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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:10:00 -
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Our Reservists normally drill one weekend a month, plus two contiguous weeks a year. That's about enough to keep a coarse edge on, not to keep 'em at full fighting trim.
The Guard has a simiilar schedule, but is more of a civil defesne force with military capabilities than a military force with civil defense capabilities, if you get my drift.
The majority of Guard calls-out are for things like storm cleanup, flooding, etc. Indeed, the Guard barely played any role in Desert Storm because so many units had been gutted by corruption or apathy. Some few units were ready to go, most were not. That got FULL the attention of the Army IG, and when Iraqi Freedom came along, things were much better - and a number of people had been relieved for cause, or retired involuntarily, or had gone to prison. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:15:00 -
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The Green Civic may've belonged to one of teh brothers.
The Watertown search is only about 70% done yet - hence the extention. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:22:00 -
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If you want an idea of the goegraphic spread of last night's festivities, look here: http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/04/us/boston-marathon-terror-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
Seeing the complicated sequence gives you a better idea of how the police were being whip-sawed about and over how large a geographic region. At each instance, a new time-lag is inserted as the report is assimilated, understood, directions issued, and responses undertaken. As long as the suspects were moving fast, police had no time to catch up - they were, through no fault of their own, 'behind the eightball' most of the early part of the night. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:30:00 -
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I haven't been keeping up for the last 4 pages because you guys starting going into other territories, but I see that ones down and the other is still being hunted.
I'm posting though because I can't help but notice msn's conspiracy theory title to one of their articles:
Bombing suspect on the run became US citizen last year on Sept. 11
Is that really even important information? Also is it me that is perhaps reading into that too much?
Edit: By the way, I read that article earlier and it originally was titled something like: Uncle wanted them away from family. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:35:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:I haven't been keeping up for the last 4 pages because you guys starting going into other territories, but I see that ones down and the other is still being hunted.
I'm posting though because I can't help but notice msn's conspiracy theory title to one of their article:
Bombing suspect on the run became US citizen last year on Sept. 11
Is that really even important information? Also is it me that is perhaps reading into that too much?
It makes a good story. I dont want to read too much into it, down that way madness lies.
Im sure their pc hds will reveal all kinds of stuff for conspiracy nuts to go crazy over. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"Something I don't say very often: The welshman is right." - Marcus Gord |
Rain6639
Team Evil
270
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:37:00 -
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let's just say perfect PT scores are exceptional even in active duty units.
at one point in 2011, half the Army was in non-deployable medical status. EDM? you mean EFM |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1369
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:52:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:I haven't been keeping up for the last 4 pages because you guys starting going into other territories, but I see that ones down and the other is still being hunted.
I'm posting though because I can't help but notice msn's conspiracy theory title to one of their articles:
Bombing suspect on the run became US citizen last year on Sept. 11
Is that really even important information? Also is it me that is perhaps reading into that too much?
Edit: By the way, I read that article earlier and it originally was titled something like: Uncle wanted them away from family. Yeah, it's a teaser headline, to entice views with irrelevent information. We discussed it briefly a couple pages ago, and my basic take on it is "So what? Sept 11, Dec 7, and July 4 are all popular days for swearing-in."
We have wandered about a bit, as the immediacy of the action is taking a backseat to the slower, methodical process now on-going.
Rain6639 wrote:let's just say perfect PT scores are exceptional even in active duty units.
at one point in 2011, half the Army was in non-deployable medical status. THAT is scary.
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Rain6639
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:03:00 -
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yep. it was a range of things, from 2 week profiles to more chronic issues, but basically... 50% of total strength EDM? you mean EFM |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1370
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:05:00 -
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Wow.
If I'd have been SecDef, I'd have been out kicking asses 12 hours a day (that's how to get your PT done!). Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:07:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Graygor wrote:I'm willing to give the police the benefit of the doubt if there were indeed explosives used etc.
My question is, where was the police chopper? Well, this exactly. Tin Foil Hat: Event is thus 'extended' to see if a "Lockdown Experiment" would actually work. (They needed an excuse).
Lockdown Experiment
This is a joke, right?
A friend of mine said.. "It's simple, one doesn't leave if one is not finished. That's why they didn't leave, I suspect the story is just warming up. I hope I'm wrong."
Residents in and around Boston have heard explosions. Suspect 1 has wounds that are believed to be result of explosives. They had that innocent guy strip down for a reason. Information the carjacked guy provided. One dead cop.. another seriously injured. Explosives. High velocity shrapnel type explosives have been used by these suspects.
This isn't the 'norm' and shouldn't be treated like it is. Many more people are going to be happy about a lockdown that protects them.. rather than let them out and about, exposed to potential explosions.. I repeat BOMBS. Let alone gun fire. Come on, man. Not too mention how much easier it would be to locate this terrorist under these conditions. Some one who stuck around in the city, perhaps for a reason to do more.. given they had more explosives.
Lockdown Experiment and magical helicopters. Holy hell....
Fear. The Media does a really good job of promoting fear.. this is why many governments/law enforcement agencies do not give out certain information. It would promote additional Fear. On top of this.. you got the conspiracy theorist adding fuel to the fire with additional fear-promoting fodder by flinging the evil government and the biased news organizations.. into the mix. Everyone else is to blame for all this anarchy.. special butterfly is safe in mental cocoon weaved by truths of an untethered mind set free of oppression. BLAH! How are you any different than the media flinging words out, with no crediable backing?
Conspiracy theories leads to fear.. leads to blame.. leads to.. 'something drastic needs to be done about this...'
Stop promoting Terror or this bullshit will never, ever end. Bring real substance in a civil manner, please people. I will say.. I'm surprised how civil and relaxed this thread has stayed over 14 pages. -áUme-Pro Studios |
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Rain6639
Team Evil
271
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:13:00 -
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there was a crackdown on unit-level issued profiles
I saw it as an issue of people not having overcome discomfort.
break through the mental pain barrier and that's when things start happening.. for the better, I mean. physical capabilities-wise.
I used to tell privates that "pain is just a check engine light [ignore it like I know you do on your car]." EDM? you mean EFM |
Alara IonStorm
4910
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:34:00 -
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Umega wrote: Lockdown Experiment
This is a joke, right?
A friend of mine said.. "It's simple, one doesn't leave if one is not finished. That's why they didn't leave, I suspect the story is just warming up. I hope I'm wrong."
Residents in and around Boston have heard explosions. Suspect 1 has wounds that are believed to be result of explosives. They had that innocent guy strip down for a reason. Information the carjacked guy provided. One dead cop.. another seriously injured. Explosives. High velocity shrapnel type explosives have been used by these suspects.
This isn't the 'norm' and shouldn't be treated like it is. Many more people are going to be happy about a lockdown that protects them.. rather than let them out and about, exposed to potential explosions.. I repeat BOMBS. Let alone gun fire. Come on, man. Not too mention how much easier it would be to locate this terrorist under these conditions. Some one who stuck around in the city, perhaps for a reason to do more.. given they had more explosives.
Lockdown Experiment and magical helicopters. Holy hell....
Fear. The Media does a really good job of promoting fear.. this is why many governments/law enforcement agencies do not give out certain information. It would promote additional Fear. On top of this.. you got the conspiracy theorist adding fuel to the fire with additional fear-promoting fodder by flinging the evil government and the biased news organizations.. into the mix. Everyone else is to blame for all this anarchy.. special butterfly is safe in mental cocoon weaved by truths of an untethered mind set free of oppression. BLAH! How are you any different than the media flinging words out, with no crediable backing?
Conspiracy theories leads to fear.. leads to blame.. leads to.. 'something drastic needs to be done about this...'
Stop promoting Terror or this bullshit will never, ever end. Bring real substance in a civil manner, please people. I will say.. I'm surprised how civil and relaxed this thread has stayed over 14 pages.
4 Days ago I made this post.
Alara IonStorm wrote:Notice how every single time something happens in the world there is what happens and there is the "truth". Everything, everything has a cause that is "not the official story" everything. That cause is always the same.
* The government or secret one world government. * Rich people plotting genocide and dictatorship. * Evil special interests. * Aliens.
By the way it is never one of those per event, there is a version of each for every one. If you don't believe it you are sheep or sheeple or in their evil pocket or just don't "get it".
I get that there are some conspiracies in the world, I know of quite a few proven ones like MKUltra and the Business Plot. I am sure their are a few going on right now but everything that happens is always blamed on some super global web filled with thousands of conspirators plotting the over throw of governments and have plans to turn the world into that torture state from 1984.
Just once I would like something big to happen and everyone be like "Wow that is obviously exactly what happened. I've taken the time to look over all the evidence and it seems obvious that, that is what happened." I don't even need to try and prove it right, it just is.
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2013.04.20 00:43:00 -
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They got him. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |
Sobach
Fourth Circle
109
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Posted - 2013.04.20 00:49:00 -
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about fking time I say. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10399
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Posted - 2013.04.20 01:06:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:They got him.
Sources?
:Trollface: "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Sonic Slayer
Guardian Heroes Inc. Gunmen of the Apocalypse
2
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Posted - 2013.04.20 01:38:00 -
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The PERFECT song of the day is: I'm on a boat |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1604
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Posted - 2013.04.20 01:48:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:They got him. Sources? :Trollface:
YARRBLARGELLLLLLLL
SMACKSMACKSMACKDERPDERPDERP
oh wait, here it is right here. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10401
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Posted - 2013.04.20 04:03:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:They got him. Sources? :Trollface: YARRBLARGELLLLLLLL SMACKSMACKSMACKDERPDERPDERP oh wait, here it is right here.
Damn that must have been hard to find "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
22774
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Posted - 2013.04.20 04:15:00 -
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I for one am happy they got him alive.
Now we can get a lot of details about what the hell they were thinking.
Also i can see this becoming a meme really soon. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
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Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance
290
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Posted - 2013.04.20 04:22:00 -
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One of the first things that came to mind for me while watching the news was a distinct lack of bloodhounds looking for him.
I mean, it was known he fled on foot. Also known was where he lived. How hard is it to have a bloodhound sniff clothing from his hamper, sniff his bed and pillow, and follow a trail from where he was last known to have left the vehicle he was last in and fled on foot?
Bloodhounds have been used for hundreds of years and they're exceedingly effective. The only thing that comes to mind is that the authorities may have made some bizarre decision not to use hounds for the fear of setting off a fundy like him with a ritually "unclean" animal.
Really, I'd have thought bloodhounds would be standard operating procedure in a situation of a manhunt for a suspect on foot. Instead we got treated to Benny Hill style frantic rushing around in Humvees, squad cars, and SWAT trucks chasing ghosts around for a dude who was quite obviously just hiding out somewhere. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |
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Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
22774
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Posted - 2013.04.20 04:31:00 -
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Additional arrests made in New Bedford according to this. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"Something I don't say very often: The welshman is right." - Marcus Gord |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance
290
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Posted - 2013.04.20 06:06:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Additional arrests made in New Bedford according to this. I've heard they could have just been taken into custody as witnesses. Not because they've committed acts of wrongdoing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1373
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Posted - 2013.04.20 11:09:00 -
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Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:One of the first things that came to mind for me while watching the news was a distinct lack of bloodhounds looking for him.
I mean, it was known he fled on foot. Also known was where he lived. How hard is it to have a bloodhound sniff clothing from his hamper, sniff his bed and pillow, and follow a trail from where he was last known to have left the vehicle he was last in and fled on foot?
Bloodhounds have been used for hundreds of years and they're exceedingly effective. The only thing that comes to mind is that the authorities may have made some bizarre decision not to use hounds for the fear of setting off a fundy like him with a ritually "unclean" animal.
Really, I'd have thought bloodhounds would be standard operating procedure in a situation of a manhunt for a suspect on foot. Instead we got treated to Benny Hill style frantic rushing around in Humvees, squad cars, and SWAT trucks chasing ghosts around for a dude who was quite obviously just hiding out somewhere. Bloodhounds are awesome, no doubt. They're also increasingly scarce - Not over all, but LEO-trained bloodhound/handler teams are a lot fewer than they used to be. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Zimmy Zeta
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.20 11:13:00 -
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Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:One of the first things that came to mind for me while watching the news was a distinct lack of bloodhounds looking for him.
I mean, it was known he fled on foot. Also known was where he lived. How hard is it to have a bloodhound sniff clothing from his hamper, sniff his bed and pillow, and follow a trail from where he was last known to have left the vehicle he was last in and fled on foot?
Bloodhounds have been used for hundreds of years and they're exceedingly effective. The only thing that comes to mind is that the authorities may have made some bizarre decision not to use hounds for the fear of setting off a fundy like him with a ritually "unclean" animal.
Really, I'd have thought bloodhounds would be standard operating procedure in a situation of a manhunt for a suspect on foot. Instead we got treated to Benny Hill style frantic rushing around in Humvees, squad cars, and SWAT trucks chasing ghosts around for a dude who was quite obviously just hiding out somewhere.
He was driving in a car, not sure if bloodhounds can track cars.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1374
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Posted - 2013.04.20 11:20:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:One of the first things that came to mind for me while watching the news was a distinct lack of bloodhounds looking for him.
I mean, it was known he fled on foot. Also known was where he lived. How hard is it to have a bloodhound sniff clothing from his hamper, sniff his bed and pillow, and follow a trail from where he was last known to have left the vehicle he was last in and fled on foot?
Bloodhounds have been used for hundreds of years and they're exceedingly effective. The only thing that comes to mind is that the authorities may have made some bizarre decision not to use hounds for the fear of setting off a fundy like him with a ritually "unclean" animal.
Really, I'd have thought bloodhounds would be standard operating procedure in a situation of a manhunt for a suspect on foot. Instead we got treated to Benny Hill style frantic rushing around in Humvees, squad cars, and SWAT trucks chasing ghosts around for a dude who was quite obviously just hiding out somewhere. He was driving in a car, not sure if bloodhounds can track cars. Actually, they have - in one case, a bloodhound tracked a kidnap victim for miles down a highway. They lost the track after some confused secondary road maneuvers. When the victim was found (dead) she was less than a quarter mile from where the track was lost - more than 20 miles from the abduction point.
BUT - That was an exceptional case.
Presuming that law enforcement had good scent-holding material belonging to Suspect #2, teams might have been useful in ground searching around buildings - but you're going to need quite a few teams for the kind of search as conducted yesterday. When yo need to cover a LOT of ground thoroughly, one or two teams ain't gunna do it.
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Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.20 11:21:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:He was driving in a car, not sure if bloodhounds can track cars. They had that SUV on a flatbed truck carrying it away yesterday morning. I'm sure he didn't park his vehicle inside the boat, he left a vehicle, the location where that was done was known, and he fled on foot. A Captain Obvious place to begin tracking.
Even if the location he fled on foot weren't known, bloodhounds can catch the scent during a sweep of an area, then follow it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1374
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Posted - 2013.04.20 11:23:00 -
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Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:He was driving in a car, not sure if bloodhounds can track cars. They had that SUV on a flatbed truck carrying it away yesterday morning. I'm sure he didn't park his vehicle inside the boat, he left a vehicle, the location where that was done was known, and he fled on foot. A Captain Obvious place to begin tracking. Scent discrimination becomes an issue. Which scent in the vehicle is the dog going to track? We know for absolutely certain there were three different scents in that vehicle. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.20 11:26:00 -
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Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:Scent discrimination becomes an issue. Which scent in the vehicle is the dog going to track? We know for absolutely certain there were three different scents in that vehicle. I referred to earlier clothing from his hamper, his bed, his pillow from his bedroom. Pillow would probably be pretty ideal as they accumulate scent for days/weeks between washings.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1374
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Posted - 2013.04.20 11:31:00 -
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Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:Scent discrimination becomes an issue. Which scent in the vehicle is the dog going to track? We know for absolutely certain there were three different scents in that vehicle. I referred to earlier clothing from his hamper, his bed, his pillow from his bedroom. Pillow would probably be pretty ideal as they accumulate scent for days/weeks between washings. I hadn't heard that they'd even determined where he was living as yet... Might make getting the bed linens (or dirty socks) a bit problematic.
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Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.20 11:41:00 -
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It was known - he lived in a dorm room on Dartmouth campus, the one they evacuated yesterday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |
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