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Chief Ambassador
Eve Embassy Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:20:00 -
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Seems to me the price of supers should go way down after goo and ore changes in Odyssey. What do you guys think?
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/resource-shakeup-blog/ http://themittani.com/features/economic-implications-odyssey http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/resource-companion-blog/ |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.04.30 12:58:00 -
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Depends on if they're T2 rigged. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.30 13:13:00 -
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idk how goo prices should affect super prices, but I guess the dropping mineral price due the coming changes will result in lower build costs.So if there are actually enough builders to fill the market the prices for supers could drop |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
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Posted - 2013.04.30 13:17:00 -
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Sabre Rolf wrote:idk how goo prices should affect super prices Ability to pay.
Many a Titan has been purchased with moon gold.
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Rob Lorence
The Last Call. B O R G
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Posted - 2013.04.30 13:23:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Sabre Rolf wrote:idk how goo prices should affect super prices Ability to pay. Many a Titan has been purchased with moon gold.
The ability to pay (more players having more money) is not the same as prices dropping as stated by the OP |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
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Posted - 2013.04.30 13:39:00 -
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Rob Lorence wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Sabre Rolf wrote:idk how goo prices should affect super prices Ability to pay. Many a Titan has been purchased with moon gold. The ability to pay (more players having more money) is not the same as prices dropping as stated by the OP And if people have less money, what happens to super prices then? |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:37:00 -
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I don't see how demand for supers could possibly tank anymore than it has, and the very few alliances who subsidized supercap purchases are well placed to continue to do so, tech just being an easy answer to a problem with many solutions for the top-end alliances.
If anything odyssey will drive conflict, and thereby drive demand through their use and destruction. |
Chief Ambassador
Eve Embassy Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:51:00 -
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I think some of you are missing the Elephant in the room. Major buff to mineral volume, including Trit in null. Should make supers much less costly to build. |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.04.30 15:04:00 -
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Chief Ambassador wrote:I think some of you are missing the Elephant in the room. Major buff to mineral volume, including Trit in null. Should make supers much less costly to build.
Right, because you included the moon change without any explanation, so we were trying to figure out wtf you were talking about. |
Dasquirrel715
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.30 18:27:00 -
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In all honesty I'd bet that they will probably stay roughly where they are. With the coming mineral changes and the impending large amounts of lowends, we will likely see a reduction in mineral cost; however, with the changes in ice prices there will definitely be an increase in cost simply to fuel the tower they are built on and the towers the BPO's are researched on. |
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Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.30 18:53:00 -
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Dasquirrel715 wrote: however, with the changes in ice prices there will definitely be an increase in cost simply to fuel the tower they are built on and the towers the BPO's are researched on.
yep, THAT's gona make the difference |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.04.30 19:02:00 -
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Sabre Rolf wrote:Dasquirrel715 wrote: however, with the changes in ice prices there will definitely be an increase in cost simply to fuel the tower they are built on and the towers the BPO's are researched on. yep, THAT's gona make the difference
Ya, I've never built so much as a cruiser, and that sounds really wrong to me. I would put fuel costs at roughly "negligible" when talking about super production.
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Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
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Posted - 2013.05.01 12:12:00 -
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Well ice is how they get around too, so that may effect demand hence price, big active SC fleets use tons but then 0.0 is quiet, at the moment.
The analogy with rl car sales and fuel/gas prices doesn't really work because if it did then you'd buy a car then stop playing life. |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.05.01 15:40:00 -
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Captain IQ wrote:The analogy with rl car sales and fuel/gas prices doesn't really work because if it did then you'd buy a car then stop playing life.
This is true. My gut says this might in a large part be shadow nerf to power projection (ie PL), but I'm reserving judgment until we see where the prices for both fuel and moonpoo stabilize.
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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 13:59:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Rob Lorence wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Sabre Rolf wrote:idk how goo prices should affect super prices Ability to pay. Many a Titan has been purchased with moon gold. The ability to pay (more players having more money) is not the same as prices dropping as stated by the OP And if people have less money, what happens to super prices then?
What happens is, people pool their ISK for their first titan, then a 2nd and so on and so fourth. |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:17:00 -
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Capitals and freighters will drop (should drop) in price, Jump Freighters as well.
The thing that makes Super Caps expensive is they are time stamped and in limited production. Also, they can't really be stored or stock piled so it isn't like someone will have 15 Avatar Titans in back up. |
Mr Dynamic
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:23:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Capitals and freighters will drop (should drop) in price, Jump Freighters as well.
The thing that makes Super Caps expensive is they are time stamped and in limited production. Also, they can't really be stored or stock piled so it isn't like someone will have 15 Avatar Titans in back up.
HEY GUYS WHAT IS A HOLDING PILOT CAN SOMEONE TELL ME PLS RUS ))) every other bid in this thread is an alt of mine, pick the cheapest one and I'll pay that much.-á |
Chief Ambassador
Eve Embassy Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2013.05.03 10:53:00 -
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I project that the price of supers will go down by around 30%. |
Gary Bell
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 12:58:00 -
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Mr Dynamic wrote:Sisohiv wrote:Capitals and freighters will drop (should drop) in price, Jump Freighters as well.
The thing that makes Super Caps expensive is they are time stamped and in limited production. Also, they can't really be stored or stock piled so it isn't like someone will have 15 Avatar Titans in back up. HEY GUYS WHAT IS A HOLDING PILOT CAN SOMEONE TELL ME PLS RUS ))) also, have you heard of a Capital Ship Maintenence Array? MAYBE YOU SHOULD EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU PRETEND TO HAVE AN OPINION *disclaimer* I don't know if anyone is retareded enough to leave a titan / super in a box that is a CSAA
Umm.. Yeah you dont build supers I assume.. Most people aside from maybe the very biggest producers would ever use holding toons to store caps.. as that represents a huge isk investment just sitting there..
Also alot of the bigger alliances do use CSMAs they are just very tightly controlled and usually not left there for long periods of time.. But your average producer.. 90 percent of them just build to order so..
CAPS LOCK IS COOL.. derp |
Chief Ambassador
Eve Embassy Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2013.05.04 02:00:00 -
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What will happen to the price of supers?
1. Stay the same. 2. Drop ( by what % ) 3. Go up. |
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Hemmo Paskiainen
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.05 10:09:00 -
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In this stable 0.0 super risk free timeframe, many super are in production. Some supers dont get used alot and prices are based on easyness to build and minerals.
Expect ppl to temporarly trade in their supers to avoid isk loss Expect a firesale frenzy to start soon as demand will be down alot more than it is now ;)
START SELLING YOUR SUPERS NOW!!! CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
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Mr Dynamic
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.06 16:45:00 -
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ITT: Boss Tier market manipulation
every other bid in this thread is an alt of mine, pick the cheapest one and I'll pay that much.-á |
Zor Isu
Eve Blackjack
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:52:00 -
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I would think there are many supers in production at the moment, although i don't know what they plan on doing with them since null space is just a big sea of blue.
Maybe goons and Test will start selling ready made power block alliances as turnkey systems/regions, here you go! here's your titans, here's your supers, and the JB's are all set up, here's your deep safe bm's, and here's your CTA schedule... welcome to the machine!!!! www.eveblackjack.com
how to get started tutorial-á http://youtu.be/6OLJmTuvqlM |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:07:00 -
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Except there aren't a lot in production and nullsec isn't a "sea of blue", but thanks for sharing your uninformed opinion and regurgitating bs you heard in some scrub chat channel all in one post.
Most impressive. |
Implying Implications
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:17:00 -
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Zor Isu wrote:I would think there are many supers in production at the moment, although i don't know what they plan on doing with them since null space is just a big sea of blue.
Maybe goons and Test will start selling ready made power block alliances as turnkey systems/regions, here you go! here's your titans, here's your supers, and the JB's are all set up, here's your deep safe bm's, and here's your CTA schedule... welcome to the machine!!!! This is what hisec pubbie scrubbies actually believe. sÅ»µä¢püäpü»µ¡út+¬pÇé |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2013.05.17 15:06:00 -
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Chief Ambassador wrote:I think some of you are missing the Elephant in the room. Major buff to mineral volume, including Trit in null. Should make supers much less costly to build.
I think they were ignoring it, not missing it. Capital parts will be less expensive to make after Odyssey. There is more to Super Capitals than the minerals of course and someone needs to pay all the costs associated with building them. Smart alliances don't build Super Capitals to sell to you and me though. NC sort of showed us what that gets you. |
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