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BEPOHNKA
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:29:00 -
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Hello!
Maybe this would be the next best steps to have a CCP / CLOAKERS / HUNTERS! WIN WIN WIN? yes?
Well I been seeing lots of topics on the forums be place out their to help combat cloakers in their systems or just people who like to hide for hours with out need of moving ....
So at this point I think even the cloakers should have too keep warping in order not to be found. If they sit in one spot more then 5 mins, their scan able? How easy should it be well not so easy.... so this how it would look in a picture book...
CLOAK ----> WARPS TO SAFE SPOTS! ----> STOPS WARPING!!! <----- WITHIN 5 MINS OF NOT WARPING
SCANNING BEGINS ----> FOUND FOOT STEPS!!!! LET FOLLOW THEM!!!! ------> 100% SCAN WARP, CLOAK'S BOOM!
Get the idea? why allow them to just sit in one spot? Keep them move around and still be safe!!! |
Anunzi
High House Of Shadows Tribal Band
122
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:31:00 -
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I..... what? "On we fly, on wings of thunder, never more to sheath our swords" |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:32:00 -
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--> Features & Ideas Discussion
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
fukier
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:33:00 -
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ffs ibtl At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1346
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:33:00 -
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Anunzi wrote:
I..... what?
Something about making cloaking run on a mining timer I think. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. Twitter --á@DeVeldrin |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1031
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:34:00 -
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Anunzi wrote:
I..... what?
cloak's boom |
Din Chao
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
218
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:35:00 -
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No.
Thanks for playing. |
Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
698
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:36:00 -
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I think she wants to be able to scan down AFK cloakers. Oh god. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13804
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:38:00 -
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Why? Also, no. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
301
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:39:00 -
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Cloaked ships are like nuclear submarines. If they don't move they can't be found. Its a great game dynamic that allows people to bio, grab a beer, do a little wife faction, and get back to the game at a pace that accommodates RL.
I love my cloak and very much prefer doctrines that include one just because it helps to balance RL. If that afk time makes people in game nervous then good! You should be nervous while playing in Eve.
Slavery is self choosen, only the unclaimed are not free.
...Book of Reclaiming: Hall of the Goat
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
934
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:46:00 -
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People keep inventing reasons why there is a reason to be afraid of afk clockers...
Do we have an EVE shrink around? |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1375
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:47:00 -
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1) Cloaks leave a 5 minute delayed signature that can be scanned down. If they stand still, the scanner will land right on top of them. If they move straight, the scanner can follow the line and may end up in the same grid as them.
2) Special Ping module makes cloaked ships in a certain radius 'pong' for half a second, yielding a visual and audio cue*. Cycle time is some 20-30 seconds. If the cloak stands still, it will be easy to find, if it moves straight, it can be followed, caught up with and proximity uncloaked.
So, if you are cloaked, you better move and change direction regularly, lest they'll find you if they put effort into finding you.
*does not work on gate cloaks Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |
Morrow Disca
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:51:00 -
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Oh look. It's this thread again. |
Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
29
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:51:00 -
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The way you fix afk cloakers is to uninstall the game.....or don't look at local. What you can't see won't bother you. |
HellBent KillingSpree
Republic University Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:51:00 -
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OP, i think you should take a leaf out of the cloakers book and just sit there for hours and days on end and do nothing.....that includes posting on the forums. "Dont let your kids play on the weekends unless you like exposing your children to several thousand drunk and drug addicts" An unbiased Amazon players review |
Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
301
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:54:00 -
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Morrow Disca wrote:Oh look. It's this thread again.
I actually love this thread. Its like the Evening Primrose in my garden, it keeps coming up in places that I don't really want it, but its kind of cool so I let it stay.
Slavery is self choosen, only the unclaimed are not free.
...Book of Reclaiming: Hall of the Goat
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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
581
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:58:00 -
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How will I extract tears from nullbears? AFK cloaking allows me to catch ratters who otherwise instawarp to safety when I enter system. Stop trying to force me to play your game! "I do want to point out one "abuse" thing I did see however. *snipped* Please do not post details of possible exploits on the forums. - CCP Eterne" ... Because of Falcon. |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1342
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:00:00 -
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This exact idea has been discussed in-depth a countless number of times. It is always shot down. Do a search in future and post in an already existing thread. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Morrow Disca
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
38
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:05:00 -
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*cough*
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699&find=unread
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Anne Dieu-le-veut
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:12:00 -
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BEPOHNKA wrote:Hello!
Maybe this would be the next best steps to have a CCP / CLOAKERS / HUNTERS! WIN WIN WIN? yes?
Well I been seeing lots of topics on the forums be place out their to help combat cloakers in their systems or just people who like to hide for hours with out need of moving ....
And yet you felt compelled to make another one.
Does one cloaky in a low/null system REALLY shut it down? BRB going to train Covert Ops. |
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1377
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:19:00 -
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Only valid argument against afk cloaking is that you are as save as if you were docked. But you shouldn't be absolutely save outside the warmth of a station's womb.
Even sitting afk in a deathstar POS has some minimal risk, even if it involves a fleet of caps popping the POS from right under you if you sit there long enough with little enough strontium. Next to nil, but still there.
A save spot can't be destroyed though and you are always 100% when cloaked. And you shouldn't because you've clicked 'undock' and that should raise risk of destruction above nil. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |
Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
304
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:26:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Only valid argument against afk cloaking is that you are as save as if you were docked. But you shouldn't be absolutely save outside the warmth of a station's womb.
Even sitting afk in a deathstar POS has some minimal risk, even if it involves a fleet of caps popping the POS from right under you if you sit there long enough with little enough strontium. Next to nil, but still there.
A save spot can't be destroyed though and you are always 100% when cloaked. And you shouldn't because you've clicked 'undock' and that should raise risk of destruction above nil. But its not nill. You could be decloaked by a passing ship or just not fully activate your cloak before going afk. Prolly about the same odds as dying in a deathstar actually. Slavery is self choosen, only the unclaimed are not free.
...Book of Reclaiming: Hall of the Goat
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Ravnik
Choke-Hold Beacon Light Alliance
7084
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:29:00 -
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Leave cloakers alone dammit! Go pick on hot droppers! The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly.......... |
Virginia Virdana
Envoy Fast Deployment
47
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:29:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:... do a little wife faction ...
A Little Wife Faction sounds much more fun than the one I'm in...
They say never come to a gunfight armed with a knife.You appear to have come armed with a spoon. |
Ager Agemo
Imperial Collective
271
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:34:00 -
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this is a total waste of time, once you somehow were to get afk cloaking fixed, how will you fix AFK speeding? and then what about someone just putting up a small POS and afking inside the shields? |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1377
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:35:00 -
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Ravnik wrote:Leave cloakers alone dammit! Go pick on hot droppers! Cynos get a bandwidth that needs to spool up for a few seconds before a ship can jump through, if the cyno ship gets popped, the cyno collapses. Some ships can get a bonus on bandwidth generation and/or bandwidth volume. Cynos can come in different sizes with different maximum bandwidth, volume generation rate and fuel usage, as well as different tech levels.
Good enough? I have more to nerf jumping. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
15
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:39:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote: when cloaked.
Yeah. But you're not always cloaked. You can be decloaked warping around, landing on gates, etc. Cloakies get caught in null all the time, in spite of their tricks. And while it is true that when you are cloaked you are under no direct threat of harm, you also pose no direct threat to anyone else, either. That's the trade off. A cloaked ship with an AFK player is, by definition, no threat to anyone at all, ever, until the pilot sits back down.
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Ra Jackson
CRIMINALS IN ACTION
171
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:39:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Only valid argument against afk cloaking is that you are as save as if you were docked. But you shouldn't be absolutely save outside the warmth of a station's womb.
If your client crashes or disconnects you decloak and emergency warp . That is way more dangerous than having a disconnect in a station or POS. |
Sentamon
857
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:44:00 -
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Lets remove the only risky feature for nullbears?
No! ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Hemp Invader
Jazz Associates Azgoths of Kria
7
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:46:00 -
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What I read: Hodor hodor hodor hodor hodor... Hodor hod
What it says: Hodor |
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