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Amelia O
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.04 09:04:00 -
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Is the sleipnir much slower to make missions with than the maelstrom ? I'm still training large projectiles to V and it will take a while , so I'm thinking of buying a sleipnir and flying with it for now.
what do you think ?
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Col Arran
Generic Incursion Tax Evasion
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Posted - 2013.05.04 11:57:00 -
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I think you should EFT it up for yourself |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.05.04 12:07:00 -
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Last I looked into it, the Sleipnir had some (read:lots of) range issues in L4 missions. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno Malefic Motives
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Posted - 2013.05.04 13:47:00 -
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As mentioned due to range issues, a t1 gun mael will still outperform a Sleipnir, however the lack of Barrage hurts, so it may be quite close since you can't use t2 guns, as said, EFT it up and see the applied damage at range. |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:42:00 -
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arty sleip?
why not?
It's fitted like a beefed up cane but obviously shield boosted instead of passive tanked. |
Amelia O
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.04 14:51:00 -
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Well , thanks for the answers. I tried EFTING both and sleipnir looked ok , but one thing I overlooked was the range.(I dont know much about lvl 4 missions) I'll try more fits for both. maybe artie sleipnir would be nice. |
Dyphorus
VC Academy
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Posted - 2013.05.04 15:09:00 -
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There's not really much reason to train T2 weapons for Mael. Only real advantage is T2 Ammo which is situational at best. Aside from that, fittings on T2 1400s are tough to work wil. I fly a Mael with Meta 4 1400s in higher end 0.0 Sansha anoms with little effort.
Try something along the lines of this. Will take reasonable fitting skills and is very close on CPU. Fitting T2 1400s would take some major compromises.
Can be adjusted for damage specific resists and/or a MJD if that fits your tactics better.
[Maelstrom, New Setup 1] Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Gist B-Type Shield Boost Amplifier EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II EM Ward Field II 100MN Afterburner II
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L 1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I
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Marc Callan
Interstellar Steel Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:43:00 -
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T2 autocannons on a Mael can be nice, because of the access to Barrage (if you've got a largely short-range mission that also throws some long-range boats at you, or you want to open range and snipe frigates before chainsawing the heavier rats). For artillery, on the other hand, M4 guns will pack a good wallop at any range (the +1 falloff for short-range ammo is beyond the Mael's targeting range). There's not much call for Quake or Tremor.
In fact, the only shortcoming I can see is that there's no short-range, high-damage projectile round with a good kinetic punch. "Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred..." - Niccolo Machiavelli-á |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.05.05 04:35:00 -
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Arti Sleipnir is good fun:
[Sleipnir, mishin arties cheap] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II 10MN Afterburner II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M [empty high slot]
Medium Projectile Locus Coordinator II Medium Projectile Locus Coordinator II
AC Sleip posts ridiculous damage numbers but has range issues:
[Sleipnir, mishin] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Domination X-Large Shield Booster EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Small Tractor Beam II
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I
Or you can fit with MWD instead and better mitigate those issues. Or even dual prop the damn thing.
Mael is probably equal or better than all but the arti fit. But the Sleipnir is way more fun to fly. |
hmskrecik
TransMine Group German Information Network Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.05 09:44:00 -
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Dyphorus wrote:There's not really much reason to train T2 weapons[....] It depends how *much* you value unstacked +8% or +10% to damage. |
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