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DiKKy Heartiez
Hearties Industrial Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.04.21 02:45:00 -
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They are constantly flooding the chat with advertisements, 24/7 every day all day. Same people all the time. OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE USING THIRD PARTY BOT SOFTWARE TO ACHIEVE THIS This surely MUST be a violation of the EULA? Why does the CCP not remove these idiots? This is worse than botmining!!
Now on the other hand, when i tried to flood jita local with my angry rants i get blocked from text entry! WTF
The universe does not make sense this is ****. Ban the scammers plz. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
359
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Posted - 2013.04.21 02:50:00 -
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In before another boring CCP/ISD person locks this thread saying to petition it. WHICH ACHIEVED NOTHING IN THE LAST 5 YEARS IN REGARDS TO JITA SPAM BOTS. |
DiKKy Heartiez
Hearties Industrial Incorporated
7
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Posted - 2013.04.21 03:01:00 -
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but theyre bots, its illegal does ccp not has control? |
Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
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Posted - 2013.04.21 03:04:00 -
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DiKKy Heartiez wrote:They are constantly flooding the chat with advertisements, 24/7 every day all day. Same people all the time. OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE USING THIRD PARTY BOT SOFTWARE TO ACHIEVE THIS This surely MUST be a violation of the EULA? Why does the CCP not remove these idiots? This is worse than botmining!!
Now on the other hand, when i tried to flood jita local with my angry rants i get blocked from text entry! WTF
The universe does not make sense this is ****. Ban the scammers plz.
Personally I have already opened a thread on this while back...
Chribba has does some researching this empirically proving that many jita scammers are bots as its impossible for the post ratios to be human:
http://themittani.com/features/chribbas-jita-spam-bot-research
That said, CCP has been quiet on the subject but the numbers show that some posters magically disappear after a while.
Maybe they get banned.
Or it could be that they just biomass their characters and start a new one to get around being blocked. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
DiKKy Heartiez
Hearties Industrial Incorporated
7
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Posted - 2013.04.21 03:16:00 -
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In the absence of any channels to advertise your commercial offerings other than the local, these botflooders are gaining an unfair commercial advantage by FLOODING the chat with their worthless **** making it impossible for space joe to make his wares accessible through legit advertisement.
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3241
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Posted - 2013.04.21 03:27:00 -
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It takes less time to create a character to flog contracts/scams in Jita than it does to ban one.
Not all spammers are bots.
Spamming (so long as you're not using a bot to do it) is legal gameplay.
Put all of that together and you're really not going to get anywhere in curbing the numbers.
DiKKy Heartiez wrote:In the absence of any channels to advertise your commercial offerings other than the local, these botflooders are gaining an unfair commercial advantage by FLOODING the chat with their worthless **** making it impossible for space joe to make his wares accessible through legit advertisement.
You mean besides: Legit Trade (player moderated)
or the unmoderated Trade channels: Ships Modules and Munitions Blueprints Minerals and Manufacturing Real Estate Other This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Stan'din
Incursion Squad Punkz 'n Monkeys
91
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Posted - 2013.04.21 03:29:00 -
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Its not just them, you also have to contend with Market bots, undercutting your sale every min. Its nearly impossible to sell in Jita
Hence why i go to Amarr where it is far less crowded. But that is besides the point, I know and the rest of us know that CCP is working hard to remove bots and 3rd party software Interfering with the game, i guess we need to be patient and see what happens.
Your about as much use as a condom dispenser in the Vatican. |
DiKKy Heartiez
Hearties Industrial Incorporated
7
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Posted - 2013.04.21 04:18:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:It takes less time to create a character to flog contracts/scams in Jita than it does to ban one. Not all spammers are bots. Spamming (so long as you're not using a bot to do it) is legal gameplay. Put all of that together and you're really not going to get anywhere in curbing the numbers. DiKKy Heartiez wrote:In the absence of any channels to advertise your commercial offerings other than the local, these botflooders are gaining an unfair commercial advantage by FLOODING the chat with their worthless **** making it impossible for space joe to make his wares accessible through legit advertisement. You mean besides: Legit Trade (player moderated) or the unmoderated Trade channels: Ships Modules and Munitions Blueprints Minerals and Manufacturing Real Estate Other
No i mean advertisement avenues, like for instance the ability to purchase billboards on the station undock or whatever. And yes, I do agree that flooding is legal gameplay ofc, however using anykind of third party software to flood for you while your at work/school/whatever is not. This **** is more disruptive than the chinese goldfarmerbots ok. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3242
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Posted - 2013.04.21 04:35:00 -
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DiKKy Heartiez wrote:No i mean advertisement avenues, like for instance the ability to purchase billboards on the station undock or whatever. And yes, I do agree that flooding is legal gameplay ofc, however using anykind of third party software to flood for you while your at work/school/whatever is not. This **** is more disruptive than the chinese goldfarmerbots ok.
You mean like those GSCs with things like "xyz is recruiting" littering every gate in HS aren't advertising? Learn something new...
Also, all of those channels I listed are avenues for advertising your goods. So is the sell orders forum.
Also the Contract search function is advertising. People decide what they need, search for it and buy it.
Again, it takes less time to create a character capable of using such a bot than it takes to ban them, and not all spammers flooding local are bots. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
2
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Posted - 2013.04.21 04:40:00 -
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market bots **** me off more than the scammers relay 1 freak mod at a time relay botters and you cant even pay more for a stack that cost more because of game mechanics |
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Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
386
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Posted - 2013.04.21 05:49:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:DiKKy Heartiez wrote:No i mean advertisement avenues, like for instance the ability to purchase billboards on the station undock or whatever. And yes, I do agree that flooding is legal gameplay ofc, however using anykind of third party software to flood for you while your at work/school/whatever is not. This **** is more disruptive than the chinese goldfarmerbots ok. You mean like those GSCs with things like "xyz is recruiting" littering every gate in HS aren't advertising? Learn something new... Also, all of those channels I listed are avenues for advertising your goods. So is the sell orders forum. Also the Contract search function is advertising. People decide what they need, search for it and buy it. Again, it takes less time to create a character capable of using such a bot than it takes to ban them, and not all spammers flooding local are bots.
They could cut the easyness of creating these bots after a ban by making all the skill enabling market slots to not be trainable on trial. Not perfect but better than nothing. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3242
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Posted - 2013.04.21 05:53:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:They could cut the easyness of creating these bots after a ban by making all the skill enabling market slots to not be trainable on trial. Not perfect but better than nothing.
I'm talking about the local spam. Market bots are a separate issue and likely harder to detect and confirm. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
386
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Posted - 2013.04.21 05:55:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:They could cut the easyness of creating these bots after a ban by making all the skill enabling market slots to not be trainable on trial. Not perfect but better than nothing. I'm talking about the local spam. Market bots are a separate issue and likely harder to detect and confirm.
Then not a single contract possible on trial...
EDIT : That leave the isk doublers up but I dunno how to deal with them atm... |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3242
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Posted - 2013.04.21 06:06:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Then not a single contract possible on trial...
EDIT : That leave the isk doublers up but I dunno how to deal with them atm...
Contracts aren't available to trials.
You can spam other people's contracts.
You cannot prevent other people from spamming your contracts, so if CCP were to start banning people due to their contracts being spammed, the botters could throw up lots of chaff.
I'm just saying, there's no easy solution that doesn't have nasty potential side effects. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
xxVastorxx
Abh Empire Unclaimed.
24
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Posted - 2013.04.21 06:08:00 -
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Simple fix, right click the spammers name click block. yay problem, solved. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2408
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Posted - 2013.04.21 06:09:00 -
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Jita scammers don't bother me in the least.
But then I spend my time in the other thousands of systems that are not, in fact, Jita. The simplest solution is often the best one.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
386
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Posted - 2013.04.21 06:11:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Then not a single contract possible on trial...
EDIT : That leave the isk doublers up but I dunno how to deal with them atm... Contracts aren't available to trials. You can spam other people's contracts. You cannot prevent other people from spamming your contracts, so if CCP were to start banning people due to their contracts being spammed, the botters could throw up lots of chaff. I'm just saying, there's no easy solution that doesn't have nasty potential side effects.
Stupid system enabling spam.
I HATE SPAM! |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3242
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Posted - 2013.04.21 06:13:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
Stupid system enabling spam.
I HATE SPAM!
You can trivially escape all the spam.
Go to the local window, right click > blink off then right click > minimize This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3244
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Posted - 2013.04.21 09:09:00 -
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7819
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Posted - 2013.04.21 10:44:00 -
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SURELY YOU ARE NOT ACCUSING THIS GUY FOR USING ANY TYPE OF SOFTWARE TO SPAM ARE YOU?!!!
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
356
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Posted - 2013.04.21 10:53:00 -
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Someone asks the devs at fanfest about that, please :D G££ <= Me |
Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
384
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Posted - 2013.04.21 11:18:00 -
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DiKKy Heartiez wrote:RubyPorto wrote:It takes less time to create a character to flog contracts/scams in Jita than it does to ban one. Not all spammers are bots. Spamming (so long as you're not using a bot to do it) is legal gameplay. Put all of that together and you're really not going to get anywhere in curbing the numbers. DiKKy Heartiez wrote:In the absence of any channels to advertise your commercial offerings other than the local, these botflooders are gaining an unfair commercial advantage by FLOODING the chat with their worthless **** making it impossible for space joe to make his wares accessible through legit advertisement. You mean besides: Legit Trade (player moderated) or the unmoderated Trade channels: Ships Modules and Munitions Blueprints Minerals and Manufacturing Real Estate Other No i mean advertisement avenues, like for instance the ability to purchase billboards on the station undock or whatever. And yes, I do agree that flooding is legal gameplay ofc, however using anykind of third party software to flood for you while your at work/school/whatever is not. This **** is more disruptive than the chinese goldfarmerbots ok.
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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
388
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Posted - 2013.04.21 11:19:00 -
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Chribba wrote:SURELY YOU ARE NOT ACCUSING THIS GUY FOR USING ANY TYPE OF SOFTWARE TO SPAM ARE YOU?!!! /c
Detailed info like this regarding spammers has been available for quite some time.
What has CCP done about it? Nothing.
The only viable option available to players now is to spend their time blocking each and every one of them.
Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
420
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Posted - 2013.04.21 13:49:00 -
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Chribba wrote:SURELY YOU ARE NOT ACCUSING THIS GUY FOR USING ANY TYPE OF SOFTWARE TO SPAM ARE YOU?!!! /c goodness no I mean you can see that he is using a timer as the stamps were flubbed a ittle
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