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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.29 17:48:00 -
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Something to listen to while mining: http://www.startalkradio.net/show/eureka-asteroid-mining/ There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
522
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Posted - 2013.04.29 18:45:00 -
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Why is everyone on the internet sucking Neil deGrasse Tyson's ****?
Yes I know that wasn't very lady like to ask but I need to know. My own theory is that it's because he's so popular with the Antitheism crowd. We miss you Saede. |
Metal Icarus
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
546
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:22:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Why is everyone on the internet sucking Neil deGrasse Tyson's ****?
Yes I know that wasn't very lady like to ask but I need to know. My own theory is that it's because he's so popular with the Antitheism crowd.
He is like Obama for science. A new young black guy taking on an historically white profession.
he is the new, now in black flavor, Bill Nye |
Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3165
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:43:00 -
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Well hes not big outside of America, only heard of the guy through accident really, he's not that big in the technical literature, just in the pop science angle.
Metal Icarus wrote:
He is like Obama for science. A new young black guy taking on an historically white profession.
Wait what? I think the Arabs want a word with who is new to the table with astronomy.
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Eurydia Vespasian
nova insula mining and industrial
2379
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Posted - 2013.04.29 22:39:00 -
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i think people like him because he makes a lot of sense and many tend to agree with his point of view. i first saw him on a history channel show called "the universe" idk...3 or 4 years ago. then he's been on jon stewart's daily show a few times. he's climbed his way up from obscurity.
i share a lot of viewpoints he has. he is a reasonable voice in what is becoming an increasingly unreasonable time imo. |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1160
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Posted - 2013.04.30 05:43:00 -
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he is one of my favorite scientist.speakers , because he has the gift to turn what is otherwise complex material into words most of is can understand and with a sense of humour and 'panache' I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
5264
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:04:00 -
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He is popular because he is one of those few astrophysicists who is actually personable and not locked away in a university doing nothing but thinking.
Haven't had one as eloquent since we lost Carl Sagan.
He is also the Director of the Hayden Planetarium in NYC.
Edit: and in this day and age of teaching that humans walked with the dinosaurs, we need this guy. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
524
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:33:00 -
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The sense he speaks is the obvious kinds. Attacking fundamentalists is not a feat. Just a cheap and easy target to score points with the Antitheists. We miss you Saede. |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1163
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Posted - 2013.05.01 10:27:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:The sense he speaks is the obvious kinds. Attacking fundamentalists is not a feat. Just a cheap and easy target to score points with the Antitheists.
this isn't about the different opinions and worldviews between fundamentalist and atheists , it is about and i m quoting another great scientist here
If God gave us the gift of thought and reasoning why shouldn't we be allowed to use that gift (or atleast somethiong along those lines i need to google it but i do that later) gallileo I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
525
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Posted - 2013.05.01 15:42:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:The sense he speaks is the obvious kinds. Attacking fundamentalists is not a feat. Just a cheap and easy target to score points with the Antitheists. this isn't about the different opinions and worldviews between fundamentalist and atheists , it is about and i m quoting another great scientist here If God gave us the gift of thought and reasoning why shouldn't we be allowed to use that gift (or atleast somethiong along those lines i need to google it but i do that later) gallileo
Moot point. Only the insecure need motivation to not believe in something. The reason of us needs reasons to believe.
It's laughable how much effort educated people put into finding reasons to not believe.
And the quote in your signature is actually Evelyn Beatrice Hall, not Voltaire We miss you Saede. |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
5579
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:01:00 -
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Oh, God.
You are sad.
Another person who can't understand that math and science are different from religion.
Even my Baptist Preacher of a grandfather kept the 2 separate in his head.
Science and Religion absolutely cannot speak to each other at all.
Any attempt to do so, or to justify one with the other, is nothing but mystagoguery. -áGÇ£The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.GÇ¥-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
5579
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:03:00 -
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..........and leads to idiocy like dragging religion into a thread about ASTEROID MINING.
-áGÇ£The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.GÇ¥-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
525
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:35:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Oh, God.
You are sad.
Another person who can't understand that math and science are different from religion.
Even my Baptist Preacher of a grandfather kept the 2 separate in his head.
Science and Religion absolutely cannot speak to each other at all.
Any attempt to do so, or to justify one with the other, is nothing but mystagoguery.
What's your point?
We miss you Saede. |
Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3291
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:43:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:What's your point?
His point is that you appear to have fundamentally missed the point.
Its weird watching these discussions sometimes...
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Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
92
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:48:00 -
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I don't think anyone will compare to Brian Cox, for me. His humour when he is on shows like Q.I alone steal the piece of my heart reserved for star-talkery. His willingness to give "Astrologers" the put-down they so desperately deserve in spite of the balance that he is imposed to take in debates makes me very happy.
Also, stolen from Dara O'Briain, and slightly paraphrased, Astronomy = Nom = Nom nom nom Brian Cox is delicious. Astrology. = Log = A unit of *****. Resident Haruhiist since December 2008.
Laying claim to Out of Pod Experience since 2007, plain and simple. Keep the trash out of Out Of Pod Experience, If it's EVE Related or deserves a Lock, it does not belong here. |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
526
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:49:00 -
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The very title mentions Neil deGrasse Tyson and so he has been addressed. Everything is in order. We miss you Saede. |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1165
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:00:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:pussnheels wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:The sense he speaks is the obvious kinds. Attacking fundamentalists is not a feat. Just a cheap and easy target to score points with the Antitheists. this isn't about the different opinions and worldviews between fundamentalist and atheists , it is about and i m quoting another great scientist here If God gave us the gift of thought and reasoning why shouldn't we be allowed to use that gift (or atleast somethiong along those lines i need to google it but i do that later) gallileo Moot point. Only the insecure need motivation to not believe in something. The reason of us needs reasons to believe. It's laughable how much effort educated people put into finding reasons to not believe. And the quote in your signature is actually Evelyn Beatrice Hall, not Voltaire
GÇ£I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.GÇ¥ GÇò Galileo Galilei, Letter to the Grand Duchess Christina
actually it is gallileo here is the exact quote if you want i can even give you the latin version
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
468
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:01:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:It's laughable how much effort educated people put into finding reasons to not believe. Believe what?
I believe there are purple unicorns flying between the Bermuda Portal and Russel's Teapot. In fact, it's absolutely ridiculous for you all to fight my beliefs. Saying I'm crazy is an act of aggression against by beliefs. If you do not believe with me then you are just grabbing at any way you can to find the slightest fault with my very solid and sound beliefs. Also, my arrogance, ignorance, and inability to listen to alternate viewpoints without becoming enraged are further examples of why I know what I'm talking about and anyone who disagrees with me is a blathering idiot. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
526
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:11:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:It's laughable how much effort educated people put into finding reasons to not believe. Believe what? I believe there are purple unicorns flying between the Bermuda Portal and Russel's Teapot. In fact, it's absolutely ridiculous for you all to fight my beliefs. Saying I'm crazy is an act of aggression against by beliefs. If you do not believe with me then you are just grabbing at any way you can to find the slightest fault with my very solid and sound beliefs. Also, my arrogance, ignorance, and inability to listen to alternate viewpoints without becoming enraged are further examples of why I know what I'm talking about and anyone who disagrees with me is a blathering idiot.
Each to their own.
We miss you Saede. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
469
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:24:00 -
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My dad would have loved Neil DeGrasse Tyson. He loved astronomy and space exploration almost as much as I did, maybe more way back before I knew him. He would always come home with space exploration magazines, and together we would go over the most exciting updates of the space program. Tyson is like Carl Sagan in that he has a way with words that, when combined with his experience as an astrophysicist, points out the beauty and majesty of space exploration.
I grew up not knowing that anyone had ever considered space exploration to be tied with atheism or antitheism. My dad was strongly Christian and he studied that religion almost as much as he studied space. I was brought up as a Christian, and I never saw any cognitive dissonance between believing in God and exploring space. In fact, if anything, it seems more confirmation of His wonder than anything else. Perhaps one of the biggest things that pulled me away from religion in my early years was the realization that people at my church wanted me to stop exploring. So maybe I left Christianity not because I felt it was incorrect, but because I felt it had bad ethical teachings. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
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Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3326
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:29:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:It's laughable how much effort educated people put into finding reasons to not believe. Believe what? I believe there are purple unicorns flying between the Bermuda Portal and Russel's Teapot. In fact, it's absolutely ridiculous for you all to fight my beliefs. Saying I'm crazy is an act of aggression against by beliefs. If you do not believe with me then you are just grabbing at any way you can to find the slightest fault with my very solid and sound beliefs. Also, my arrogance, ignorance, and inability to listen to alternate viewpoints without becoming enraged are further examples of why I know what I'm talking about and anyone who disagrees with me is a blathering idiot. Each to their own. In Europe you would in some rare, though becoming more common explain the concept of a God in the first place. Theists are becoming more likely to have to justify why do not believe in repeatable observations and statistics more than a centuries old book.
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
526
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:36:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:It's laughable how much effort educated people put into finding reasons to not believe. Believe what? I believe there are purple unicorns flying between the Bermuda Portal and Russel's Teapot. In fact, it's absolutely ridiculous for you all to fight my beliefs. Saying I'm crazy is an act of aggression against by beliefs. If you do not believe with me then you are just grabbing at any way you can to find the slightest fault with my very solid and sound beliefs. Also, my arrogance, ignorance, and inability to listen to alternate viewpoints without becoming enraged are further examples of why I know what I'm talking about and anyone who disagrees with me is a blathering idiot. Each to their own. In Europe you would in some rare, though becoming more common explain the concept of a God in the first place. Theists are becoming more likely to have to justify why do not believe in repeatable observations and statistics more than a centuries old book.
We don't have to explain anything. We only have to justify our believes to ourselves. We miss you Saede. |
Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3326
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:40:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote: We don't have to explain anything. We only have to justify our believes to ourselves.
Then why are you here?
And that answer made way too much sense now I think about it.
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
526
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:00:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote: We don't have to explain anything. We only have to justify our believes to ourselves.
Then why are you here? And that answer made way too much sense now I think about it.
On the Eve forums? Because I play the game.
We miss you Saede. |
Commissar Kate
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2896
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:03:00 -
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Lets just forget about religion and governments and mine the **** out of asteroids Set Lasers for Fun!!! |
Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
94
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:16:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Kirjava wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote: We don't have to explain anything. We only have to justify our believes to ourselves.
Then why are you here? And that answer made way too much sense now I think about it. On the Eve forums? Because I play the game. I'll put this bluntly for future reference.
I stay out of the few [shortlived, due to rules] religious threads, as besides the fact they are against the forum rules they are discussing something for which I care not. I can contribute nothing to them, only friction that brings no interesting discussion nor does it contribute in any way to keeping the thread above bar.
I implore you to follow this example, and keep out of threads in which you feel you would specifically spread friction and nothing else. As an alternative to opening a thread and leaving something like this behind-
Angelique Duchemin wrote:My own theory is that it's because he's so popular with the Antitheism crowd.
Which, unlike your own personal beliefs, is entirely opinionated bull excrement designed to raise a debate which will cause a whole lot of friction.
You should instead, and promptly, dismiss the thread, and move on. Bringing Antitheism into a discussion about Astronomy, or an Astronomer in particular, is about as welcome as me bringing up Astronomy in a religious thread. This is not a case of contrary opinions not allowed, this is a case of "let's not drudge up peoples belief systems at all".
And, Especially no doing so in Out of Pod experience please. I have a hard enough time tolerating some of the crap that is perfectly in line with the rules.
Cheers. Resident Haruhiist since December 2008.
Laying claim to Out of Pod Experience since 2007, plain and simple. Keep the trash out of Out Of Pod Experience, If it's EVE Related or deserves a Lock, it does not belong here. |
Reuben Johnson
Gal-Min Industries
91
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:19:00 -
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Posting in yet another anit-Christian hate thread.
Im getting real tired of all these self called atheist and their war on Chrisitanity becuase they chose to live immoral lives. You are not athiests, you are heathensof youre own religion, declaring war on youre God in our name. If you disagree with something youre church preaches, go find another church. Don't come running over here and claimed you're a victimized atheist. You're an amoral Christian. You still beleive in God. It shows. If you were an atheists, you haven't this war on God and God's word, because a true Atheist wouldn't declare war on something that doesn't exist.
Stop using suedo atheism as excuse to bash those you hate, it's disgusting. Science was created by Christians to learn about the world God created for them. Science is now defiled by the fact it's moved away from it's Christian roots of exploring God's world, and gotten in bed with secular governments who use Grants and loans as carrots to get science to "discover" whatever it wants them to discover. Peer review? Doesnt exist. It's a bully pulpit to beat down dessimation. How did they get 90% of the science communtiy to go along with Global Warming? Easy Al Gore and all hisr followers (of equal zealousness of any religion) to threaten them with pulling of their government grants and university funding> That got many of them...and the rest cowered under pressure for fear of being fired or black-listed.
Like a non-practicing Christian who still believes in God, but has lost faith in the teachings of the church, I am a non-practising Atheist, I still believe in science, but have lost total faith in the science community to be objectionable. |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
526
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:20:00 -
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Blane Xero wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:Kirjava wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote: We don't have to explain anything. We only have to justify our believes to ourselves.
Then why are you here? And that answer made way too much sense now I think about it. On the Eve forums? Because I play the game. I'll put this bluntly for future reference. I stay out of the few [shortlived, due to rules] religious threads, as besides the fact they are against the forum rules they are discussing something for which I care not. I can contribute nothing to them, only friction that brings no interesting discussion nor does it contribute in any way to keeping the thread above bar. I implore you to follow this example, and keep out of threads in which you feel you would specifically spread friction and nothing else. As an alternative to opening a thread and leaving something like this behind- Angelique Duchemin wrote:My own theory is that it's because he's so popular with the Antitheism crowd. Which, unlike your own personal beliefs, is entirely opinionated bull excrement designed to raise a debate which will cause a whole lot of friction. You should instead, and promptly, dismiss the thread, and move on. Bringing Antitheism into a discussion about Astronomy, or an Astronomer in particular, is about as welcome as me bringing up Astronomy in a religious thread. This is not a case of contrary opinions not allowed, this is a case of "let's not drudge up peoples belief systems at all". And, Especially no doing so in Out of Pod experience please. I have a hard enough time tolerating some of the crap that is perfectly in line with the rules. Cheers.
You're entitled to your opinion.
We miss you Saede. |
Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
94
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:21:00 -
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Reuben Johnson wrote:Posting in yet another anit-Christian hate thread.
Im getting real tired of all these self called atheist and their war on Chrisitanity becuase they chose to live immoral lives. You are not athiests, you are heathensof youre own religion, declaring war on youre God in our name. If you disagree with something youre church preaches, go find another church. Don't come running over here and claimed you're a victimized atheist. You're an amoral Christian. You still beleive in God. It shows. If you were an atheists, you haven't this war on God and God's word, because a true Atheist wouldn't declare war on something that doesn't exist.
Stop using suedo atheism as excuse to bash those you hate, it's disgusting. Science was created by Christians to learn about the world God created for them. Science is now defiled by the fact it's moved away from it's Christian roots of exploring God's world, and gotten in bed with secular governments who use Grants and loans as carrots to get science to "discover" whatever it wants them to discover. Peer review? Doesnt exist. It's a bully pulpit to beat down dessimation. How did they get 90% of the science communtiy to go along with Global Warming? Easy Al Gore and all hisr followers (of equal zealousness of any religion) to threaten them with pulling of their government grants and university funding> That got many of them...and the rest cowered under pressure for fear of being fired or black-listed.
Like a non-practicing Christian who still believes in God, but has lost faith in the teachings of the church, I am a non-practising Atheist, I still believe in science, but have lost total faith in the science community to be objectionable. Hoi, you, see the post I made immediately before you. Then kindly edit your post and leave the premises. Resident Haruhiist since December 2008.
Laying claim to Out of Pod Experience since 2007, plain and simple. Keep the trash out of Out Of Pod Experience, If it's EVE Related or deserves a Lock, it does not belong here. |
Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3342
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:27:00 -
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Reuben Johnson wrote:stuff
Wait... what?...
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ |
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