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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:36:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Somebody please enlighten me about what detail i'm missing in this logic.
it's both 150 dollars, and 150 euros. so when you convert dollars in to euros, it's less than 150 euros. |
None ofthe Above
529
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:40:00 -
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As I was yelling at the screen repeatedly during the presentation,
"Shut up and take my money!" I hope you voted, you glorious but often apathetic bastards! STV working as intended; Pre-elections and Get out the Vote, room for improvement. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3313
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:43:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Somebody please enlighten me about what detail i'm missing in this logic. it's both 150 dollars, and 150 euros. so when you convert dollars in to euros, it's less than 150 euros. Yes, i've noticed that, but that doesn't really explain to me why people whine about it.
It seems that people believe those from the US pay less ... but how can that be the case ? |
Ai Shun
933
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:49:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Where's the link to order it?
Try here, Malcanis. New EVE Store. Oh and, gf. |
Teven Noziroh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:52:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Somebody please enlighten me about what detail i'm missing in this logic. Detail? You are not missing a detail.
You are missing the entire basics of how the world economy and currency works.
Claiming that the numeric value is the only factor, and that the currency it is in is irrelevant, is just so mindblowingly uneducated that it frightens me, deeply.
Let's give it a shot tho. Let's assume you make 50.000USD a year.
Now you move to Sweden. The USD to SEK exchange rate is around 1:6. Do you think you should make 50.000SEK or 300.000SEK a year ( we'll leave tax rate, cost of living etc. aside )?
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Eddie Meth
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:52:00 -
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Luke Diligovictus wrote:Please let us obtain this with plex!
A sizable part of the community (myself included) don't have the real-life ISK to spare for this; Please, please, please let us buy/pre-order this the same way we currently 'buy' our regular subscription time!
Thank you!
p.s. Looking forward to the next decade, CCP! That ^^ And It wouldn't hurt to add one plex to price, and cut it off on taxes. I'm sending mail anyway, make their mailbox explode! |
Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
348
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:54:00 -
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Teven Noziroh wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Somebody please enlighten me about what detail i'm missing in this logic. Detail? You are not missing a detail. You are missing the entire basics of how the world economy and currency works. Claiming that the numeric value is the only factor, and that the currency it is in is irrelevant, is just so mindblowingly uneducated that it frightens me, deeply. Let's give it a shot tho. Let's assume you make 50.000USD a year. Now you move to Sweden. The USD to SEK exchange rate is around 1:6. Do you think you should make 50.000SEK or 300.000SEK a year ( we'll leave tax rate, cost of living etc. aside )?
And I live in Sweden so don't remind me about taxes, living expenses and stuff........ I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more. |
Acac Sunflyier
FLA5HY RED
570
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:56:00 -
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Setsune Rin wrote:Gé¼ =/= $ is all i have to say
im interested in it, but make a damned exchange rate adjustment we're overpaying 35 Gé¼ at this rate
Hilmar is expecting a huge crash in the value of the euro versus the dollar. It'll be 1:1 in October. CCP don't make us wait another decade for a drone overhaul; DRONE OVERHAUL NOW! |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
472
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:07:00 -
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Iceland is a member of the EEC so despite not being in the EU they have to deal with certain rules, including VAT (or we'll just sell the silly little island to highest bidder).
The conversion isn't mathematically correct, but it's close enough and simple.
If it's too much money for you, then shut up and don't buy it. CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP (aka Judge) Peligro: I will find your main.
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Teven Noziroh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:16:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:Iceland is a member of the EEC so despite not being in the EU they have to deal with certain rules, including VAT (or we'll just sell the silly little island to highest bidder).
The conversion isn't mathematically correct, but it's close enough and simple.
If it's too much money for you, then shut up and don't buy it. What do you think the VAT in Portugal is, what do you think it is in Ireland? It's not the flat 30% that CCP is charging... and were do you think the difference goes? ( hint: it's not to the EU coffers ).
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Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
267
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:17:00 -
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Setsune Rin wrote:Gé¼ =/= $ is all i have to say
im interested in it, but make a damned exchange rate adjustment we're overpaying 35 Gé¼ at this rate Say hello to VAT. |
Teven Noziroh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:21:00 -
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Fractal Muse wrote:Setsune Rin wrote:Gé¼ =/= $ is all i have to say
im interested in it, but make a damned exchange rate adjustment we're overpaying 35 Gé¼ at this rate Say hello to VAT. Please show me on the VAT Doll in which EU countries VAT is 30%.
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Sobach
Fourth Circle
123
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:22:00 -
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Hmm, the CE is also on Amazon, but seems like the Nefantar Thrasher is not part of the package if pre-ordered from Amazon? |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
1545
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:23:00 -
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Houm... i would rather spare the board game and save 30 euros instead...
BTW: 150 USD = 115.11 EUR +21% VAT= 139.28 Gé¼. The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
anthie
Biggest Dickest
3
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:32:00 -
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Setsune Rin wrote:Gé¼ =/= $ is all i have to say
im interested in it, but make a damned exchange rate adjustment we're overpaying 35 Gé¼ at this rate
Yea its so super nice to get ****** in the ass by ccp , 149.99Gé¼ is 199$
SPOT on CCP
You say its about the VAT, well i say f..... you sir, you could still adjust the price as Blizzard did with their subscriptions, euro's pay 12.99Gé¼ and brits pay something like 10-ú for a sub and so forth
But CCP , noooo why should we be nice to the europeans, lets gang bang em
/end rant
/flame coat on for the fat fucks of america.
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anthie
Biggest Dickest
3
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:33:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Gillia Winddancer wrote: Europeans are getting rather massively screwed - . well consiter what europe did to the world and i guess we are not even close to even
Consider that America is actually the cause of the global economy crisis....
So really... wanna bring that up dumbass. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:34:00 -
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anthie wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Gillia Winddancer wrote: Europeans are getting rather massively screwed - . well consiter what europe did to the world and i guess we are not even close to even Consider that America is actually the cause of the global economy crisis.... So really... wanna bring that up dumbass. Dude. That's serious ISD-bait.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
151
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:35:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:How does the capsule work? Is it account-bound? Is it character bound?
That would be great, although I imagine that it would be like any other special edition ship. Then againf the rules for pods are a bit different, and it would be interesting if it were handled differently. |
Nomistrav
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
170
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:39:00 -
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Can't afford it at the moment... Is it limited supply? When will it stop being featured? |
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
151
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:45:00 -
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Nomistrav wrote:Can't afford it at the moment... Is it limited supply? When will it stop being featured?
This is a good question. I would rather just buy the artbook and maybe the CD separately (will buy the in game stuff for ISK, not interested in the board game) since I can't imagine those two items going for the price of the collector's edition. I want to wait to see if these items will be available separately, but don't want to miss out on getting them. The original Eve artbook is gorgeous and I was wondering if the new one is matching and the same dimensions since it looks square as well. |
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Landrae
Sacred Templars Unclaimed.
449
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:46:00 -
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I bought it and used my code for the new pre order trasher, the website told me next time i logged in i would be able to claim it. Yet I am still unable to claim my ship. Welcome to Eve Online |
Paukinra
Big Diggers Trifectas Syndicate
17
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:00:00 -
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I REALLY want this colelctors edition but can't afford it IRL, I hope they do allow us to buy it though plex, I dont mind paying a few extra pounds to get it.
Also, when does the 'preorder' offer end, day before, month before? |
Nomistrav
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
170
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:13:00 -
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Celeste Taylor wrote:Nomistrav wrote:Can't afford it at the moment... Is it limited supply? When will it stop being featured? This is a good question. I would rather just buy the artbook and maybe the CD separately (will buy the in game stuff for ISK, not interested in the board game) since I can't imagine those two items going for the price of the collector's edition. I want to wait to see if these items will be available separately, but don't want to miss out on getting them. The original Eve artbook is gorgeous and I was wondering if the new one is matching and the same dimensions since it looks square as well.
I'll be real (and I know this is could to sound sacreligious) but I'm just interested in getting the Dust items... I dunno, I'm a lore freak and getting my hands on the 'Templar' gear would really brighten my day ^_^; |
Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
77
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Posted - 2013.04.27 23:49:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Houm... i would rather spare the board game and save 30 euros instead...
Yeah, I would really rather have that EVE: Source book they were talking about at FF (still not sure if its different from the one in the CE package though) instead of a gimmick game, even if it is in a fancy case... |
anthie
Biggest Dickest
3
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Posted - 2013.04.28 00:46:00 -
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anthie wrote:Setsune Rin wrote:Gé¼ =/= $ is all i have to say
im interested in it, but make a damned exchange rate adjustment we're overpaying 35 Gé¼ at this rate **** Post edited for being a complete rant, and not adding anything constructive to the discussion **** Keep it clean and constructive please. Continue with the discussion! ISD Flidais Asagiri
I'd say blow me Flidais, or well i am anyhow.
Stop screwing over your European customers like you have for the last half decade or more when you changed your prices, since some of us can remember the time when europeans also paid in USD
3/28/2006 4:00:17 AMCreditCard1M EVE Subscription $14.95 Paid
1/30/2008 8:11:19 PMCreditCardReactivate Eve-Online Account: anthie Gé¼14.95 Paid
and thats where we started to get screwed over. |
Kitsuntuar
Demonic Wolfpack Union
1
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:17:00 -
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Eddie Meth wrote:So, I think It's one of most awesome CE I've ener seen. And that shiny pod Question to CCP Any chances we can get them for PLEX? I'm ready to overpay for it.
I agree compleatly.. Given that the video card that CCP sold for plex cost 20 plex i would say that the Collector's Edition should cost no more then 10 plex each. That would be fair given the going rate for plex being about $20US so that would make it about $200US that we would be paying with plex. Placing it right on the track for how much it would cost if we bought it out right. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:27:00 -
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I want it badly....
As well as the 3 new posters they started advertizing that aren't in stock yet... I will wait for those too... |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
476
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:41:00 -
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Teven Noziroh wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:Iceland is a member of the EEC so despite not being in the EU they have to deal with certain rules, including VAT (or we'll just sell the silly little island to highest bidder).
The conversion isn't mathematically correct, but it's close enough and simple.
If it's too much money for you, then shut up and don't buy it. What do you think the VAT in Portugal is, what do you think it is in Ireland? It's not the flat 30% that CCP is charging... and were do you think the difference goes? ( hint: it's not to the EU coffers ). CCP has to pay VAT on all transaction within the EEC/EU.
It's not likely that they'll be able to sneak away from that.
A straight 1:1 between euro and usd isn't 100% correct, but it's not that bad.
And if you don't want to pay in euro then find a way to pay in usd.
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP (aka Judge) Peligro: I will find your main.
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Teven Noziroh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:21:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:Teven Noziroh wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:Iceland is a member of the EEC so despite not being in the EU they have to deal with certain rules, including VAT (or we'll just sell the silly little island to highest bidder).
The conversion isn't mathematically correct, but it's close enough and simple.
If it's too much money for you, then shut up and don't buy it. What do you think the VAT in Portugal is, what do you think it is in Ireland? It's not the flat 30% that CCP is charging... and were do you think the difference goes? ( hint: it's not to the EU coffers ). CCP has to pay VAT on all transaction within the EEC/EU. It's not likely that they'll be able to sneak away from that. A straight 1:1 between euro and usd isn't 100% correct, but it's not that bad. And if you don't want to pay in euro then find a way to pay in usd. Of course they do, that's how it is. They are however supposed to charge the VAT rate that applies to the country that the buyer is in ( if registered outside the EU ).
Instead, they charge a flat amount, VAT doesn't even show up ( which I think is actually against consumer laws in most EU countries ), and they pocket the difference.
Even if I could get VAT refunded on video games where I live, I wouldn't be able to, since I have no receipt showing how much VAT I payed, and even if, I would only be able to get the 20% VAT that applies in my country, not the 30% CCP is making me pay.
It's no coincidence that all of the EVE Store stuff is only available on US Amazon and not available to be shipped to the EU GÇô CCP simply doesn't want another outlet that deals in EUR, for the stuff they are selling.
The fact that CCP has a GBP price structure for subscription, but the CE is not offered in GBP, speaks volumes about what is going on here. |
Mr WHIMington
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:45:00 -
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I have the money to buy a set of this, the problem is that they won't ship to my place |
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