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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
437
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Posted - 2013.05.03 14:54:00 -
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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1963
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:14:00 -
[32] - Quote
aaShapras wrote:Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.
If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?
I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.
I mean if You want to get 10k more players.
I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck.
"Eve will always be a PVP game, as long as I'm around and have something to do with it" -Jon Lander, Executive Producer - Eve Online, from E-Uni Q&A w/ CCP Unifex & Seagull, April 2013
PS : MMORPG =/= PVE Game, MMORPG is MMORPG, there's no PVE specifically mentioned anywhere in that acronym nor any variants of the definition of the term itself whatsoever. "I'd rather have other players-áget shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave |
aaShapras
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:15:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:aaShapras wrote:Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.
If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?
I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.
I mean if You want to get 10k more players.
I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck. No PvE, so dont advertise as an MMORPG? Are you daft lad? The lack of themeparks makes it more of an RPG than any other game, because your character is being roleplayed by you, with stories by them, doing any and all actions apable by them. unlike most "MMORPGs" where the only RPG element is levelig up, EVE lets you choose your missions, and act in them however you want, do you want to help that miner? kill him? pretend he doesnt exist? all are options, thats what makes it an RPG, you make your quests, you choose your battles. and as far as MMO goes, i dont think any other games have more than 10,000 players not only online at once, but online on the same server, let alone eve's average of 30-40 thousand players.
I think You need read again you post. EVE doesn't allow you chose missions, if you will be in wrong time you will be dead from player. So only player allow you to chose missions :D Please don't talk about EVE NPC, here is only player changing everything now and is not depend on me actually :D. I didn't decide to be dead when I was approaching stargate to jump. And what zones level 0.0 or 0.9 it doesn't mean nothing. Because everywhere is PvP. :D
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Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
481
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:15:00 -
[34] - Quote
aaShapras wrote:Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.
If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?
I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.
I mean if You want to get 10k more players.
I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck.
1. EVE is a PvP game at it's core 2. EVE is not a space simulator. See Celestia or Space Engine if you want a space simulator 3. There are no high level/low level zones in EVE "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1718
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:20:00 -
[35] - Quote
aaShapras wrote:Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.
If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?
I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.
I mean if You want to get 10k more players.
I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck.
Omg this is the most masterful troll ever.
-pvp is unfair in a pvp game CHECK
-EVE will go so many more subs if... CHECK
-i just want to be left alone to do activities that make isk and thus affect everyone else but no one should be able to screw with me.. CHECK
- And finally the LHA Tarawa mandate ie if you want pvp in this one unfified world pvp game you should have to go to special places where other people consent to pvp with you in this non-consensual pvp game... CHECK and MATE
This guy can't be for real, he's too perfect
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aaShapras
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:20:00 -
[36] - Quote
Sarah Schneider wrote:aaShapras wrote:Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.
If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?
I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.
I mean if You want to get 10k more players.
I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck. "Eve will always be a PVP game, as long as I'm around and have something to do with it" - Jon Lander, Executive Producer - Eve Online, from E-Uni Q&A w/ CCP Unifex & Seagull, April 2013
Most of games have PVP. But also whey have space and for PvE. I really want that this game will grow for long time, but to do this is not enough 40k players if we compare work efficient and server care. Is many thing around developing and by work I can see that they are limitless to players ;-) |
Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
974
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:20:00 -
[37] - Quote
1. Create new character. 2. Outfit **** frigate and load up with n00b-ish stuff. 3. Jump into a well-known camped low-sec system. 4. Troll EVE forums with new character.
Yeah, haven't seen that one before. CCP has no sense of humour. |
Rhivre
TarNec
101
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:22:00 -
[38] - Quote
Quote: aaShapras Most of games have PVP. But also whey have space and for PvE. I really want that this game will grow for long time, but to do this is not enough 40k players if we compare work efficient and server care. Is many thing around developing and by work I can see that they are limitless to players ;-)
You have been told how to stay out of the areas you do not want to go into.
Set autopilot to be safe, do not ignore warnings on your screen, and do not AP between jumps.
To ignore those warnings, and to jump into lowsec is like going onto a pvp server in another game and saying "Why is this guy killing me" |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1963
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:22:00 -
[39] - Quote
aaShapras wrote: I didn't decide to be dead when I was approaching stargate to jump. And what zones level 0.0 or 0.9 it doesn't mean nothing. Because everywhere is PvP. :D
Exactly.
Eve is a PVP themed MMORPG, while it doesn't force you to directly participate in ship-to-ship combat. The environment in itself were designed based on conflict and interaction between players in whatever manner they want.
To respond to your first post, do you even know that Eve is one of the healthiest MMO ever on gaming history, subscription & player retention-wise? this/the current game model works, that's from the business perspective. As to your comments about Eve or PVP in general is not your cup of tea, well then maybe this is not the game for you (the game developers have said exactly the same thing publicly, so, there you go).
"I'd rather have other players-áget shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave |
aaShapras
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:23:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:aaShapras wrote:Now I understand why just only 40k player is playing this game. Like my situation. I just traveling from zones 0.8 to next 0.8 with small frigate. It left about 2 jumps. But i appear in station without ship and cargo in station where was my clone. To be honest guys, I don't like PvP. If here no space for PvE, so just don't advertise that this game MMORPG.
If I want PvP, so as I understand is low level zones, so why in high level zones player increasing crime reputation and kills rating?
I think one thing is missing in this. And I think You should add this future. If you in high level zones living or starting to play game, at least give notification are you want to fight. For me its takes ages to grind money and I like PvE. Wiast time when get lost everyting is no point. Second is not fear and also is cheating when some is increasing reputation in high level zones. Give for people to get chance by stuff to go for PvP. Because at the moment I don't any chance to grind stuff in this game. I mean I like play solo and I like missions.
I mean if You want to get 10k more players.
I like this game because is a nice space simulator, but please can make some space for PvE players. I will back next year to check to you work guys. Good Luck. Omg this is the most masterful troll ever. -pvp is unfair in a pvp game CHECK -EVE will go so many more subs if... CHECK -i just want to be left alone to do activities that make isk and thus affect everyone else but no one should be able to screw with me.. CHECK - And finally the LHA Tarawa mandate ie if you want pvp in this one unfified world pvp game you should have to go to special places where other people consent to pvp with you in this non-consensual pvp game... CHECK and MATE This guy can't be for real, he's too perfect
When You say troll what you mean? |
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LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
608
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:25:00 -
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Yes, EVE can be played as a PVE game, "mostly" avoiding PvP.
CCP, wanting to have a game that appeals to many play styles, has created game mechanics that allow you to mostly avoid having your ship go boom, as long as you do not mess up.
My guess is, you may have messed up somehow.
If not, than you may have been suicide ganked, which would be VERY rare for a new player in a small frig transporting a cheap cargo.
You are never 100% "safe" from PvP when in a ship in space, however, you can get pretty darn close to it. |
aaShapras
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:27:00 -
[42] - Quote
Sarah Schneider wrote:aaShapras wrote: I didn't decide to be dead when I was approaching stargate to jump. And what zones level 0.0 or 0.9 it doesn't mean nothing. Because everywhere is PvP. :D
Exactly. Eve is a PVP themed MMORPG, while it doesn't force you to directly participate in ship-to-ship combat. The environment in itself were designed based on conflict and interaction between players in whatever manner they want. To respond to your first post, do you even know that Eve is one of the healthiest MMO ever on gaming history, subscription & player retention-wise? this/the current game model works, that's from the business perspective. As to your comments about Eve or PVP in general is not your cup of tea, well then maybe this is not the game for you (the game developers have said exactly the same thing publicly, so, there you go).
I don't think so. by work every year and staff member I don't see ;-). If it will be healthiest so we will see huge difference every year ;-). When I read every expansion (for me is just patch) so is small improvements. |
aaShapras
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:28:00 -
[43] - Quote
LHA Tarawa wrote:Yes, EVE can be played as a PVE game, "mostly" avoiding PvP.
CCP, wanting to have a game that appeals to many play styles, has created game mechanics that allow you to mostly avoid having your ship go boom, as long as you do not mess up.
My guess is, you may have messed up somehow.
If not, than you may have been suicide ganked, which would be VERY rare for a new player in a small frig transporting a cheap cargo.
You are never 100% "safe" from PvP when in a ship in space, however, you can get pretty darn close to it.
I think you missed one word. PVP players style. |
Rhivre
TarNec
101
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:29:00 -
[44] - Quote
aaShapras wrote:
I don't think so. by work every year and staff member I don't see ;-). If it will be healthiest so we will see huge difference every year ;-). When I read every expansion (for me is just patch) so is small improvements.
Pretty picture for you with graphs and stuff |
Zimmy Zeta
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
17404
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:30:00 -
[45] - Quote
Sarah Schneider wrote: "Eve will always be a PVP game, as long as I'm around and have something to do with it" -Jon Lander, Executive Producer - Eve Online, from E-Uni Q&A w/ CCP Unifex & Seagull, April 2013
I find this quote disturbing. So, should Jon Lander ever leave CCP, it will become a PvE game?
Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1963
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:31:00 -
[46] - Quote
aaShapras wrote:Most of games have PVP. But also whey have space and for PvE. I really want that this game will grow for long time, but to do this is not enough 40k players if we compare work efficient and server care. Is many thing around developing and by work I can see that they are limitless to players ;-) Eve has over 500k active subscriber. That 40k? that's well over most other MMOs out there. Even Moon Guard and Kil'Jaeden realms in WoW US (two of the most active/populated realm in WoW) are well below Eve's average activity. "I'd rather have other players-áget shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1963
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:33:00 -
[47] - Quote
aaShapras wrote:Sarah Schneider wrote:aaShapras wrote: I didn't decide to be dead when I was approaching stargate to jump. And what zones level 0.0 or 0.9 it doesn't mean nothing. Because everywhere is PvP. :D
Exactly. Eve is a PVP themed MMORPG, while it doesn't force you to directly participate in ship-to-ship combat. The environment in itself were designed based on conflict and interaction between players in whatever manner they want. To respond to your first post, do you even know that Eve is one of the healthiest MMO ever on gaming history, subscription & player retention-wise? this/the current game model works, that's from the business perspective. As to your comments about Eve or PVP in general is not your cup of tea, well then maybe this is not the game for you (the game developers have said exactly the same thing publicly, so, there you go). I don't think so. by work every year and staff member I don't see ;-). If it will be healthiest so we will see huge difference every year ;-). When I read every expansion (for me is just patch) so is small improvements. Name one other MMO that's older than 3 years old and does not have declining subscription number and player activity besides Eve. "I'd rather have other players-áget shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave |
aaShapras
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:38:00 -
[48] - Quote
Rhivre wrote:aaShapras wrote:
I don't think so. by work every year and staff member I don't see ;-). If it will be healthiest so we will see huge difference every year ;-). When I read every expansion (for me is just patch) so is small improvements.
Pretty picture for you with graphs and stuff
But this number is until 1 mill subscribers ;-). looking foward
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aaShapras
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:40:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:aaShapras wrote:Most of games have PVP. But also whey have space and for PvE. I really want that this game will grow for long time, but to do this is not enough 40k players if we compare work efficient and server care. Is many thing around developing and by work I can see that they are limitless to players ;-) Eve has over 500k active subscriber. That 40k? that's well over most other MMOs out there. Even Moon Guard and Kil'Jaeden realms in WoW US (two of the most active/populated realm in WoW) are well below Eve's average activity.
I believe. EVE engine allow to have more than 40k in one server than other MMO game. Because is space ;-). |
WTFAMILOOKINGAT
Horizon Research Group
38
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:43:00 -
[50] - Quote
aaShapras wrote:Rhivre wrote:aaShapras wrote:
I don't think so. by work every year and staff member I don't see ;-). If it will be healthiest so we will see huge difference every year ;-). When I read every expansion (for me is just patch) so is small improvements.
Pretty picture for you with graphs and stuff But this number is until 1 mill subscribers ;-). looking foward
hey idiot you jumped into a 0.4 (pvp zone) and died. what's the problem here? |
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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1374
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:43:00 -
[51] - Quote
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Name one other MMO that's older than 3 years old and does not have declining subscription number and player activity besides Eve. Just one, I dare you.
PS: and don't mention Second Life, ever, just no. Holyshit.
Dungeons and Dragons Online. A bit cheating since it went F2P but still, you already disallowed SL which kindof negates the whole Eve is the ONLY one.
Quote: Eve has over 500k active subscriber. That 40k? that's well over most other MMOs out there. Even Moon Guard and Kil'Jaeden realms in WoW US (two of the most active/populated realm in WoW) are well below Eve's average activity.
WoW servers are capped, not really a good comparison.
[url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=206023&find=unread[/url] |
Membaris Grim
Crypto-Fascist Syndicate Self Sabatoge
6
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:44:00 -
[52] - Quote
I feel like I'm being trolled or maybe just to much ganja today? |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1718
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:45:00 -
[53] - Quote
Membaris Grim wrote:I feel like I'm being trolled or maybe just to much ganja today?
C. All the Above
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Rhivre
TarNec
102
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:46:00 -
[54] - Quote
aaShapras wrote:Rhivre wrote:aaShapras wrote:
I don't think so. by work every year and staff member I don't see ;-). If it will be healthiest so we will see huge difference every year ;-). When I read every expansion (for me is just patch) so is small improvements.
Pretty picture for you with graphs and stuff But this number is until 1 mill subscribers ;-). looking foward
Oh, you want that one too?
1m and over
That leaves you SWTOR (F2P), Runescape, and WoW.
Very few games have over 1m subscribers. Your claim is that Eve "only has 40k subscribers" (Not true, 40k people logged in at any given time != 40k subscribers), and that it is not growing.
At FF they said they would like to hit 100k concurrent users soonGäó while that may be a while off, I expect 60 or 70k concurrent users is not too far off. Currently it is showing 37k or so, and its not peak time Euro yet.
As you like pretty graphs, here is the server thingy since 2006 or so Server activity
With Odyssey only 1 month away, and the 10th anniversary coming up in a few days, and the launch of DUST, I think rumours of Eves demise may be a little premature ^^ |
WTFAMILOOKINGAT
Horizon Research Group
38
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:47:00 -
[55] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Membaris Grim wrote:I feel like I'm being trolled or maybe just to much ganja today? C. All the Above
incorrect, no such thing as too much :) |
aaShapras
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:47:00 -
[56] - Quote
WTFAMILOOKINGAT wrote:aaShapras wrote:Rhivre wrote:aaShapras wrote:
I don't think so. by work every year and staff member I don't see ;-). If it will be healthiest so we will see huge difference every year ;-). When I read every expansion (for me is just patch) so is small improvements.
Pretty picture for you with graphs and stuff But this number is until 1 mill subscribers ;-). looking foward hey idiot you jumped into a 0.4 (pvp zone) and died. what's the problem here? ]
I know what mean zones. I was in 0.8 not zero 0.4 :-) |
Freya Kaundur
Paradigm Shift.
11
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:48:00 -
[57] - Quote
0/10 bad troll cant even do fake typos well. |
Rhivre
TarNec
102
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:49:00 -
[58] - Quote
aaShapras wrote: hey idiot you jumped into a 0.4 (pvp zone) and died. what's the problem here?
]
I know what mean zones. I was in 0.8 not zero 0.4 :-)[/quote]
Try again, you were in 0.4.
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Ishaki
Caldari Prime Investments
1
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:50:00 -
[59] - Quote
without pvp there would be no need to buy ships and mods, and most players would just leave out of boredom if they didn't leave already when pvp was disabled.
also, popups are not there to be ignored, read them. not that you lost much but consider it an inexpensive lesson learned. |
Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1964
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:51:00 -
[60] - Quote
aaShapras wrote:Sarah Schneider wrote:aaShapras wrote:Most of games have PVP. But also whey have space and for PvE. I really want that this game will grow for long time, but to do this is not enough 40k players if we compare work efficient and server care. Is many thing around developing and by work I can see that they are limitless to players ;-) Eve has over 500k active subscriber. That 40k? that's well over most other MMOs out there. Even Moon Guard and Kil'Jaeden realms in WoW US (two of the most active/populated realm in WoW) are well below Eve's average activity. I believe. EVE engine allow to have more than 40k in one server than other MMO game. Because is space ;-). You're missing the point. I'm pretty sure Blizzard as one of the biggest and richest game developer out there can afford to invest in servers that could hold any number of players on a single realm if needed.
It's not about technical capabilities, it's about how the game environment works and how CCP has managed to lift themselves up from a small garage team of programmers to one of the most successfull game company with a product so unique (note this part), no one in the past decade ever managed to try the same concept and came close to what CCP has accomplished. Yes, people have tried sandbox MMOs before, single sharded concept before and space-themed MMOs before. Not a single one of them succeeded in the manner of what Eve Online is currently at. "I'd rather have other players-áget shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave |
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