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Helena Russell Makanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:23:00 -
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Personally whenever you see a swarm of goons yapping endlessly on the forums about something, simply ask yourself "what's in it for them?", and you usually have your answer.
So what are they after....?
1) The destruction of Darius with slander? 2) Justice and making Eve a better place?***
*** FYI #2 made me laugh so hard I almost spat tea on my keyboard lol
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Prince Kobol
55
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:24:00 -
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Still waiting |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:28:00 -
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The funniest thing about this thread is that all this already got discussed to death at k.con where Riverini not only admitted that Darius sent him the logs but bragged about what a coup it was for his dumb blog. The whole issue had blown over until Darius started posting hilarious conspiracy theories about it here. |
digi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:28:00 -
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Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Personally whenever you see a swarm of goons yapping endlessly on the forums about something, simply ask yourself "what's in it for them?", and you usually have your answer. So what are they after....? 1) The destruction of Darius with slander? 2) Justice and making Eve a better place?*** *** FYI #2 made me laugh so hard I almost spat tea on my keyboard lol
Honestly, nothing is in it for us. Darius contributes very little to any endeavor he takes part. He simply leaked NDA'd information and that's a big problem. You would feel differently if it came out that Darius leaked information in order to get a jump on the market.
When are people going to understand that regardless of the in-game antics, many Goons care about the state of the game?
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
65
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:33:00 -
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Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Personally whenever you see a swarm of goons yapping endlessly on the forums about something, simply ask yourself "what's in it for them?", and you usually have your answer.
So what are they after....?
1) The destruction of Darius with slander? 2) Justice and making Eve a better place?***
Ironically it was goons who were "slandered" by the OP, and Goons have offered verifiable evidence to back up their accusation, whether you agree with their conclusion or not.
So what you thought was a clever method of approaching issues actually outs you as a silly bigot.
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Helena Russell Makanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:35:00 -
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Skunk Gracklaw wrote:The funniest thing about this thread is that all this already got discussed to death at k.con where Riverini not only admitted that Darius sent him the logs but bragged about what a coup it was for his dumb blog. The whole issue had blown over until Darius started posting hilarious conspiracy theories about it here.
Ummm I think the point you goons keep ignoring is you think because Riverini 'admitted' Darius sent him logs, it makes that some sort of unquestionable fact and proof positive we should all believe.
I mean I could 'admit' that you sent me a dozen roses. Proof positive you did right?
What is really standing out is WHY you are putting so much effort into this?
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Helena Russell Makanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:41:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Personally whenever you see a swarm of goons yapping endlessly on the forums about something, simply ask yourself "what's in it for them?", and you usually have your answer.
So what are they after....?
1) The destruction of Darius with slander? 2) Justice and making Eve a better place?***
Ironically it was goons who were "slandered" by the OP, and Goons have offered verifiable evidence to back up their accusation, whether you agree with their conclusion or not. So what you thought was a clever method of approaching issues actually outs you as a silly bigot.
Ahhh 'verifiable evidence' lol. No one including you has shown any here. Keyword=Verifiable aka Trustworthy. As for being a bigot, you are a silly monkey. |
Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
969
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:42:00 -
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Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Skunk Gracklaw wrote:The funniest thing about this thread is that all this already got discussed to death at k.con where Riverini not only admitted that Darius sent him the logs but bragged about what a coup it was for his dumb blog. The whole issue had blown over until Darius started posting hilarious conspiracy theories about it here. Ummm I think the point you goons keep ignoring is you think because Riverini 'admitted' Darius sent him logs, it makes that some sort of unquestionable fact and proof positive we should all believe. I mean I could 'admit' that you sent me a dozen roses. Proof positive you did right? What is really standing out is WHY you are putting so much effort into this?
so your brilliant refutation is that riverini, a member of Darius III's alliance, and someone who hates goons with a passion, is lying to slander his alliance leader for us |
Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
969
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:44:00 -
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remember earlier in the thread when darius III was claiming that there was an influx of no-name people with 0-3 likes and they must be goon alts
ahh, memories
no reason i'm bringing this up, just reminicing |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
65
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:50:00 -
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Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Ahhh 'verifiable evidence' lol. No one including you has shown any here. Keyword=Verifiable aka Trustworthy. As for being a bigot, you are a silly monkey.
No, the evidence is verifiable. You can verify that the facts they are bringing to the table are true. Now you may not come to the same conclusion, and in this you are perfectly justified as the facts do not add up to a 100% certain and undeniable conclusion. However, the mere fact that they are presenting an argument supported by evidence that anyone can see and evaluate for themselves takes such accusations as "slander" off the table, although the same can not be said in the case of the OP.
For example, it is a verifiable fact that riverini posted what goons have said he posted, how you interpret that fact in terms of the reliability of riverini and so on is entirely up to you. However, it remains a verifiable fact and an element of their accusation that they have presented that you can interpret for yourself.
So, once again, you come off looking silly and bigoted, and I recommend you reevaluate your approach to posting if you wish to avoid appearing as such in the future. |
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Steelshine
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:51:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Skunk Gracklaw wrote:The funniest thing about this thread is that all this already got discussed to death at k.con where Riverini not only admitted that Darius sent him the logs but bragged about what a coup it was for his dumb blog. The whole issue had blown over until Darius started posting hilarious conspiracy theories about it here. Ummm I think the point you goons keep ignoring is you think because Riverini 'admitted' Darius sent him logs, it makes that some sort of unquestionable fact and proof positive we should all believe. I mean I could 'admit' that you sent me a dozen roses. Proof positive you did right? What is really standing out is WHY you are putting so much effort into this? so your brilliant refutation is that riverini, a member of Darius III's alliance, and someone who hates goons with a passion, is lying to slander his alliance leader for us
to be fair, riverini is pretty much ********
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EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:04:00 -
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below is a list of what the CSMs have done for me
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Tez Saurus
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:13:00 -
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Darius III wrote: The 'evidence' that people use claiming I broke the NDA shows my innocence.
Darius III wrote: I understand that this does not "prove" that I did not leak anything
Says it all. |
Walter Stine
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
73
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:21:00 -
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I have further described my feelings on Darius the Third's recent actions in the following blog post. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:21:00 -
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Darius III wrote:Also: Is it true that GS are getting 5 M Isk per post ITT ? ahahahahahahaha
Remember when I said, "keep going"? Thanks for complying. |
Montmazar
Autocannons Anonymous
5
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:24:00 -
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digi wrote:Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Personally whenever you see a swarm of goons yapping endlessly on the forums about something, simply ask yourself "what's in it for them?", and you usually have your answer. So what are they after....? 1) The destruction of Darius with slander? 2) Justice and making Eve a better place?*** *** FYI #2 made me laugh so hard I almost spat tea on my keyboard lol Honestly, nothing is in it for us. Darius contributes very little to any endeavor he takes part. He simply leaked NDA'd information and that's a big problem. You would feel differently if it came out that Darius leaked information in order to get a jump on the market. When are people going to understand that regardless of the in-game antics, many Goons care about the state of the game?
Blarg more goon lies goons only lie and they have developed the most successful space empire in game with several successful in game institutions backing it up purely through evil gooniness and scams and such because hundreds of goon players have spent more hours on this game than most players building something because really they are in some long con to actually destroy this game
*eats paint*
That said, goonswarm public messages trade on this image of being those darn rascals who hate the game and try to bring it down. Which I do think is hilariously false, given the absurd numbers of man-hours goons have put into building something frankly pretty amazing purely in game. But, you can't get too mad when people start to believe your own propaganda. |
ADMlNlSTRATOR
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:32:00 -
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Liar, liar, pants on fire. |
Woo Glin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
134
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:34:00 -
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I'm going to print that OP out and frame it. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:39:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:You should not be scamming and abusing your position of trust in anyway when on the CSM - Full stop. Goons are more than doing this, and their leader is the chair of the csm
the csm should be 'clean' they are supposed to be working for the greater good of the whole playerbase, they do not, they manipulate the game for themselves. Now they are in CSM they are abusing this position to further manipulate the game.
Its fact - deal with it.
You want to scam, step out.. no other country, group would accept that a person in any position that serves the players/public could openly scam them...!!! NO ONE! I've a question for you: says who? Where in the rules does it say that you should refrain from certain aspects of the game just because you're on the CSM? Seriously, what's the logic behind this?
If the first words out of your mouth is "because scamming/griefing isn't moral!", then newsflash: eve isn't about being moral. The CSM isn't about being moral. The CSM is, now, about making CCP stop being pants-on-head ********, and that has ****-all to do with whether or not you're getting scammed because you're a dumbfuck.
EVE is a cold, hard and dangerous place. You want it represented by people who actually understand that, preferably before 0.0 stagnates so hard it's permanently deadlocked. If it hasn't already. |
Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:44:00 -
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D3 for CSM8, dealz with it. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD |
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Ghost Xray
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 21:30:00 -
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I can only imagine CCP shaking their heads at where this CSM faggottry has gone.
All of you involved (D3, Mitt, Vile Rat, Goons in general) come out looking like a bunch of morons who have no business representing anyone, in any respect.
And since when did Goons start doing their own sting operations to find out who broke the NDA's in the first place? Is it their job to "police" CCP policy? You guys don't care about botting, but you'll be damned if someone leaks some super serious CMS convo?
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digi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2011.10.18 21:37:00 -
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Ghost Xray wrote:I can only imagine CCP shaking their heads at where this CSM faggottry has gone. All of you involved (D3, Mitt, Vile Rat, Goons in general) come out looking like a bunch of morons who have no business representing anyone, in any respect. And since when did Goons start doing their own sting operations to find out who broke the NDA's in the first place? Is it their job to "police" CCP policy? You guys don't care about botting, but you'll be damned if someone leaks some super serious CMS convo?
Who said it was a Goon sting operation? Just because the chairman of the CSM happens to be a Goon? It's not moronic to note suspicious activity and report it. I do not know if the CSM takes an oath, but they may be compelled by oath or policy to report such things.
As far as botting goes, who knows for sure who is behind a keyboard? That's CCPs job to make that determination and they pay a person to do it. We are not legally compelled to do their job.
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Ghost Xray
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.10.18 21:59:00 -
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digi wrote:Ghost Xray wrote:I can only imagine CCP shaking their heads at where this CSM faggottry has gone. All of you involved (D3, Mitt, Vile Rat, Goons in general) come out looking like a bunch of morons who have no business representing anyone, in any respect. And since when did Goons start doing their own sting operations to find out who broke the NDA's in the first place? Is it their job to "police" CCP policy? You guys don't care about botting, but you'll be damned if someone leaks some super serious CMS convo? Who said it was a Goon sting operation? Just because the chairman of the CSM happens to be a Goon? It's not moronic to note suspicious activity and report it. I do not know if the CSM takes an oath, but they may be compelled by oath or policy to report such things. As far as botting goes, who knows for sure who is behind a keyboard? That's CCPs job to make that determination and they pay a person to do it. We are not legally compelled to do their job.
Well, call it what you want, sting, setup, what have you
So you telling me as chairman of the CSM, it's his job to make sure all CSM members are following the NDA they made to CCP?
Look, I'm not saying that if I were in that position and was privy to breaches of rules or whatever that I wouldn't do something about it, because I probably would. Because it's the rules we all agreed to and I expect everyone to follow the same one's that I'm following.
Which is exactly why I would spend the same amount of energy prosecuting botters, especially in my own alliance with the same ferocity as I would a NDA leaker, perhaps even moreso, nay, definitely moreso. What do you think hurts the Eve community more? Leaking of super secret NDA info, or botting?
Seems to me you guys pick and choose which "crimes" to prosecute. In this case, it serves you to "right" this wrong.
- 1. Too obvious. |
Signal11th
121
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:00:00 -
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digi wrote:Ghost Xray wrote:I can only imagine CCP shaking their heads at where this CSM faggottry has gone. All of you involved (D3, Mitt, Vile Rat, Goons in general) come out looking like a bunch of morons who have no business representing anyone, in any respect. And since when did Goons start doing their own sting operations to find out who broke the NDA's in the first place? Is it their job to "police" CCP policy? You guys don't care about botting, but you'll be damned if someone leaks some super serious CMS convo? Who said it was a Goon sting operation?
digi wrote: I believe there was a previous suspicion of information leaking from that channel. What you see in the screenshots was bait.
Err he did?
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
121
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:02:00 -
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I have no interest in what happens ... all that aside, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn that the Goons framed you. It is certainly in their playbook. What God Wants, God Gets, God Help Us All |
I'm 5particus
REV0LTING
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:11:00 -
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Q) How do you know when a Goon is lying ? A) He posts something.
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Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:28:00 -
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I'm 5particus wrote: Q) How do you know when a Goon is lying ? A) He posts something.
So edgy and original. |
digi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:29:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:digi wrote:Ghost Xray wrote:I can only imagine CCP shaking their heads at where this CSM faggottry has gone. All of you involved (D3, Mitt, Vile Rat, Goons in general) come out looking like a bunch of morons who have no business representing anyone, in any respect. And since when did Goons start doing their own sting operations to find out who broke the NDA's in the first place? Is it their job to "police" CCP policy? You guys don't care about botting, but you'll be damned if someone leaks some super serious CMS convo? Who said it was a Goon sting operation? digi wrote: I believe there was a previous suspicion of information leaking from that channel. What you see in the screenshots was bait.
Err he did?
There is a difference between a Goon operation and a CSM operation. Take the politics out of the allegation. Go read the kugu thread. |
Signal11th
121
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:30:00 -
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digi wrote:Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Personally whenever you see a swarm of goons yapping endlessly on the forums about something, simply ask yourself "what's in it for them?", and you usually have your answer. So what are they after....? 1) The destruction of Darius with slander? 2) Justice and making Eve a better place?*** *** FYI #2 made me laugh so hard I almost spat tea on my keyboard lol Honestly, nothing is in it for us. Darius contributes very little to any endeavor he takes part. He simply leaked NDA'd information and that's a big problem. You would feel differently if it came out that Darius leaked information in order to get a jump on the market. When are people going to understand that regardless of the in-game antics, many Goons care about the state of the game?
The thing is Digi is one of perception, You say that many Goons care about the game and you may be right about that, the problem is with how the Goons present themselves to us "pubbies".
My perception of the Goons and many players I have talked to (not many by any stretch of the imagination) perceive the Goons to be a right bunch of knobs. Now more than likely this is wrong but thats what the general perception of the Goons is in my circle of EVE friends.
You guys might be out to save the EVE universe and someday we might even thank you for doing such a great job of it but at the moment like many posts on here have said..."Goons are posting Goons are lying" etc etc
From my own personal view you have a cadre of talented people surrounded by the biggest bunch of strange-uns going. You know what, it's great you lot stick up for yourselves but to what advantage?? Great you are your own masters withing your circles but to what end? alot of people just think "Goon" and automatically have already judged someone without even talking to them.
It's a problem of trust,perception and little bit of the boy who cried wolf and until that's addressed people are always going to think the worst. General things like calling people pubbies, it shows a kind of elitism and general looking down on the rest of us. Now if that was Albert Einstein doing it I'd probably have to hold my hands up and say fair enough but when it's some scrout who got through on a by through SA forums and can just about read the "you've posted something, hopefully it's good" message it tends to annoy people.
Your no better no worse than anyone else but the perception of who you are and what you stand for is what counts either negatively or positively. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:42:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:You know what, it's great you lot stick up for yourselves but to what advantage?? Why would we need to "stick up for ourselves"? We didn't break the NDA by giving Riverini privileged chat logs. This thread is Darius' hilarious attempt at clearing himself and even though it's not working I'm glad he did it because it's funny.
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