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The VC's
Spack Force 5
144
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Posted - 2013.06.20 12:35:00 -
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There is a distinction between playing solo and flying solo. I mostly fly solo but I am in touch with other likeminded players through intel channels and forums and such. I certainly feel part of a player community. My choice to fly solo often has more to do with RL patterns than preferred playstyle and I suspect that may be behind many other players decision to go solo too. One in five people are Chinese. There are five people in my family, so one must be Chinese. It's either my mum, my dad, my older brother Colin or my younger brother Ho-Cha-Chu. But I think it's Colin |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
1203
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Posted - 2013.06.20 12:46:00 -
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Davis TetrisKing wrote:Recently I've noticed a bit more emphasis on the forums about players who play eve 'solo'. From my impression from the forums people tend to dislike soloers (I've read 'eve is a multiplayer game, go back to...' quite a few times lately) so I'm interested to get a bit of a feedback as to what people do and don't like about soloers or solo activities in the game.
*Skip to below for tl;dr*
I'll start off by saying that I definitely have a vested interest in the topic. I am what I think most people would consider a solo player in eve. I pretty rarely group up with other people to accomplish things and having recently moved out to low sec spend most of my time running sites, ratting and generally managing PI on my own.
To me this doesn't mean I have no interaction with other players. I'm not playing a single player game. I'm duking it out on my own in a world full of other pilots that might be able to help me, that I might be able to benefit from or (more likely) are out to get me if I give them a chance. This makes my 'solo' experience far more exciting than anything any single player game could ever give me.
I'm a bit too much of a risk averse carebear at the moment to really get into PvP, but I love the excitement of getting chased around lowsec trying to dodge pirates etc. The way I'm on edge when hauling stuff the few jumps back to high sec. I love raiding WHs knowing that there's a good chance I could die to another enterprising pilot who knows their dscan well enough to drop probes right on me and land on me before I know whats going on. To me the 'solo' experience is so much enriched by the fact that other people are out there.
*tl;dr*
I understand that 'eve is a multiplayer game', and the best way to thrive is to join forces with others. But I like that even if it might not be the 'best' way to go, I can carve out my own piece of eve on my own if I want in a world that is affected by others.
So what are people's main objections to people like myself playing solo?
Play any way you like. Seriously, if you are happy to play solo, then why change that ? It does not matter what anyone else wants you to think or say. You play the way you want, the way you feel comfortable with, period.
Sure, there are very good things about being in a decent corporation, but there's nothing in any rules anywhere that says you must not play solo. You may find yourself limited to a broad range of activities, but do what you do best and do it well.
Anyone trying to tell you how to play is bored. If people are advising you what to do, that's just advice, probably good advice, but you are still the individual making the game 'yours' in your own way.
o7
Personnel Division Director - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse CEO Sanctuary Pact Alliance --áSanctuary Pact |
Gealbhan
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
300
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Posted - 2013.06.20 12:51:00 -
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Saira Rasielle wrote:Honestly, i just suck at this game. PVP seems an impenetrable tangled mass of ideas where i can't even find the loose end of one thread.
Industry... again, i just don't know where to start.
My point for posting at all is because I really want to do things in this game. But I've been unlucky in my attempts to learn and in the people i seek guidance from.
TL;DR I've had a rough time and I just want to get involved in something more than 'Lets blow stuff up just to get a highscore'. I could play galaga for that. I've been at this game for 3 years+ and have yet to truly get into it.
But i still want to. I'm still Trying.
a month, a month had passed and you just had to necro it didn't ya. I hope you're proud of yourself as you eat your pudding for breakfast just think of all the forum regulars you've traumatized with you're careless disregard for the "no necro" rule. How you sleep at night in your sponge bob pj's is beyond me. Because of you I now have to go and cry to a pat boone record and rock back and forth in a sea of uncertainty because my forum world has been shattered.
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Amarra Mandalin
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
662
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Posted - 2013.06.20 13:09:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:[quote=ShahFluffers]I
The crux of the matter is, they DO WANT to partake in social activities, they just have various constraints that prevent them from joining more organized entities.
Very true.
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Therefore the new gen of MMOs that have those "quick join" features are awesome for a "casual". Once I thought those quick join features would not create friendship but I found out it's not true. Out of 10 groups you will find the 1-2 guys you just like to stick around and add to the contact list for later.
I had a love/hate relationship with a quick join feature in another game. Eventually I met a player though this feature that landed me in a corp/guild of great people.
Conversely, I had a major sense of dread joining these things (or even groups formed from chat) as some players are so under-skilled and ill-equipped it made the endeavor a waste of time. And while the group would wipe out due to this, at least players didn't lose Isk.
I'm just not sure how you would implement something like this in EVE, when people's Isk is on the line. Then there are the eveeel people who might join just to see everyone killed.
I like the spirit behind the idea but people smarter than me would have to figure out how to make it work.
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symolan
BamBam Inc.
1
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Posted - 2013.07.09 15:37:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: and they have got reasons as yours: RL > EVE.
and that's probably the reason some hate soloing. EVE should > RL in their view.
As I was leader of a guild in another MMO, I know how time-intensive these things can get.
And having kids, I don't have that time any more.
Also, I see the need for TS, but that collides with my current playstyle... (on a notebook, wife at the side watching TV... she just don't like me TSing:/)
so, it's a given that I keep up soloing. Unfortunately. |
OffBeaT
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.07.09 16:14:00 -
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Most solo players realy dont have the time to corp it so they just hang out or they are so hunted for the past history of the game most newer players dont understand they cant be with everything going on.
The Past is the Past.. True Born out of Sansha's blood. A true Lord to Be! True Blood! |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
170
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:32:00 -
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i don't want to offend anyone but I have a great dislike of MMO players in general. in my experience they tend to be dysfunctional toxic individuals. even the odd ones who don't outright annoy me I try to avoid doing stuff with.
I PLAY MMOs to compete against other players, MMO does not mean exclusively playing with, it can mean playing against. Unfortunately CCP and many EvE players don't appear to understand that. |
Cannibal Kane
Temple of Kane
2015
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:52:00 -
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dark heartt wrote:I...
The other major thing is that they feel solo players don't bring any emergent gameplay to the sandbox, so they don't contribute anything to the game.
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98% of my game play I do my own thing by myself. However my solitude does effects a vast array of corps and alliances. Just because I do not play well with others does not mean I do not contribute in any way to others game play. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Jonny Monroe
Unlicensed Medical Professionals
17
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:57:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:i don't want to offend anyone but I have a great dislike of MMO players in general. in my experience they tend to be dysfunctional toxic individuals. even the odd ones who don't outright annoy me I try to avoid doing stuff with.
I PLAY MMOs to compete against other players, MMO does not mean exclusively playing with, it can mean playing against. Unfortunately CCP and many EvE players don't appear to understand that.
A very quick look around these forums confirms your first statement about MMO players. EVE is in my top 5 list of worst game communities, alongside XBL and youtube.
On the topic at hand; I play small corp play with my friends - Missions when we need to buffer the wallet and lowsec roaming when we don't. However, I find myself with more time to play than them (I work form home) and as a result I do a lot of solo play.
The thing about solo content in EVE is there isn't any. Everything you CAN do as solo is designed to be done better by groups. There could be a number of reasons for this; either CCP doesn't want any solo content, is afraid what true solo PVE content might do to the economy, or just can't be bothered to properly balance it. Mission running is one of the more common solo activities, but because it can be done in groups they have to balance around that, both in difficulty and reward. Would I like to see some special missions with Unstable Acceleration Gates that self destruct after one use, enforcing solo missions that are properly balanced to provide a challenge to the solo player and not the group? Sure. But it's CCPs game and if they don't want to support that playstyle they don't have to. Like any business, if you don't support a specific type of customer you won't have that customer for long. CCP know this, so they've obviously considered the potential gains/losses of supporting solo play and decided against it. Which means that solo players are either a significant minority or are happy with shoehorned content not really designed for them. I don't have the data to say which it is, but I suspect the latter. |
Freighdee Katt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
266
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:58:00 -
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The guy who runs the 100-ship ice mining multi-box farm plays "solo." He seems to enjoy the game. And CCP sure enjoys his $1,500 per month. |
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
394
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:58:00 -
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Amarra Mandalin wrote: Conversely, I had a major sense of dread joining these things (or even groups formed from chat) as some players are so under-skilled and ill-equipped it made the endeavor a waste of time. And while the group would wipe out due to this, at least players didn't lose Isk.
I'm just not sure how you would implement something like this in EVE, when people's Isk is on the line. Then there are the eveeel people who might join just to see everyone killed.
I like the spirit behind the idea but people smarter than me would have to figure out how to make it work.
Just like LFG and LFR was implemented in THAT game.
EvE is like WoW with the ninjas and the hunter that pulls the boss or mob so he can fiend death while others die (and get the repair bill). No different than the guy asking in incursions to join a fleet, you have no idea what he's upto even as an innocent Logi 5.
Each game offers risk vs reward.
It would be nice to have something similar to what RIFT had with dynamic groups. Loot is automatically divided via the goodie bag technique (or can be deposited in the station you last left, via using all those NPC haulers in this game). That would encourage players to mix and mingle and socialize, and train in learning how to fleet (as many don't know it's mechanics). That's group PvE without the hassles of trying to get a group together (which even in corps in EvE is a chore).
And if you want to encourage PvP while even mining, this is a technique perfect for it. Mining zone pops up, miners and protectors arrive, as well as James and crew. Then mining will be interesting as they watch the fireworks show as protectors and James et al go toe to toe. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Nuglord
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
5
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:20:00 -
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I've done a little bit of solo, nothing major, mostly frigates.
Two of the biggest pitfalls of a solo player are that many times, people playing by themselves have a sense of entitlement, i.e. being upset after a dishonored 1v1, or getting frustrated with enemy e-war, and feeling like you'll never accomplish anything and that you're just wasting your time.
As for the first point, its important to remember that Eve is indeed a sandbox, and no matter how frustrated you become, nobody will ever be obligated to play the game the way you want them to because that is how it is fundamentally designed. Everybody gets a little irritated at times, especially when you lose a close fight. The important thing is that even if you do end up smacking them a little, that you learn from it and better yourself as a pilot, and as a person by improving your attitude and picking better fights.
In regards to feeling like you're wasting your time, I believe it's up to the player to decide if that's true for themselves. If you're not having fun, there's no reason to keep doing it. There are plenty of corporations out there with more relaxed CTA or otherwise mandatory fleet policies which are perfect places to still get experience in fleets, but have some more reliable territory to practice flying solo, picking fights, and the like.
Don't let what you think is the "cool" way to play burden you into something you don't want to be doing. That said, if you are having trouble with fits, there are a massive variety of resources available to help you. I would check the killboards of known solo pilots and see what kinds of things they're flying, it might give you a starting point for something to try. Additionally, always remember that you shouldn't fly what you can't afford to lose.
Best of luck! |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
170
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:40:00 -
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Nuglord wrote:I've done a little bit of solo, nothing major, mostly frigates.
Two of the biggest pitfalls of a solo player are that many times, people playing by themselves have a sense of entitlement, i.e. being upset after a dishonored 1v1, or getting frustrated with enemy e-war, and feeling like you'll never accomplish anything and that you're just wasting your time.
As for the first point, its important to remember that Eve is indeed a sandbox, and no matter how frustrated you become, nobody will ever be obligated to play the game the way you want them to because that is how it is fundamentally designed. Everybody gets a little irritated at times, especially when you lose a close fight. The important thing is that even if you do end up smacking them a little, that you learn from it and better yourself as a pilot, and as a person by improving your attitude and picking better fights.
In regards to feeling like you're wasting your time, I believe it's up to the player to decide if that's true for themselves. If you're not having fun, there's no reason to keep doing it. There are plenty of corporations out there with more relaxed CTA or otherwise mandatory fleet policies which are perfect places to still get experience in fleets, but have some more reliable territory to practice flying solo, picking fights, and the like.
Don't let what you think is the "cool" way to play burden you into something you don't want to be doing. That said, if you are having trouble with fits, there are a massive variety of resources available to help you. I would check the killboards of known solo pilots and see what kinds of things they're flying, it might give you a starting point for something to try. Additionally, always remember that you shouldn't fly what you can't afford to lose.
Best of luck! I liked your post however I do think its the fleet / gang people that really feel a sense of entitlement rather than the solo types. As I soloer I have accepted that and adapted to the idea that multiple pilots have an advantage with multiple ships, dedicated EWAR, exclusive use of rep drones, cap, armor, shield transfer, leadership buffs, link buffs but they tend to still whine and moan at any suggestion of improving solo play despite any buff to solo play never outweighing the natural advantage of multiple pilots and dedicated ship types into a gang. |
Kordus Aelar
University of Caille Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:45:00 -
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So I have been playing for about 10 days now. All solo. And for now, I am fine with this for several reasons.
1. I am getting into EVE at my own pace. I am not a "jump into the deep end and learn to swim when I sart drowning" kind of guy. I like to ease into things. I can figure out what it is in New Eden that I want to do, without the pressures of a Corp trying to push me in their preferred direction.
2. I am flying around in hisec. I don't expect to see many people around to group up here anyway. So I haven't really had the opportunity to team up yet.
3. My initial choice of profession (exploration) kinda lends itself to a lot of solo play.
4. I am very deliberate when choosing to be social. Asking questions in help chat is an exception. This is why it is always hard for me to find a guild in my games.
5. Perhaps most importantly, I just plain flat out don't trust a single one of you. I have read and heard the horror stories of people getting scammed, ransomed, podded for no reason and all sorts of other nastiness. If it happens to me, it happens. But my guard is waaaaay up.
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
394
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:59:00 -
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Kordus Aelar wrote:So I have been playing for about 10 days now. All solo. And for now, I am fine with this for several reasons.
1. I am getting into EVE at my own pace. I am not a "jump into the deep end and learn to swim when I sart drowning" kind of guy. I like to ease into things. I can figure out what it is in New Eden that I want to do, without the pressures of a Corp trying to push me in their preferred direction.
2. I am flying around in hisec. I don't expect to see many people around to group up here anyway. So I haven't really had the opportunity to team up yet.
3. My initial choice of profession (exploration) kinda lends itself to a lot of solo play.
4. I am very deliberate when choosing to be social. Asking questions in help chat is an exception. This is why it is always hard for me to find a guild in my games.
5. Perhaps most importantly, I just plain flat out don't trust a single one of you. I have read and heard the horror stories of people getting scammed, ransomed, podded for no reason and all sorts of other nastiness. If it happens to me, it happens. But my guard is waaaaay up.
Alt player. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Max Godsnottlingson
Bitter Veterans
175
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:25:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:Before anyone posts the obvious "we are solo and we fund eve and CCP are stupid because they listen to forum trolls".
CCP knows exactly who's paying their bills, they have a section of their staff dedicated to knowing who pays their bills.
You can post random data from eve, but CCP has all the data, they don't need you and your data is irrelevant.
If CCP decides to kill off solo play than it's based on data that is superior to your random guess.
I'll be here, learning, adapting and making more isk.
You know, that is so important that it needs repeating.
Eve employ a team of ecconomist, led by one of Europe's most respected people in that field. My wife used to teach ecconomics at our local Uni and she was familier with his works, and she knows squat about gaming.
It doesn't matter who you are, the leader of the biggest null sec alliance pigged of at 'erks' like me who are nibbling away at their exploration resources. Or being a solo 'erk' like me doing my own thing, where I want and when I want no matter what anybody else says. Well no matter what anybody who has nothing to do with CCP says!
For me, the game doesn't need changing for me to solo, and when it does change as Eve often does, I will have to review my 'lines' to see where my brand of solo play needs to be altered. |
Lina Thamaris
Vicis Inter Astrum
8
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:31:00 -
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Xavier Quo wrote:Me too. Solo losec exploration, avoid pirates, interacting with random people on your journey, that is what eve is for me.
I think sometimes CCP doesn't get that for a lot of people it's a time thing. Sometimes I can only play for an hour or two a week due to work and RL interests. Waiting around for fleets etc is simply not an option for me 90% of the time and I'm guessing for a lot of others as well.
Incentivising group play simply won't work on me, no matter how big the incentive, and making it obvious that you are losing out for being solo in certain situations is a huge mistake in game design.
The time issue is my main reason why I mostly do things solo, too. All the group activities just take too much time. I only every have a maximum of 2 hours online time in the evening, and that's just not enough for any type of multiplayer. It would be great if there were more options that require less time investment that are geared towards multiplayer. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
394
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:44:00 -
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Lina Thamaris wrote:Xavier Quo wrote:Me too. Solo losec exploration, avoid pirates, interacting with random people on your journey, that is what eve is for me.
I think sometimes CCP doesn't get that for a lot of people it's a time thing. Sometimes I can only play for an hour or two a week due to work and RL interests. Waiting around for fleets etc is simply not an option for me 90% of the time and I'm guessing for a lot of others as well.
Incentivising group play simply won't work on me, no matter how big the incentive, and making it obvious that you are losing out for being solo in certain situations is a huge mistake in game design. The time issue is my main reason why I mostly do things solo, too. All the group activities just take too much time. I only every have a maximum of 2 hours online time in the evening, and that's just not enough for any type of multiplayer. It would be great if there were more options that require less time investment that are geared towards multiplayer.
I've always said my wish is for one day we'll have a MMO that allows solo play (or at most CO-OP, as some of us play with friends and family) offline, but we connect online to socialize and/or to market with others. This way the pressure to hurry is gone, and we can do RL stuff while still gaming (why folks are AFKing, as we're multitasking RL and online "life").
Remember that Christmas season in WoW back in 2009 and doing a dungeon in LFG, for example. Bunch of ladies from around the country, and we're baking for the holidays while still trying to level toons. We were in the dungeons, but took breaks to check the cookies and cakes, washing dishes and other things. A normally 20 minute run, turned out to be over 3hrs. It was fun overall, and the time it took to complete it was oblivious to us.
The big thing about MMOs isn't so much the grouping, it's the socialization and all things connected to it. It's not a FPS game of 30 minute matches, it's a long term time sink that's suppose to be more than just killing things. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
8105
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:07:00 -
[229] - Quote
simply put, haters gonna hate. You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |
Rico Minali
The Straw Men
1309
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:08:00 -
[230] - Quote
Good post.
After years of huge coalition play, I actually play more or less solo now, in a small corp with another player, we arn't on at the same time very often and we simply do as we please. We have some communal chat channels and so on, and of course interact with players all the time, so to be frank no one really plays Eve solo anyway. You may do things by yourself but you are never alone in the game.
Play how you want and don't listen to the haters from either side. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
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Kordus Aelar
University of Caille Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.10 18:48:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Kordus Aelar wrote:So I have been playing for about 10 days now. All solo. And for now, I am fine with this for several reasons.
1. I am getting into EVE at my own pace. I am not a "jump into the deep end and learn to swim when I sart drowning" kind of guy. I like to ease into things. I can figure out what it is in New Eden that I want to do, without the pressures of a Corp trying to push me in their preferred direction.
2. I am flying around in hisec. I don't expect to see many people around to group up here anyway. So I haven't really had the opportunity to team up yet.
3. My initial choice of profession (exploration) kinda lends itself to a lot of solo play.
4. I am very deliberate when choosing to be social. Asking questions in help chat is an exception. This is why it is always hard for me to find a guild in my games.
5. Perhaps most importantly, I just plain flat out don't trust a single one of you. I have read and heard the horror stories of people getting scammed, ransomed, podded for no reason and all sorts of other nastiness. If it happens to me, it happens. But my guard is waaaaay up.
Alt player. If you are suggesting that my character is someone's alt, you are 100% wrong.
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
397
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Posted - 2013.07.10 18:58:00 -
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Kordus Aelar wrote:If you are suggesting that my character is someone's alt, you are 100% wrong.
It's not what you state is the tip off, it's how you state it...complete with cultural nuances. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Kordus Aelar
University of Caille Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.10 19:33:00 -
[233] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Kordus Aelar wrote:If you are suggesting that my character is someone's alt, you are 100% wrong.
It's not what you state is the tip off, it's how you state it...complete with cultural nuances.
either way, you are still 100% wrong. but it doesn't matter, you are gonna think what you are going to think. |
Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
82
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:47:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Kordus Aelar wrote:If you are suggesting that my character is someone's alt, you are 100% wrong.
It's not what you state is the tip off, it's how you state it...complete with cultural nuances. Your posts make it obvious all your EVE characters are alts of WoW character. Just saying. |
samualvimes
Aliastra Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:53:00 -
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Davis TetrisKing wrote:Recently I've noticed a bit more emphasis on the forums about players who play eve 'solo'. From my impression from the forums people tend to dislike soloers (I've read 'eve is a multiplayer game, go back to...' quite a few times lately) so I'm interested to get a bit of a feedback as to what people do and don't like about soloers or solo activities in the game.
*Skip to below for tl;dr*
I'll start off by saying that I definitely have a vested interest in the topic. I am what I think most people would consider a solo player in eve. I pretty rarely group up with other people to accomplish things and having recently moved out to low sec spend most of my time running sites, ratting and generally managing PI on my own.
To me this doesn't mean I have no interaction with other players. I'm not playing a single player game. I'm duking it out on my own in a world full of other pilots that might be able to help me, that I might be able to benefit from or (more likely) are out to get me if I give them a chance. This makes my 'solo' experience far more exciting than anything any single player game could ever give me.
I'm a bit too much of a risk averse carebear at the moment to really get into PvP, but I love the excitement of getting chased around lowsec trying to dodge pirates etc. The way I'm on edge when hauling stuff the few jumps back to high sec. I love raiding WHs knowing that there's a good chance I could die to another enterprising pilot who knows their dscan well enough to drop probes right on me and land on me before I know whats going on. To me the 'solo' experience is so much enriched by the fact that other people are out there.
*tl;dr*
I understand that 'eve is a multiplayer game', and the best way to thrive is to join forces with others. But I like that even if it might not be the 'best' way to go, I can carve out my own piece of eve on my own if I want in a world that is affected by others.
So what are people's main objections to people like myself playing solo?
The way I see it is that EVE can be played in a solo way and that should in no way be taken away from people to be able to play outside of a group. HOWEVER noone should be able to shut out the multiplayer part from affecting them.
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maCH'EttE
Mafia Redux Phobia.
43
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Posted - 2013.07.10 21:59:00 -
[236] - Quote
Thank CCP, fonzie/rise and all the rest of the team for burying solo/small gang into the mud and taking a nice dump on it. |
Kordus Aelar
University of Caille Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.10 22:00:00 -
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Anna Karhunen wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Kordus Aelar wrote:If you are suggesting that my character is someone's alt, you are 100% wrong.
It's not what you state is the tip off, it's how you state it...complete with cultural nuances. Your posts make it obvious all your EVE characters are alts of WoW character. Just saying.
I guess.
Not sure where that comes from, especially since I haven't played WoW since TBC. And since this is my only character thus far.
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Anna Karhunen
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Posted - 2013.07.10 22:03:00 -
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No, it was not aimed to you, but to Ace, who posts about WoW. Her alt comment was so weird that I felt temptation to make that comment. |
Ace Uoweme
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Anna Karhunen wrote:No, it was not aimed to you, but to Ace, who posts about WoW. Her alt comment was so weird that I felt temptation to make that comment.
Not weird. If you were on the WoW forums with t-h-a-t many alts posting, you'll spot things like that out of habit. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Anna Karhunen
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Posted - 2013.07.10 22:19:00 -
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What makes it weird is how it has no bearing whatsoever on the topic or points presented. |
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