.04.09 03:50:00 -
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Space barbies are in the past, OP. Perhaps you should instead train Engrish past Level 2? A lion that needs his prey to lay down in front of him, is no lion at all. He's a pet. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
153
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Posted - 2013.04.09 03:54:00 -
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So you hate change, too!? |
Noir Nana
Tamagatchi Funland
12
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Posted - 2013.04.09 03:58:00 -
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People talking about EVE dying, funny enough some of my students told me that some of their friends recently picked up the game and are enjoying it immensely. |
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Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Tribal Band
658
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Posted - 2013.04.09 03:59:00 -
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Most entertaining OP of the month so far. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |
Ereilian
Over The Horizon
5
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Posted - 2013.04.09 04:00:00 -
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With who is leading the new Team Nerf Non Alphafleet, and the destruction of racial distinctions .. nah EVE is not dying. What it is doing is dumbing down to the lowest common denominator. |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
436
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Posted - 2013.04.09 04:04:00 -
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Raiz Nhell wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Silent Cyborg wrote:WORK ON THE STATIONS WE WANT TO WALK AROUND AND PUNCH DUST BUNNIES IN THE FACE FOR NOT DOING THERE JOB, OH YEAH WAIT GET DUST PROPERLY LINKED TO EVE SO WE CAN FUND AND CONTRACT OUT SOME WORK SO WE CAN HAVE REASONS TO HIT THEM IN THE FACE! lol... these are some of the absolute LAST things most people want CCP to work on... Why do so many people want to walk when we have spaceships, in a universe full of spaceships, in a game based around spaceships??? It'd be like forking out the money Need For Speed and complaining that you can't build a your own house with Sims in it... Its like buying Flight Simulator and getting all the third party controls, then whinging that you can't drive a car to the plane... Let CCP do the job that we pay them for, working on spaceships... in a internet spaceship game... If you wanna walk around, peel yourself off the seat and walk to the kitchen... for real authenticity, get someone to lock you in the house and take the TV remote so you can't get out or change the channel.
This would make sense if CCP hasn't REPEATEDLY stated that they want EVE to be the ULTIMATE sci fi simulator.
If you want to be the end all be all of sci fi games, you need full avatar game play.
Otherwise, you are just the ultimate spaceship game. "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics CODE.
724
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Posted - 2013.04.09 04:07:00 -
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I read the whole OP, honestly couldn't figure out what the hell he was going on about. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2295
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Posted - 2013.04.09 04:09:00 -
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Silent Cyborg wrote:STOP NERFING THE HELL OUT OF SHIPS, WORK ON THE STATIONS WE WANT TO WALK AROUND AND PUNCH DUST BUNNIES IN THE FACE FOR NOT DOING THERE JOB, OH YEAH WAIT GET DUST PROPERLY LINKED TO EVE SO WE CAN FUND AND CONTRACT OUT SOME WORK SO WE CAN HAVE REASONS TO HIT THEM IN THE FACE!
No . |
Raiz Nhell
Kangaroo Ate my baby Orchestrated Alliance
251
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Posted - 2013.04.09 04:13:00 -
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Silent Cyborg wrote:STOP NERFING THE HELL OUT OF SHIPS, WORK ON THE STATIONS WE WANT TO WALK AROUND AND PUNCH DUST BUNNIES IN THE FACE FOR NOT DOING THERE JOB, OH YEAH WAIT GET DUST PROPERLY LINKED TO EVE SO WE CAN FUND AND CONTRACT OUT SOME WORK SO WE CAN HAVE REASONS TO HIT THEM IN THE FACE!
And why do I need to stoop to the Dust bunnies level and punch him... Punching Dust Bunnies is best done from orbit... There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1467
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Posted - 2013.04.09 04:18:00 -
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Silent Cyborg wrote:wants to go go typoon
inspectorgadgetphoon? Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |
Le Verrier
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.04.09 04:26:00 -
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You said toon. |
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
247
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Posted - 2013.04.09 04:29:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:
This would make sense if CCP hasn't REPEATEDLY stated that they want EVE to be the ULTIMATE sci fi simulator.
If you want to be the end all be all of sci fi games, you need full avatar game play.
Otherwise, you are just the ultimate spaceship game.
^this guy gets it. Whether you like it or not, the argument "eve has always been this way so it should always be this way" isn't valid because the premise in no way necessitates the conclusion.
@OP: dude, sounds like "special snowflake" syndrome. Just because someone doesn't like the game doesn't mean the game is the problem. Too much entitlement, not enough justification. If someone can't be bothered to apply creativity and problem solving to this game, they can't be surprised they're not as well-off as someone else who did, regardless of age.
And what is the solution to training for a nerfed ship? Reimburse? "I trained skills that don't give me the effect I want" is hardly a justification. Halt rebalancing? Gawd this is a waste of time. Not everyone will like this game, the difference is whether they leave because the game has problems or because they just don't like it, any part of it (combat mechanics, culture, skill training, loss, etc.). There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |
Haulie Berry
357
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Posted - 2013.04.09 04:37:00 -
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A few thoughts:
1. A change is not the same as a nerf. The typhoon is being changed. It seems pretty unlikely that that change will really constitute a nerf.
2. Why would you let your new-player friend do something as absurd as train specifically for ABC ship using XYZ fit? Especially the Typhoon, which was been classically regarded as the single most skillpoint intensive battleship in the game? |
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2384
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Posted - 2013.04.09 05:01:00 -
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Dammnit Karl... Now I'm hungry... |
Sharon Anne
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.04.09 05:12:00 -
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Ave Kathrina wrote:Silent Cyborg wrote:
I have played eve on many a toon for many years ... HIT THEM IN THE FACE!
Engrish ist mine sekont langwage
Naw more like its American Urban. |
Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
581
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Posted - 2013.04.09 05:39:00 -
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Come on people this man need help. lets help that man. We can talk in 0.0 sec and deal with the matter? you agree on that? Come visit me there and we can "talk" about your problem with eve. O iam rude know ? No i just to damn easy to trick people you fail that for the first time how hard the game can be but thats not hard thats stupid. This game is not recommend for every player. Keep a open mind read allot ask help so many way to let you relaxs the game on your way. |
Anunzi
High House Of Shadows Tribal Band
83
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Posted - 2013.04.09 07:17:00 -
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Silent Cyborg wrote:
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STOP NERFING THE HELL OUT OF SHIPS, WORK ON THE STATIONS WE WANT TO WALK AROUND AND PUNCH DUST BUNNIES IN THE FACE FOR NOT DOING THERE JOB, OH YEAH WAIT GET DUST PROPERLY LINKED TO EVE SO WE CAN FUND AND CONTRACT OUT SOME WORK SO WE CAN HAVE REASONS TO HIT THEM IN THE FACE!
You seem to have made a mistake here. YouGÇÖve written GÇ£weGÇ¥ where you quite clearly mean GÇ£IGÇ¥.
Malcanis for CSM8, Its about damn time.
A vote for Malcanis is a vote for bacon! |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1096
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Posted - 2013.04.09 07:17:00 -
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All the tears |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
2341
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Posted - 2013.04.09 07:29:00 -
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Silent Cyborg wrote:
This suggestion is made by all the people we talk to on teamspeak:
STOP NERFING THE HELL OUT OF SHIPS, WORK ON THE STATIONS WE WANT TO WALK AROUND AND PUNCH DUST BUNNIES IN THE FACE FOR NOT DOING THERE JOB, OH YEAH WAIT GET DUST PROPERLY LINKED TO EVE SO WE CAN FUND AND CONTRACT OUT SOME WORK SO WE CAN HAVE REASONS TO HIT THEM IN THE FACE!
This is the only part of the OPs whine I agree with.
Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3124
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Posted - 2013.04.09 07:29:00 -
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Dismissed for bad punctuation, which is independent of the knowledge of a language.
Quote:- But now i come to the point will i continue with playing eve. - - fresh meat in the game seasoned players get lost in their neich - - all of which have left the game, Why becuase of the changes -
These are just three examples. You lack intelligence.
Go away. |
Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
831
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Posted - 2013.04.09 08:04:00 -
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I heard that the Phoon with ACs is awesome and completely outperforms a Tempest, oh wait no it doesn't. OP is an idiot. Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything.
Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
944
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:12:00 -
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Silent Cyborg wrote: All the recent changes have nerfed the hell out of solo pvp now its who has the most ships, not player skill and ability
Welcome to 5 years ago ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
196
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:33:00 -
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Silent Cyborg wrote:cut a long story short i recived a few contracts today with all his stuff hes gone. it's working as intended |
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