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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:05:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:I saw what you did there. If you want to call out the Derp Atron, then call it out. If you do, we're gonna de-blue you, your corporation, and your hello kitty alliance too!
lol! I put it out there, realized it was kind of a worn out joke, and deleted the post :) |
Wolfsdragoon
Rainbow Dash Goes Red Rainbow Dash Friends
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:05:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:[quote=Bad Messenger]
Put it like this; when outsiders come to roam Blackrise and Placid, they don't sit there and say, "Hey, let's visit XYZ system because we know the Caldari are going to bring it." But they know to visit and hang around certain Gallente HQ systems because of the possibility of competition.
I cannot express how badly I wish there was a strong centralized cal mil location we could roam to and get fights.
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Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.05.09 20:00:00 -
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Wolfsdragoon wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:[quote=Bad Messenger]
Put it like this; when outsiders come to roam Blackrise and Placid, they don't sit there and say, "Hey, let's visit XYZ system because we know the Caldari are going to bring it." But they know to visit and hang around certain Gallente HQ systems because of the possibility of competition.
I cannot express how badly I wish there was a strong centralized cal mil location we could roam to and get fights.
A little birdy told me cal mil in Hykanima is looking for fights. |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
521
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Posted - 2013.05.09 21:17:00 -
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Combatevolved wrote:Wolfsdragoon wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:[quote=Bad Messenger]
Put it like this; when outsiders come to roam Blackrise and Placid, they don't sit there and say, "Hey, let's visit XYZ system because we know the Caldari are going to bring it." But they know to visit and hang around certain Gallente HQ systems because of the possibility of competition.
I cannot express how badly I wish there was a strong centralized cal mil location we could roam to and get fights. A little birdy told me cal mil in Hykanima is looking for fights.
Too far to go just to be fighting frigs and destroyers
High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.05.09 22:40:00 -
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Quote:Too far to go just to be fighting frigs and destroyers
What will you come for, cruisers?
Titans? |
Wolfsdragoon
Rainbow Dash Goes Red Rainbow Dash Friends
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:46:00 -
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SamuelofR247 > sorry bro, you're not on my target list tonight
Then he blocked me, yeah man cal mil is definitely looking for fights.
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Shadow Adanza
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:05:00 -
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Wolfsdragoon wrote:
Then he blocked me, yeah man cal mil is definitely looking for fights.
Curious as to who was on his target list.
Maybe it was empty and no one was on it. Hey! You're no zombie! |
Super Chair
Amarrian Vengeance
505
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:27:00 -
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Wolfsdragoon wrote:SamuelofR247 > sorry bro, you're not on my target list tonight
Then he blocked me, yeah man cal mil is definitely looking for fights.
Nenna is only a mere 3 jumps rakapas Project Cerberus is recruiting for the US Timezone, click here |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:41:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Too far to go just to be fighting frigs and destroyers
Cruisers? Meet 1/2 way?
Some of your Galls do come to Hyk occasionally and it's usually good fights.
We derped a fair few cruisers to kill one of your Pilgrims a few weeks ago. Was worth it.
And those bait tank Vexors are annoying.
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Wolfsdragoon
Rainbow Dash Goes Red Rainbow Dash Friends
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:45:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:Wolfsdragoon wrote:SamuelofR247 > sorry bro, you're not on my target list tonight
Then he blocked me, yeah man cal mil is definitely looking for fights.
Nenna is only a mere 3 jumps rakapas
They were already formed up for caldari, and despite not being in an optimal fleet for fighting us they still came and tried. |
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:32:00 -
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Wolfsdragoon wrote:They were already formed up for caldari, and despite not being in an optimal fleet for fighting us they still came and tried. You seem to miss the point though, being that there is no real place to go and fight cal mil. There's no place near you.... Hykanima, Loes, Heydieles (Russians). |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
521
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:54:00 -
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Wolfsdragoon wrote:Super Chair wrote:Wolfsdragoon wrote:SamuelofR247 > sorry bro, you're not on my target list tonight
Then he blocked me, yeah man cal mil is definitely looking for fights.
Nenna is only a mere 3 jumps rakapas They were already formed up for caldari, and despite not being in an optimal fleet for fighting us they still came and tried. You seem to miss the point though, being that there is no real place to go and fight cal mil.
Yo dawg! I heard your 10 man gang ran into a 10 man Cal Mil gang in Enaluri last night. They wouldn't fight you but a 5 man QCat caracal gang decided to fight you instead
High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:06:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Wolfsdragoon wrote:Super Chair wrote:Wolfsdragoon wrote:SamuelofR247 > sorry bro, you're not on my target list tonight
Then he blocked me, yeah man cal mil is definitely looking for fights.
Nenna is only a mere 3 jumps rakapas They were already formed up for caldari, and despite not being in an optimal fleet for fighting us they still came and tried. You seem to miss the point though, being that there is no real place to go and fight cal mil. Yo dawg! I heard your 10 man gang ran into a 10 man Cal Mil gang in Enaluri last night. They wouldn't fight you but a 5 man QCat caracal gang decided to fight you instead
That isn't accurate. Caldari had about 15-20. If it was just 10, we would have fought them. Also, we had 6 guys not 5. I also wouldn't say we fought Rainbow Dash, it was more like we shot at them while they laughed. Your facts are just so horribly wrong Deen. :P . |
Wolfsdragoon
Rainbow Dash Goes Red Rainbow Dash Friends
26
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:55:00 -
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Well to be clear as well I'm not patting RDF on the back for being such special brave snowflakes, but it's disappointing to see cal mil so rarely.
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Rob Lorence
Dedicated Individuals Conditioned to Kill B O R G
11
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:29:00 -
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So far were mostly fighting "neutrals" around Loes and the only plexers are stabbed ships (or stabbed alts of DnD alliance members with their mains hanging about )
Its funny how the "neutrals" usually side with the stronger faction in each warzone.. I saw this while i was in the amarr mil and now seeing the same in the caldari mil
But since there are so many well established corps/alliances in the gal militia, why won't 1 of you switch over? You will still have the same quality members and you can fight against the other gal mil with BS or capitals or whatever the hell you want. Also if your that good i'm sure you will be able to find ppl in the cal militia that will gladly join an organized corp/alliance
Question is are you really looking for good fights and a challenge or is it too comfortable to have it easy..
p.s not saying everyone should move over and then turn the tide.. Just enough to keep it interesting
And lastly on a side note, why is the gal/mil warzone so big? Kinda feels there are too many systems and not enough ppl to actually occupy them (amarr/min have much less) |
Shadow Adanza
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:56:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Wolfsdragoon wrote:Super Chair wrote:Wolfsdragoon wrote:SamuelofR247 > sorry bro, you're not on my target list tonight
Then he blocked me, yeah man cal mil is definitely looking for fights.
Nenna is only a mere 3 jumps rakapas They were already formed up for caldari, and despite not being in an optimal fleet for fighting us they still came and tried. You seem to miss the point though, being that there is no real place to go and fight cal mil. Yo dawg! I heard your 10 man gang ran into a 10 man Cal Mil gang in Enaluri last night. They wouldn't fight you but a 5 man QCat caracal gang decided to fight you instead Well, to be fair: QCats will engage just about anything. And we did have a 6th Caracal. :P Hey! You're no zombie! |
Shadow Adanza
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.05.10 19:07:00 -
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Rob Lorence wrote: But since there are so many well established corps/alliances in the gal militia, why won't 1 of you switch over? You will still have the same quality members and you can fight against the other gal mil with BS or capitals or whatever the hell you want. Also if your that good i'm sure you will be able to find ppl in the cal militia that will gladly join an organized corp/alliance
Question is are you really looking for good fights and a challenge or is it too comfortable to have it easy..
p.s not saying everyone should move over and then turn the tide.. Just enough to keep it interesting
And lastly on a side note, why is the gal/mil warzone so big? Kinda feels there are too many systems and not enough ppl to actually occupy them (amarr/min have much less)
Uh... because nobody wants to deal with the Caldari drama llama? If Caldari would chill with all their in house squabbling, they won't need a Gallente corp to swap over. They're pretty strong in their own right when they're not fussing at each other. Instead of asking for a Gallente corp to swap over, why not step up and work together with the rest of the Caldari militia? Maybe move a couple alliances to one "home system" and live there for a couple months building trust amongst each other and learning to work with each other instead of staking out and each trying to do their own thing.
Hey! You're no zombie! |
Rob Lorence
Dedicated Individuals Conditioned to Kill B O R G
11
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Posted - 2013.05.10 20:54:00 -
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Quote:Uh... because nobody wants to deal with the Caldari drama llama? If Caldari would chill with all their in house squabbling, they won't need a Gallente corp to swap over. They're pretty strong in their own right when they're not fussing at each other. Instead of asking for a Gallente corp to swap over, why not step up and work together with the rest of the Caldari militia? Maybe move a couple alliances to one "home system" and live there for a couple months building trust amongst each other and learning to work with each other instead of staking out and each trying to do their own thing.
No idea what drama llama your talking about.. Then again this isn't null so who cares about politics? This is just about the pew, not fighting over tech moons here (hell you guys aren't even taking out vulnerable systems)
Who knows.. Maybe you guys will indeed get the "good fights" your hoping for in a couple of months, whats for sure ppl in your militia are just gonna keep moaning about it without actually doing anything about it. From some carrier kill: " Arth Lawing GÇó 9 hours ago
Constant bumping got the kill, so props to the galmil who kept trying all the way. HORN's dedication to trying to keep it safe did themselves proud, proving they're still ready to bring it. One of the real gf's in a while so props all round. If only the Caldari were able to come anywhere near the ability of HORN then the FW warzone would be a much more interesting place." |
Major Killz
189
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Posted - 2013.05.11 15:34:00 -
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Rob Lorence wrote:So far were mostly fighting "neutrals" around Loes and the only plexers are stabbed ships (or stabbed alts of DnD alliance members with their mains hanging about )
Its funny how the "neutrals" usually side with the stronger faction in each warzone.. I saw this while i was in the amarr mil and now seeing the same in the caldari mil
But since there are so many well established corps/alliances in the gal militia, why won't 1 of you switch over? You will still have the same quality members and you can fight against the other gal mil with BS or capitals or whatever the hell you want. Also if your that good i'm sure you will be able to find ppl in the cal militia that will gladly join an organized corp/alliance
Question is are you really looking for good fights and a challenge or is it too comfortable to have it easy..
p.s not saying everyone should move over and then turn the tide.. Just enough to keep it interesting
And lastly on a side note, why is the gal/mil warzone so big? Kinda feels there are too many systems and not enough ppl to actually occupy them (amarr/min have much less)
From what I've seen. Most Gallente corporations and pilots are not THAT good. The Caldari are just THAT bad and how you judge performance is a relative measure. For example: when Chaotic Tranquillity and I were in factional warfare I could count our competent pilots on one hand and 3 fingers and our really good pilots on 2 fingers. As for our fleet commanders. I'll leave that up to whom ever has engaged those commanders. However we had 4 total and 2 active.
How do I make that comparative determination? I compared the our pilots to the best pilots we had = )
As far as why Caldari don't attract more competent entities from the Amarr, Gallente or Minmatar side or anywhere. Pilots and entities tend to gravitate to the "good" or winning side and become "good" VICARIOUSLY. STANDINGS IS A BIG ISSUE TOO. However, the vast majority of entities in game who engage in combat are made up of "grunts" or a more appropriate euphemism would be "F1 monkey's" = ) There are only 2 hand full of entities like a Genos Occidere. Entities where all their pilots are capable of leading engagements and fly solo and are required to fly solo to join. Every other corporation and alliance I have seen and been in are made up of mostly grunts or "F1 monkey's". Not that it's a bad thing. Numbers and scale are important when achieving serious goals.
With that said. Looking back @ when Chaotic Tranquillity and I were in factional warfare. The leaders in our corporation wanted to join the Gallente side because the Caldari side was considered "bad". So, I made the argument to join the Caldari side for that reason. The prospective I gained was amusing. One of them being something I should have already known. Simply put. Alot of the pilots were just not "good". I found engaging easy. At-least when I was solo and in fleets with our MOST competent pilots.
Infact when I was leading we didn't lose much and even when we did lose; we did ALOT of damage at significant disadvantage. Mind you I lead from the front and by example. By that I mean I scouted and was the first one to start an engagement and last to leave (last to leave most of the time). Meaning I was in more danger than anyone else. Which is not the smartest way to lead a fleet (works better when everyone in your fleet is good and can lead once you go down though).
Anyway. I was not on most of the time and I didn't lead fleets all the time. So, I did see alot of head bashing outcomes when I was not around, after the fact. Based on those engagements against our worse pilots. Those considered "good" Gallente militia pilots and corporations were doing OK at best (1 to 1 losses with more numbers and wining) and at worse losing engagements (in funny ways). To me, I consider that bad because I considered Chaotic Tranquillity bad @ that time. How can you be good if you're losing to bad so much and with more or even numbers?
The only Gallente militia entities I took seriously at that time that I can remember were; SOTF, PLAYBOYS, QCATS, DARK RISING. That's a small list and the list of GREAT pilots is even smaller. I found that many on the Gallente "top killer" list to be easy to engage solo.
role play on***One day though... One day there will be a Caldari Jesus to delivery the militia from obscurity to GREATNESS and on that day I will be weeping tears of JOY. *** role play off.
TLDR: Gallente have too many corporations and pilots who consider themselves good VICARIOUSLY. Caldari are bad and have only 2 or less entities able to attract those who like to orbit around stars and those who are stars like to be around other stars (lol dumb analogy). Most Gallente corporations are bad and if they joined the Caldari side they would figure it out quickly. So why join losers when you could be a winner by association. Also standings is a BIG reason why too.
- killz |
Rob Lorence
Dedicated Individuals Conditioned to Kill B O R G
11
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Posted - 2013.05.11 17:49:00 -
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I've never been this active on the eve forums but i can't help myself from commenting..
Other than patting yourself on the back for being oh so awesome when you and yours were in FW. All that long post had a single point (relevant to the thread) which is Quote:Most Gallente corporations are bad and if they joined the Caldari side they would figure it out quickly. So why join losers when you could be a winner by association.
And if you think FW can be "won" by a corp with only the 10 best pilots in game (keeping it a small number so you can still count with your fingers ) then your wrong. Its about having a lot of ppl who press F1 and a well structured group of corps/alliances working together as the gallente did not too long ago.
So ya caldari are bad or not organized or whatever (i'm still enjoying it).. I'm just saying if some ppl in the gallente find it so annoying and complain about it all the time, do something about it so you can get your "good fights" |
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Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
522
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Posted - 2013.05.11 18:53:00 -
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Rob Lorence wrote:
So ya caldari are bad or not organized or whatever (i'm still enjoying it).. I'm just saying if some ppl in the gallente find it so annoying and complain about it all the time, do something about it so you can get your "good fights"
He just said standings was a huge huge for people not switching over. Amongst many other factors. What part of this do you not understand?
High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
Rob Lorence
Dedicated Individuals Conditioned to Kill B O R G
11
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Posted - 2013.05.11 19:24:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Rob Lorence wrote:
So ya caldari are bad or not organized or whatever (i'm still enjoying it).. I'm just saying if some ppl in the gallente find it so annoying and complain about it all the time, do something about it so you can get your "good fights"
He just said standings was a huge huge for people not switching over. Amongst many other factors. What part of this do you not understand?
What i don't understand is why you insist on making up excuses.. No one said the only solution is to move to the caldari mil (hint - see your own quote)
Quote:Now what I'd really like to see is the US TZ Amarr organizations go up against the US TZ Gallente organizations. Best of the best. Death match. Winner takes all!
Stop complaining about what other ppl do or don't do in order to increase your amusement and give you a challenge .
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Major Killz
190
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Posted - 2013.05.11 21:40:00 -
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Takes awhile and alot get to threw to people. You say to little and they stay in their ignorance. You say to much and are too honest in your opinions and you're seen as confident and there by arrogant. Say too little and they miss the point entirely. Then you have a special group who some would call "sick kids" with "special needs".
Unlike some I don't do self aggrandizement (at-least not seriously unless I want to annoy some terribubble) and I'm fairly self depreciating.
I respect those who are superior to myself and will say as much and have on this forum. However, I do so with intent to surpass them and that respect may not be towards the individual, just their skill.
Some would say I've insulted my own corporation and it's members/friends. I'm often viewed as a Caldari traitor and a Gallente sympathizer instead of a realist who acknowledges ability, inabilities and realities.
Also you can "WIN" in factional warfare. Many battles and wars are won and lost in fact. As far as what you believe to be a "well structured" group of corporations and alliances in the Gallente militia. You'll find that in 0.0 (null) and not anything that structured in factional warfare. I've been in corporations like "Shadows of the federation" and many other "ELITE" alliances and corporation in factional warfare, low and 0.0. There was organization as far as combat. Otherwise most Factional warfare leadership can be and are often AFK. There's no need for a strong management structure or even FLEET DOCTRINE. I've already referred to that reality in a previous post.
- killz |
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Villore Accords
29
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:22:00 -
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Combatevolved wrote:Chatgris is right.
Get to innia. Templis Dragonaors are taking Eha.
Does going to Innia still an option or where did you all move now Blasters for life
https://neverpheedthetroll.blogspot.com |
Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
12
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Posted - 2013.05.12 04:36:00 -
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Phox Jorkarzul wrote:Combatevolved wrote:Chatgris is right.
Get to innia. Templis Dragonaors are taking Eha. Does going to Innia still an option or where did you all move now
We will be back in Innia within a day.
I think everyone in new eden knows where we are now stationed. |
Scylus Black
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
16
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Posted - 2013.05.15 00:46:00 -
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Templis Dragonaors certainly is not failscading. Chatgris thanks for pointing that out.
The issue with CalMil are not the pilots. It's the leadership. You don't have to have been an NFL player to be an NFL coach. However you do need the right pilot for the team. My corporation (CCDM) is not a fit for every pilot and our Alliance, Templis Dragonaors, is not a fit for every Corporation.
We are in it for the long haul. Did it suck getting pushed out of Innia? You bet and a heck of a lot of fun too. Our pilots developed a lot and had great fights. We are looking for many more. So you may not want to come fight us in our tricked out frigs and dessys with racing stripes. We'll come to you . We look forward to partnering with other Alliances in CalMil who share similar goals. Which for us is simple. Check your ego at the door and remember why you are here. We play to win. Win as a team, lose as a... You get the idea.
What I do know:
The state of CalMil didn't get this way over night and won't get better over night.
Also Geographical Cures don't work. You just end up bringing the problem with you.
Best,
Scylus Scylus Black - CEO / Executor Templis Dragonaors Alliance Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry http://www.caldaridefense.com/ CCDM Is recruiting UK/EU Pilots!
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
373
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Posted - 2013.05.15 01:51:00 -
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There isn't really much drama in CalMil.
Occasionally people don't agree and a few people do get overly invested in eve but that happens on all sides.
Drama only effects those who let it.
As far as leadership in Caldari. That's a very complex issue. There are a few different types of people all with good ideas but very different attitudes.
There are the type who are 'It gets in the dplex or else it gets the hose again' type of people.
There are the 'Fuuuu 4 min left on this - screw the LP - im bored whats next door - oh 3 more private chat windows poped up (dock and chat for an hour) ' -Admittedly I'm this one. Eve is as much about being social as shooting spaceships for me.
Then you have the 'I just joined FW - I'm gonna come in and show you how FW should be played - oh fuuu you guys are not listening or doing what I want - please play eve my way for a few weeks.'
Just my observations. Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Juan Rayo
Justified Chaos
92
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Posted - 2013.05.15 02:32:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote: There are the 'Fuuuu 4 min left on this - screw the LP - im bored whats next door - oh 3 more private chat windows poped up (dock and chat for an hour) ' -Admittedly I'm this one. Eve is as much about being social as shooting spaceships for me. .
And so I now know how to take you out of a fight :)
I-¦m the same pretty much. |
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