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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:05:00 -
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Verified reports state that at approximately 19:45 CONCORD time on 05.07.YC115, 14-17 (reports vary) Republic Fleet Naglfars jumped into the Federation sovereign territory of Colelie above the rings of the sixth planet, a gas giant. They were met by a roughly equal force of Federation Navy Moros, to the count of 15-18.
Federation Navy commander Stolle Colalle demanded the Minmatar forces withdraw back to Republic space, while Republic commander Leralduin Olf rejected the ultimatum and demanded free passage through Federation space. Neither side was willing to stand down, resulting in the outbreak of hostilities.
From the outset, the tactical situation strongly favored the Federation fleet, with the Moros well within firing range and sporting a much higher raw damage output. After siege modules were activated, both fleets were locked in the brawl. The Republic fleet was destroyed to the last man, with 6 Moros remaining on field.
Non-lethal ECM intervention by the FCORD fleet proved impossible due to the EWAR immunity provided by siege modules. After a failed attempt to resolve the situation using energy neutralizers, FCORD fleet commander "Grideris" ordered open guns on specified Naglfars. Electus Matari and assorted Republic supporters were also on field openly engaging the Moros in defense of their kin. Various independent capsuleers engaged at will.
While the final death toll is still being tallied, the engagement resulted in a minor victory for the Federation with a heavy loss of life. It remains to be seen how the respective governments will treat the situation.
ADDENDUM:
Roughly ten to twenty minutes after the final Naglfar was destroyed, CONCORD DED Brigadier General Odo Korachi arrived on the scene, ordering all pilots to cease fire or risk a global criminal flag. It is assumed the order was directed at capsuleers, as the remaining Moros who had not yet succumbed were not firing on capsuleers. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Sub-Director of Public Relations |
Julianus Soter
Moira. Villore Accords
118
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:07:00 -
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Mentas Blaque and Thoun Gatarau.... How many souls have you slaughtered today? Now and in the future?
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Emile Belfleur
Solar Zouaves
61
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:24:00 -
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Exactly what did the Republic hope to achieve with this reprehensible attack? I have to wonder.
One thing is perfectly clear. All aid of any sort given by the Federation to the Republic, be it economic or material, needs to be stopped right now, if it hasn't been stopped already, until severe reparations are made.
We are arming these people. We have been arming them for a long time, far too long. It needs to stop, now. |
Sixx Vicious
Fallen Supremacy
0
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:24:00 -
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This was a sads sad day...
Soter, how about you do not point the fingers at Blaque or Gatarau. They did not launch an assault at us, they did not pull the republic fleets trigger when they chose to attack the Federation forces. The Republic forces given many chances to stand down, yet they persisted their attack. they claimed their orders came high up the chain of command.
Federation pushed back the assault, but this day should have never happened. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
359
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:29:00 -
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Just going to copypaste this here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=233306
Today at about 16:00 I and some other known loyalists received a request from the Republic Fleet to assist in an operation to forcibly extradite the shooter of Karin Midular from Federation care. The leader of the operation was given as General Aruko Aruman of the Republic Fleet; point of contact was Heder Elislar. I stated my opinion that I thought the operation was madness and that the Fleet should stand down, but under what for me counts as orders gathered a patrol force to support.
I was at no point given further intel about the exact plans of the Fleet. I went into Bei with the goal of coming out of this without having to engage and without betraying my oath to the Minmatar Republic. I failed in the first.
At about 20:00 local a Republic Fleet capital wing entered Colelie and demanded passage further. Federation Navy capital wing denied. Words were exchanged. Both in public and in private I and others from Electus Matari pleaded for the Republic Fleet to stand down, but this was in vain. When the Republic Fleet engaged, I was told by the officers in charge of the capitals that this was under orders "from the top".
Being an oath-bound warrior of the Republic I could personally see no other option than to follow the Fleet. I did not agree with the order and I agree with our current leadership even less, but to refuse simply because I found the order disagreeable would have gone against everything I have spoken for during my career in space.
I gave the order to the EM fleet to engage; the pilots with me should not be blamed.
We lost.
To whom it may concern: Electus Matari does not agree with this course of action. This is not the way to treat our allies. This is not the way to win the war with the real enemy. This is not the way to honor the legacy of the Ray. We followed our leaders now, but we warn you to remember that you can only lead free people to where they are willing to follow. The Matari people in space have always been divided into two: those who cherish war for the sake of honor and emotion, and those who rather avoid it for the sake of long-turn survival of our people. When the Ray was in charge, she managed to balance the two for a long time. The "Sanmatar" now needs to do the same.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Director, Gradient Diplomat, Electus Matari |
Julianus Soter
Moira. Villore Accords
118
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:32:00 -
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The problem is, there was a solution to this problem. Mentas Blaque simply placed the priority of his Black Eagles above that of an alliance that has lasted for decades. When you start placing your misguided paranoia above the needs of your friends, that is when you have gone disasterously wrong. |
Shintoko Akahoshi
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
40
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:39:00 -
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Soter, stop talking sense!
I'm not surprised by what happened today. Disappointed? Maybe. Surprised? No. Lately it seems like both the Republic and the Federation are all too willing to throw the other to the wolves for fairly trivial reasons.
The Federation-Republic alliance is decades old, as Soter says. All the same, history is littered with wars between former allies with at least as much history. Perhaps this alliance's time has simply come. Bio and writing |
Graelyn
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
441
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:42:00 -
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It's unfortunate that it took the Federation this long to to encounter a scenario that would show them the true face of Shakor's Republic.
The Caldari State is now the ONLY one of the Empires that has not been forcibly invaded by this government. Not this nation, but This Government.
I do not lightly make this statement given the closeness of recent tragedy, but the Republic led by Karin Midular would never have been this stupid, bloodthirsty, or reckless. The magnitude of her loss is made painfully evident not 24 hours after her passing; she was the only hope that any disciple of peace had for Amarr and Matari. It is apparent now that there is also little hope for peace between the Matari and anyone else.
CONCORD should take a long hard look at the members of it's charter. Then they should remember how many lives they lost to a sneak attack by a Shakorite Warfleet.
In a few short years, this government has boldly and blatantly attacked nearly every other CONCORD signatory entity, and CONCORD itself.
CONCORD should remove the Minmatar Republic as a member state of the Yulai Convention until this chaotic rouge regime can be ended. + Cardinal Graelyn + Owner/Operator, "The Summit" YR113 Amarr Loyalist of the Year
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BloodBird
Mixed Metaphor
175
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:52:00 -
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Julianus Soter wrote:Mentas Blaque and Thoun Gatarau.... How many souls have you slaughtered today? Now and in the future?
Disgusting, treasonous bastard, why don't you get off your high horse for a while and smell the crisp, burning flesh for a bit?
Tonight, the only ones smiling and laughing are the repugnant Angel and Sansha loyalists running around our space shooting our navies at will in the middle of a gigantic political incident with hundreds of thousands of lives as a price-tag.
Inability to see the other side of an argument lead to the utter obliteration of an alliance lasting for the better part of a century, if not more. Pointing fingers and complaining serves no purpose tonight. You personally called for "Freedom of Information" that the FIO share case-sensitive intel with the Capsuleer community - and soon after leaked specops intel right to the public like a complete moron. We may very well have you to thank for the undesirables showing up to abduct surviving crews right out of the breaking wrecks on the field.
You have no credibility anymore, and no authority that I feel any need to acknowledge. Shut the hell up, stop pointing fingers, and let the widows weep in peace.
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Sakura Nihil
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
208
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:53:00 -
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"Free passage" for a small dreadnought fleet... usually, regardless of whether that passage is granted or not, things tend to end badly.
I suggest both sides pull their heads out of their asses before the Amarrians get any ideas. 10 Thoraxes, 3 Minutes Star Fraction vs. Band of Brothers
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2731
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:53:00 -
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Immediate AAR SSTG Field Report: Broadcast: Sisters of Eve Bureau, Arnon.
On 5.7.YC115 an engagement between the Federation and Republic fleet ensued for reasons not yet fully UNDERSTOOD. While not equipped with any equipment for mitigating damage as a means of deescalation to the conflict, SSTG Ballistica was assigned to a rescue mission of picking up escaped crew from all sides of the conflict.
Sansha and Blood raider pirates and capsuleer sympathizers were also reported on the field kidnapping escaped crew. How many were kidnapped is not yet know, and there are no estimates.
13,504 escaped crew were rescued, 377 perished from injuries afterwards. During this rescue mission, SSTG Ballstica began to experience multiple electrical shorts due to blood seeping below the deck plates of the cargo hold. Firefighting efforts were also hindered from the halls being crowded with rescued crew and hence burning sections could not be vented to space as a firefighting method. An additional 157 rescued crew perished from smoke inhalation by the time of arrival at the Sisters of Eve Bureau in Arnon. The Sisters of Eve Bureau was the nearest station with the proper resources to take this many wounded at once.
All rescued crew are granted sanctuary in SSTG hangar facilities until such time that transport is arranged for their return to their homes. Republic crew are NOT to be taken as prisoners of war.
Federation crew members are released once they are fit to do so.
Federal security assets seeking to interrogate Republic crew will only be permitted to do so under a signed warrant.
A report for Sister Alitura will be sent to propose that, given the situation that developed on board SSTG Ballistica regarding the electrical shorts and resulting fires from blood seeping through deck plates, new ship designs for the purpose of evacuation of casualties, or some kind of equipment that can be used to modify existing hulls, are long overdue. It's asked that other capsule pilots involved in humanitarian missions of this nature or will be should also lend a message of support for this endeavor.
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Julianus Soter
Moira. Villore Accords
121
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:55:00 -
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Sakura Nihil wrote:"Free passage" for a small dreadnought fleet... usually, regardless of whether that passage is granted or not, things tend to end badly.
I suggest both sides pull their heads out of their asses before the Amarrians get any ideas.
I agree. |
Tarren Vetal
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:02:00 -
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Stolle Collale should be ashamed of himsef--he needlessly escalated the confrontation while communicating with the Minmatar fleet, and I am of the opinion the whole fight could have been avoided, or would have remained an uneasy standoff, if he had chosen his words with even a modicum of care.
Regardless, however, the Republic Fleet acted shamefully as well. They cannot have expected the Federation Navy to have allowed a large, hostile force enter Gallente space unchallenged, and the disregard of certain elements of the Minmatar government for due process and the rule of law in the wake of the Midular tragedy is shameful. If the leadership of the Republic wants respect, they should afford basic respect to their allies. The Gallente, as much as it pains me to say, have been exemplary in their handling of this affair, before today.
I have nothing but utmost respect for the capsuleers who tried to stop this fight today. As for the Minmatar partisans and the chaos-seekers who endorsed bloodshed, for no clear goal other than patching up their injured sense of pride, you should be ashamed of yourselves. If the Republic squanders what goodwill it retains in such fits of pique, it will not be long for this world. |
TomHorn
Caldari Waffen Legion
98
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:05:00 -
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Quote:=Julianus Soter]Mentas Blaque and Thoun Gatarau.... How many souls have you slaughtered today? Now and in the future?
You cant keep blaming Black Eagles and FIO Soter. They work for the Goverment. The current Gallente Federation President is Jacus Roden. The buck stops with him . |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2731
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:11:00 -
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For once in a long time I actually have fear for the future, and not over strengths of our foes - for there are always foes, but the weaknesses of our allies.
Ambition can be quenched by defeat and fatigue, greed can be cured by loss, hate is beaten by love. Ignorance falls to enlightenment.
But nothing has ever defeated human weakness.
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Grideris
Fleet Coordination Commission Fleet Coordination Coalition
623
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:13:00 -
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I did what I could to keep the peace. I tried to reason with them. I tried to suck the energy from them, remove their will to fight. But they would not listen. It wasn't enough. Blood has been spilt this day by my hands, and now they are stained. Now I'm not sure what I can do.
All I can do is hope this doesn't escalate to another war. There is already enough conflict in this cluster, more violence is not the answer. Think of what Karin Midular would have wanted. The last thing she would want is more death, especially in the wake of her own. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Ugleb
Jotunn Risi
343
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:20:00 -
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Today I stood beside my brothers and sisters of the Republic Fleet and called upon the Gallente to recognise our claim to justice. Not for the first time in recent months have the Gallente shown an insitutional failure to understand the force of a Minmatar cultural imperative at work here. The death of a Ray of Matar is a sacred matter to us, for want of a better word they might grasp. The importance of this matter cannot be overstated.
Our brave brothers of the Fleet who stood their ground at Colelie tonight knew that they could and would not back down from this gesture, this plea for the Gallente to reconsider their position. We must have justice, if we shall not be heard, as we have not been throughout this ordeal, then our point had to be made. That is why I chose to stand by them today, and that is why at the end I disabled my safety switch and allowed for my ship and capsule to be destroyed alongside them.
Doubtless many of you will think this senseless. If so, you do not understand the demands of honour and respect. To do anything less would have been a disservice to their sacrifice.
Today is no victory, but neither is it a defeat. To be defeated would have been to not stand at all. http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
895
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:21:00 -
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Multiple pilots claimed to want a peaceful resolution to this conflict, and when push came to shove most were firing guns into one of either fleets.
Granted the ships could not be jammed due to entering siege mode, but the option to neutralise and repair were both available, and few pilots took the opportunity to do so. My thanks to those who did, and risked their ships repairing despite CONCORD penalties.
With regret CONCORD took to the field itself too late, I had hoped more lives could be saved by this point. Regardless, whether it was terrible diplomacy from members of the Federal Fleet, or the fact the Republic Fleet had no right to be there in the first place. Today was a pointless exchange of bloodshed and casualty counts, a hit to an alliance that does not need further weakening, and a terrible way to honour a woman who spent her life striving for peace.
Great ******* job the lot of you. Enjoy your gaming.
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Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
431
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:24:00 -
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TomHorn wrote:Quote:=Julianus Soter]Mentas Blaque and Thoun Gatarau.... How many souls have you slaughtered today? Now and in the future? You cant keep blaming Black Eagles and FIO Soter. They work for the Goverment. The current Gallente Federation President is Jacus Roden. The buck stops with him . I fail to see how it's their fault that their "allies" invaded their space with intent to fire and then acted upon that intent. |
Tala Kordes
Kordes Pharmaceutical
1
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:35:00 -
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I suppose both sides in this horrible conflict had governments and people to stand up for. I just hope this wont escalate further and destroy the friendship of these two glorious nations! |
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Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
165
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:37:00 -
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I thought it would be a sad day to see Karin Midular die. Sadly the day just got worse.
I'm most frustrated and angry towards the Republic Fleet, all the while I understand their position, there was no need for all this violence. If they truly cared for Midular they would not have engaged in hostilities in her name, with the Republic's allies, no less. Republic commanders threw their crews life away for what? For nothing. All they achieved was to dishonor Karin Midular's memory, shame themselves and cause more needless destruction and suffering in a universe that is already filled to the brim of the same. |
Marie D'Artois
D'Artois Legal Services
0
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:42:00 -
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TomHorn wrote:Quote:=Julianus Soter]Mentas Blaque and Thoun Gatarau.... How many souls have you slaughtered today? Now and in the future? You cant keep blaming Black Eagles and FIO Soter. They work for the Goverment. The current Gallente Federation President is Jacus Roden. The buck stops with him .
Indeed, interstellar diplomacy is not in FIO's mandate. This failure is Roden's, not Blaque's. |
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
171
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:43:00 -
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Tala Kordes wrote:I suppose both sides in this horrible conflict had governments and people to stand up for. I just hope this wont escalate further and destroy the friendship of these two glorious nations!
Oh yes, I'm sure they'll just forget all about it and have awkward moments of silence when a third party mentions it at a cocktail table. Because that's what happens when someone goes and destroys a sizeable amount of your capital vessels, not to mention all the lives of the citizens of your glorious nations aboard. - Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim ___________________________ Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation recruitment open. |
Shintoko Akahoshi
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
45
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:43:00 -
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Ugleb wrote:Not for the first time in recent months have the Gallente shown an insitutional failure to understand the force of a Minmatar cultural imperative at work here. The death of a Ray of Matar is a sacred matter to us, for want of a better word they might grasp. The importance of this matter cannot be overstated.
Oh, I couldn't agree with you more, Ugleb. The importance of this matter can not be overstated. But at least, as you point out, the families of all those crewmembers killed have had an opportunity to develop a better understanding of the force of a Minmatar cultural imperative at work. Nice work! Bio and writing |
Rioghal Morgan
Full Artificial Intelligence
1
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Posted - 2013.05.07 23:46:00 -
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I cannot fully express the level of sadness I feel at this grievous betrayal of my ancestral homeland by the Republic I've been fighting for these past months and the nation I grew up in. All I can say is that I must question my loyalties were the conflict to heighten further. |
Rioghal Morgan
Full Artificial Intelligence
1
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Posted - 2013.05.07 23:47:00 -
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Gosakumori Noh
Viziam Amarr Empire
198
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Posted - 2013.05.08 00:05:00 -
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I'm terribly accustomed to being right, of course, but it is still fun. Time is a weapon. We Amarr understand these things. Going back in time a wee bit:
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Captain Noh, are you really that simple, or do you just pretend?
The longer this is kept out of tribal hands, the longer we risk a conflict that we cannot afford.
That is not a threat. I voice my disagreement with the Federal decisions, but if it is my call, I will not start a war over them.
Am I still pretending, you poor, simple-minded little fool? Turns out I know you better than you know yourself, now, doesn't it, sweet pea. Catching up to the present:
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:I gave the order to the EM fleet to engage
I so love moments like this.
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ColonelNick
Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors
12
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Posted - 2013.05.08 00:09:00 -
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So the Fed and Matar are done cupping each others balls? Looks like the romance is getting rough.
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Caroline Grace
Almost Approved
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Posted - 2013.05.08 00:33:00 -
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I love Minmatars.
But if they think they will hotdrop at our territory, ninja-avoid cyno jammers and fly a whole dread army into our space like mad goats, they are dead wrong.
What happened today is an escalation of frustated Minmatars, which I completely understand. There should be some investigation, there should be some heavy apologies from Gallente side for lack of sharing intel.
But invading our space because of this, threatening our peace-keeping forces (we didn't start the shooting, remember?) and being rude is not what a friend does to his friend.
I hope this is not a war. I hope this can be solved through diplomacy now. The shooting was a disaster. The dead of your Ray of Matar was a disaster. We acted as arrogant goats. We are arrogant goats! We surely deserved some "cold" standing reset. But not inviding forces. Not like this. Not with violence. Let's keep it real. |
Derek Quaid
Discreet Bounties
156
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Posted - 2013.05.08 00:33:00 -
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Savages can't get enough fights with their enemies, so they go pick a fight with their allies. Predictable. CEO, Discreet Bounties In-game Channel: Discreet Bounties |
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