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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.04.12 09:03:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Dude, your eye.
Grateful fellow Monocleers purchased it for me.
The bruise from shoving it in is taking a remarkably long time to heal. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.04.12 09:05:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Xen Solarus wrote:You'd be better off spamming local in Empire than yet another thread telling people to vote. It's all the carebears that don't even visit the forum that you should be looking to convince. part of me hopes they don't vote. have you noticed most of the dumb ideas that pop up on the forums are from high sec players and/or npc alts? not that null sec players don't occasionally come up with stupid ideas, but not so nearly as frequently as high sec players. That's mainly because they use their high-sec alts and npc-corp alts to post them, lest they reflect badly on their image in the alliance hierarchy.
fair point. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.04.12 09:08:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Xen Solarus wrote:You'd be better off spamming local in Empire than yet another thread telling people to vote. It's all the carebears that don't even visit the forum that you should be looking to convince. part of me hopes they don't vote. have you noticed most of the dumb ideas that pop up on the forums are from high sec players and/or npc alts? not that null sec players don't occasionally come up with stupid ideas, but not so nearly as frequently as high sec players. That's mainly because they use their high-sec alts and npc-corp alts to post them, lest they reflect badly on their image in the alliance hierarchy.
A delightfully unfalsifiable assertion. Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere
My recommended voting list |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:10:00 -
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Nice attempt at reverse psychology. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:14:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:dark heartt wrote:Null needs representation at the moment. I don't live there and even I can see that. Hell I'm a "carebear" and I can see that. NULL has had overwelming representation the past 3 CSM's.... why's it now different then the last 3 years ( or does NULL need more representation every moment?) ? It sure didn't save us from Incarna When was the Incarna project started? (Hint, not during the last 3 CSMs) Oh and CSM 5 was hardly "overwhelmingly nullsec". When compared to CSM 7, I would say that it was. Not that that is really saying anything. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:21:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Oh, I almost forgot: and yet I want CCP to perform some tweaks (or as some tryhard sperg'll loudly whine about if given half a chance, nerfs, which will KILL HISEC/THE GAME (because, of course, any nerf to hisec will kill hisec/the game)) to hisec to pave the way for much more interesting gameplay changes in null.
And let's not forget the sov system. And the POS reaction UI. Yes it is a well know fact that any idea voiced from Null sec will:
- Be bad for the game
- Cause people to unsub
- Give to much income to those people in Null sec
- Expand the big blue donut
- Kill the rainforest
- Murder the whales
- Send the Earth spiraling into the sun.
So with these facts you can see why so many Hi-sec people vote, and why it is imperative more voices are heard.
Like anyone that hasn't already voted or has decided not to vote, will read this
Apathetic towards the forums and voting.
We need a badge for the forums for people who don't vote, so we can get a year telling them "STFU, this is your fault. You didn't vote" Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:29:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:We need a badge for the forums for people who don't vote, so we can get a year telling them "STFU, this is your fault. You didn't vote"
this! |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:38:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:This is the last weekend of the CSM8 elections if you don't vote you are effectively the reason those that did vote will have more say then you did will. With the way game mechanics forces those in NULL to have to organize to survive means they'll have an overwelming organizational advatage even though the majority of Eve does live in HI SEC, then NULL then LO SEC then WH's ( I'm not sure but WH population may be overtaking lo soon if trends continue, guess we'll see what Dr E says @ Fanfest if the demographics are still the same or WH's have overtaken lo population after the FW nerf) .
Voter apathy is part & parcel to the game mainly due to mechanics which naturally fragment the largest populations of EVE but still it doesn't have to mean CSM's votes have to only garner <20% of the electorate to vote. Do yourself a favor & vote even if its only for 1 or 2 slots & not the whole 14 slate.
Made me giggle :)
Unless somehow a large % of Eve players first bothered to visit these forums, then bothered to read your post, then bothered to read all about the CSM to see what its all about, then bothered to read up on each candidate and then finally decide to vote, it still most likely still wont make any difference and those who have alliance backing will still get their seat on the CSM
They always have and always will.
The only good thing about the CSM is that it can make for slightly more interesting forum threads and that's about it.. oh yeah it also made kittens upset and showed a lot of people that Michael Bolton really really really needs to get laid.. (not necessary with a woman, just with something, anything, please for god sakes somebody get this man laid) |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Caldari Industrialist Association
74
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:41:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Lets face it: NOT VOTING IN CSM8 IS A VOTE FOR NULL SEC BLOCKS. I am confused. Where does that leave me?
I voted and one of my choices was Malcanis and another was a member of the Goonswarm Federation.
Obviously I am evil for voting for someone from the null sec block, especially the demonic Goonswarm, but would I have been less evil if I hadn't voted?
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:43:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:This is the last weekend of the CSM8 elections if you don't vote you are effectively the reason those that did vote will have more say then you did will. With the way game mechanics forces those in NULL to have to organize to survive means they'll have an overwelming organizational advatage even though the majority of Eve does live in HI SEC, then NULL then LO SEC then WH's ( I'm not sure but WH population may be overtaking lo soon if trends continue, guess we'll see what Dr E says @ Fanfest if the demographics are still the same or WH's have overtaken lo population after the FW nerf) .
Voter apathy is part & parcel to the game mainly due to mechanics which naturally fragment the largest populations of EVE but still it doesn't have to mean CSM's votes have to only garner <20% of the electorate to vote. Do yourself a favor & vote even if its only for 1 or 2 slots & not the whole 14 slate. Made me giggle :) Unless somehow a large % of Eve players first bothered to visit these forums, then bothered to read your post, then bothered to read all about the CSM to see what its all about, then bothered to read up on each candidate and then finally decide to vote, it still most likely still wont make any difference and those who have alliance backing will still get their seat on the CSM They always have and always will. Always is a very long time.
Anyway a massively Null dominated CSM that actually gets Null fixed would not be a bad thing as the trickle down effect, would also effect wormholes and Lo-sec. On top of that if Hi-sec got a few nerfs the apathetic bastards might vote next year, especially if they had the fact, it was their fault for not voting rubbed into their face for a year. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:44:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Lets face it: NOT VOTING IN CSM8 IS A VOTE FOR NULL SEC BLOCKS. I am confused. Where does that leave me? I voted and one of my choices was Malcanis and another was a member of the Goonswarm Federation. Obviously I am evil for voting for someone from the null sec block, especially the demonic Goonswarm, but would I have been less evil if I hadn't voted? Yes, your soul will burn in hell for all eternity but your eternal punishment will be less than what the apathetic get.
Thank you for voting. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:47:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Lets face it: NOT VOTING IN CSM8 IS A VOTE FOR NULL SEC BLOCKS. I am confused. Where does that leave me? I voted and one of my choices was Malcanis and another was a member of the Goonswarm Federation. Obviously I am evil for voting for someone from the null sec block, especially the demonic Goonswarm, but would I have been less evil if I hadn't voted?
It's OK to vote for candidates from null-sec blocs if that's what you choose to do. I believe Mr Nefarius' point is that those who are not voting at all shouldn't kid themselves as to what the practical effect will be. Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere
My recommended voting list |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:52:00 -
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i think people underestimate some of the null sec candidates. |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Caldari Industrialist Association
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:53:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Lets face it: NOT VOTING IN CSM8 IS A VOTE FOR NULL SEC BLOCKS. I am confused. Where does that leave me? I voted and one of my choices was Malcanis and another was a member of the Goonswarm Federation. Obviously I am evil for voting for someone from the null sec block, especially the demonic Goonswarm, but would I have been less evil if I hadn't voted? Yes, your soul will burn in hell for all eternity but your eternal punishment will be less than what the apathetic get. Thank you for voting.
If I am going to hell, I would prefer to get there on my own merits... or lack thereof. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.12 11:09:00 -
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Voting for null sec candidates doesn't mean bad things will happen, it actually means you're voting for people with a keen understand of game mechanics and will stop CCP doing bad things and hopefully get them to do good things like POS revision, income changes, ship balancing etc. Things that affect all areas of EVE.
You guys should take off the tin foil hats and look at the candidates objectively and realise that historically speaking, apart from Darius III, null sec block candidates on the CSM have been a positive influence.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.12 11:11:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Lets face it: NOT VOTING IN CSM8 IS A VOTE FOR NULL SEC BLOCKS. I am confused. Where does that leave me? I voted and one of my choices was Malcanis and another was a member of the Goonswarm Federation. Obviously I am evil for voting for someone from the null sec block, especially the demonic Goonswarm, but would I have been less evil if I hadn't voted? Yes, your soul will burn in hell for all eternity but your eternal punishment will be less than what the apathetic get. Thank you for voting. If I am going to hell, I would prefer to get there on my own merits... or lack thereof. You are damned if you do or very damned if you don't.
These are your own choices and therefore merits. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.12 11:14:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote: Voting for null sec candidates doesn't mean bad things will happen, it actually means you're voting for people with a keen understand of game mechanics and will stop CCP doing bad things and hopefully get them to do good things like POS revision, income changes, ship balancing etc. Things that affect all areas of EVE.
You guys should take off the tin foil hats and look at the candidates objectively and realise that historically speaking, apart from Darius III, null sec block candidates on the CSM have been a positive influence.
Listen to the propaganda.
It is a well known fact that Null CSM candidates sacrifice virgins at every Summit. Thankfully there are many of these to be found in another game, known as World of Virgins, sorry thats Warcraft.
Besides this Null sec candidates would have to propose buffs to Hi-sec for the next 10 years just to make up for Darius III. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2013.04.12 11:20:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:It is a well known fact that Null CSM candidates sacrifice virgins at every Summit. I postulate that we do not sacrifice ourselves, therefore this statement is at best only partially true. :colbert: Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
RIP Vile Rat |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Caldari Industrialist Association
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Posted - 2013.04.12 11:25:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote: Voting for null sec candidates doesn't mean bad things will happen, it actually means you're voting for people with a keen understand of game mechanics and will stop CCP doing bad things and hopefully get them to do good things like POS revision, income changes, ship balancing etc. Things that affect all areas of EVE.
You guys should take off the tin foil hats and look at the candidates objectively and realise that historically speaking, apart from Darius III, null sec block candidates on the CSM have been a positive influence.
..., but I got my hat as a bonus when I signed up!
I don't think they can stop CCP, but many of those candidates do have knowledge. CCP might be willing to listen. But, they will only listen to CSM reps that are smart, have a larger vision of Eve, and can converse with CCP. A number of 0.0 candidates have those traits.
It goes without saying that they are all 'evil', but you can't have everything in a rep.
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Kelby
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Posted - 2013.04.12 11:38:00 -
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I would only vote if there was an option to disband the CSM for good. |
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Lord Zim
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Posted - 2013.04.12 11:42:00 -
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The nullsec candidates thank you for your vote. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
RIP Vile Rat |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
876
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Posted - 2013.04.12 16:27:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:i think people underestimate some of the null sec candidates.
TBH I like a few of the NULL SEC candidates... but I do feel like the system's rigged like the old Chicago political manchine where I see some carpet bagger Alderman representing my district in Southside Projects yet he lives in Barrington Hills. Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 slot 1, Mike Azariah slot 2 Disclaimer: CCP Bias is a fictional character. In case that some CCP Bias does exist,-áis he an "ex"-Goon? |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.12 16:29:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:[quote=knobber Jobbler] Besides this Null sec candidates would have to propose buffs to Hi-sec for the next 10 years just to make up for Darius III.
You can be rest assured that he only got in because his alliance got everyone to vote for him. Blame Brick Squad and whatever terrible coalition they were in at the time. I don't think you would have caught anyone outside that lot voting for him. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
876
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Posted - 2013.04.12 16:34:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Last I checked, CSM 5 was the one that made us go "hey, wait a minute, this is bullshit" and get involved, because that CSM was making recommendations for changes which were made from ignorance on how nullsec works, and which were actively detrimental to nullsec. It might be better to say that the nullsec people who were in CSM 5 had a different vision of sov 0.0 Luckily, the political meta has advanced somewhat since then.
Hmm looking at NULL reps in CSM 6,7,&8 then and what is happening in NULL now their vision was tinted deep blue? Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 slot 1, Mike Azariah slot 2 Disclaimer: CCP Bias is a fictional character. In case that some CCP Bias does exist,-áis he an "ex"-Goon? |
Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.12 18:22:00 -
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Also the best way to stick it to the ~nullbears~ is to vote for Frying Doom's list, which totally doesn't have the five wormhole bloc candidates on top |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.04.12 18:26:00 -
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I will vote when they provide the option X "None of the Above"
And until they put the voting interface in game, they will never get the general population to vote.....
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.12 18:35:00 -
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dark heartt wrote:Null needs representation at the moment. I don't live there and even I can see that. Hell I'm a "carebear" and I can see that.
Null has had representation....continuously. It's not the rest of our faults that CCP listens to their horrible ideas. HTFU!...for the children! |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
877
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Posted - 2013.04.12 19:31:00 -
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Let's bring back Ankhesentapemkah so that HI SEC has a controversal candidate to vote for again Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 slot 1, Mike Azariah slot 2 Disclaimer: CCP Bias is a fictional character. In case that some CCP Bias does exist,-áis he an "ex"-Goon? |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.12 20:23:00 -
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I agree, damn it!!! So everyone, go vote for the null blockers who PAY YOU the most for your vote!! "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
878
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:01:00 -
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<-------- wearing a tinfoil hat
Xander April 12, 2013 at 9:11 AM wrote:
(snip)
Anyway yes, as I recently blogged (along with Poetic and James315 yesterday coincidentaly - fools seldom differ?) CCP's promotional push for this year's election has been a joke. I expected much, much more after what Dolan and Fozzie both promised me in recent weeks on CZ podcasts.
I guess I could make some tinfoilhattery comment like CCP isn't advertising/educating most EVE so NULL folks get a bigger say in the CSM8 but I won't. I do have a sneaking suspicion that marketing isn't being involved in promoting the CSM due to DUST pushes & Fanfest push furthermore CSM is going to have thier work cut out because CCP is treating it like a red headed stepchild and isn't worth the ROI anymore.
I hope I'm wrong but I think we'll have the worst voter turnout % in recent history... & with the last weekend of voting here & little discussion about the candidates I think apathy is deafening. I suspect that voter numbers may be about equal to last years numbers but since Eve supposedly has grown to over 400k this will really be a net loss percentage wise Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 slot 1, Mike Azariah slot 2 Disclaimer: CCP Bias is a fictional character. In case that some CCP Bias does exist,-áis he an "ex"-Goon? |
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