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Tophination
Officers of the Protectorate
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Posted - 2013.05.09 01:44:00 -
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I am looking for a fleet to join, or an orca pilot to allow me to use there bonus, if fleeted I would like to make a fair share, and if just finding an orca FC I would be willing to make a deal for payment. |
Null Exchange
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:23:00 -
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What area are you operating in? |
Dyphorus
VC Academy
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:42:00 -
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Most are going to see this as 'please let me in your fleet so I can pop your Orca'. |
Haulie Berry
616
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Posted - 2013.05.09 17:00:00 -
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Dyphorus wrote:Most are going to see this as 'please let me in your fleet so I can pop your Orca'.
Because that's how fleet mechanics work, right? |
Cap James Tkirk
Soldiers of Farscape Synthetic Systems
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Posted - 2013.05.09 17:19:00 -
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tbh your a small corp with only 2 members have you looked at joining a mining corp that offers fleet boosting as a daily thing
and do a shite ton of research on any corps you join chances are an orca pilot isnt going to randomly invite you to fleet because it is a possibilty u pop her
also try looking into some null sec corps tehy usually have alliance level fleet boosting going |
Haulie Berry
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Posted - 2013.05.09 17:24:00 -
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Cap James Tkirk wrote: and do a shite ton of research on any corps you join chances are an orca pilot isnt going to randomly invite you to fleet because it is a possibilty u pop her
No, seriously, what is the source of this idiocy? There's no greater danger of being popped by a fleetmate than there is of being popped by not-a-fleetmate.
If they want you to join their corp, be wary. If they want you to leave high sec, be wary. Otherwise, if they want to bring enough firepower to suicide a tanked orca, they really don't need to be in your fleet to do that. |
Skorpynekomimi
506
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Posted - 2013.05.09 21:19:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:Cap James Tkirk wrote: and do a shite ton of research on any corps you join chances are an orca pilot isnt going to randomly invite you to fleet because it is a possibilty u pop her
No, seriously, what is the source of this idiocy? There's no greater danger of being popped by a fleetmate than there is of being popped by not-a-fleetmate. If they want you to join their corp, be wary. If they want you to leave high sec, be wary. Otherwise, if they want to bring enough firepower to suicide a tanked orca, they really don't need to be in your fleet to do that.
Not much more than someone having a 'warp to zero' button on you. **** |
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
111
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Posted - 2013.05.09 21:46:00 -
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Ugh... stupid people everywhere...
Let me help you with that; if you invite a non-corp player into your gang/fleet and they attack you, Concord shows up and removes the attacker from their ship.
You can only fire on Corp mates and not suffer a Concord hotdrop in highsec.
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Tauranon
Weeesearch
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Posted - 2013.05.10 07:52:00 -
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Dyphorus wrote:Most are going to see this as 'please let me in your fleet so I can pop your Orca'.
Whilst you are out, you recieved a phone message from 2008 - apparently they want their Lofty exploit back.
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DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
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Posted - 2013.05.10 09:02:00 -
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Orca Moms all over Highsec allow random people to join as long as you behave. Ask in your local nicely if there is any T2 boost fleets up and if you can join. They may or may not let you, but if you've been around system for a while and they at least know OF you, then it's certainly possible. Most Orca pilots just don't want their little fleet of 'kids' bothered by some jackass, so don't be a jackass, got the idea. Check out my post about some Drone lovin: Proposed Drone Improvement |
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Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:21:00 -
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I would guess that anyone who runs an orca fleet open to the public has their orca sat in a tower so they are safe from awoxers apart from corp/alliance mates
Edit - this will change should CCP ever get rid of off grid boosting which is another story :) |
Danni stark
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:47:00 -
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Emma Royd wrote:I would guess that anyone who runs an orca fleet open to the public has their orca sat in a tower so they are safe from awoxers apart from corp/alliance mates
Edit - this will change should CCP ever get rid of off grid boosting which is another story :)
keep orca in npc corp, never worry about awoxing again. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Cap James Tkirk
Soldiers of Farscape Synthetic Systems
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:46:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:Cap James Tkirk wrote: and do a shite ton of research on any corps you join chances are an orca pilot isnt going to randomly invite you to fleet because it is a possibilty u pop her
No, seriously, what is the source of this idiocy? There's no greater danger of being popped by a fleetmate than there is of being popped by not-a-fleetmate. If they want you to join their corp, be wary. If they want you to leave high sec, be wary. Otherwise, if they want to bring enough firepower to suicide a tanked orca, they really don't need to be in your fleet to do that.
i guess you dont look through C&P with psychoticmonk and safaring good job being a pretensious a D-BAG plus i never said it was less danger between corpmates/fleetmates or neuts all can and may kill you 1 with concord retribution and one freely so yeahhhhhh fill your face with this 8 ============D enjoy please stop meta-reading and look at plain text |
Haulie Berry
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:49:00 -
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Cap James Tkirk wrote:Haulie Berry wrote:Cap James Tkirk wrote: and do a shite ton of research on any corps you join chances are an orca pilot isnt going to randomly invite you to fleet because it is a possibilty u pop her
No, seriously, what is the source of this idiocy? There's no greater danger of being popped by a fleetmate than there is of being popped by not-a-fleetmate. If they want you to join their corp, be wary. If they want you to leave high sec, be wary. Otherwise, if they want to bring enough firepower to suicide a tanked orca, they really don't need to be in your fleet to do that. i guess you dont look through C&P with psychoticmonkey and safaring good job being a pretensious arse hat
Oh, I've read it. Unlike you, I actually understood it.
"Safariing" is the act of joining someone's corp to AWOX them. You understand there is a difference between joining a corp and joining a fleet, right? You understand that these are completely different constructs governed by completely different sets of rules?
Apparently not.
I guess that explains where this idiocy comes from, though - Idiots who skipped to steps 3 and 4 of PM's safari guide.
Those first few steps - especially the bit where you join the a corp? Yeah, that's really ******* important.
OP did not ask to join a corp, nor did he ask anyone to join his corp. He asked for a fleet, which, by itself, is pretty much completely without value. |
Cap James Tkirk
Soldiers of Farscape Synthetic Systems
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:02:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:Cap James Tkirk wrote:Haulie Berry wrote:Cap James Tkirk wrote: and do a shite ton of research on any corps you join chances are an orca pilot isnt going to randomly invite you to fleet because it is a possibilty u pop her
No, seriously, what is the source of this idiocy? There's no greater danger of being popped by a fleetmate than there is of being popped by not-a-fleetmate. If they want you to join their corp, be wary. If they want you to leave high sec, be wary. Otherwise, if they want to bring enough firepower to suicide a tanked orca, they really don't need to be in your fleet to do that. i guess you dont look through C&P with psychoticmonkey and safaring good job being a pretensious arse hat Oh, I've read it. Unlike you, I actually understood it. "Safariing" is the act of joining someone's corp to AWOX them. You understand there is a difference between joining a corp and joining a fleet, right? You understand that these are completely different constructs governed by completely different sets of rules? Apparently not. I guess that explains where this idiocy comes from, though - Idiots who skipped to steps 3 and 4 of PM's safari guide. Those first few steps - especially the bit where you join the a corp? Yeah, that's really ******* important. OP did not ask to join a corp, nor did he ask anyone to join his corp. He asked for a fleet, which, by itself, is pretty much completely without value wrt ganking an orca.
then you should reall re-read my post as i state for the Op to look at joining a mining corp and researching them IE KILLBOARDs for stuff like AWOXING please keep falunting your huge INTERWEB muscles tehy frighten kittens everytime or even better keep your *special* comments to yourself and the shortbus where your helmet is might and impressive
cheers DBAG |
Haulie Berry
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:18:00 -
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Cap James Tkirk wrote:derp
Quote:...chances are an orca pilot isnt going to randomly invite you to fleet because it is a possibilty u pop her
If you're already in someone's corp, and you want to AWOX them, you understand that there is absolutely no need to be in their fleet... right? It doesn't really provide any particular benefit. It's not like an Orca is exactly stealthy.
Assuming AWOXer is already in corp, either the orca pilot is smart (and their safety is entirely without regard to fleet status), or they're stupid (and their safety is still without regard to fleet status).
WTZ isn't going to score me a kill on an Orca chilling in a private POS, and a lack of WTZ isn't going to deny me a kill on an orca sitting in a belt.
So, again: Your point had no particular merit within the current game mechanics, and you're silly for continually defending it. |
Danni stark
213
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:38:00 -
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i wonder how much i can make in odyssey pimping out my orca in a place with say, 3 ice anoms? it has perfect boosts, and i use a shield link... couldn't ask for much more. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Cap James Tkirk
Soldiers of Farscape Synthetic Systems
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Posted - 2013.05.10 20:47:00 -
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again i was making suggestions to OP and a few pointers on things like checking corps for awoxing the op not the other way around
please leave your interpertation skills and learn to read never said being in our out of fleet means protection stop wording my comments i simply stated but apparently to difficult for your meager intellect to grasp that op needs to be wary of joining random fleets he can be awoxed in a corp or in a random fleet
have a good day DBAG |
Haulie Berry
675
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Posted - 2013.05.10 23:55:00 -
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Cap James Tkirk wrote:again i was making suggestions to OP and a few pointers on things like checking corps for awoxing the op not the other way around
please leave your interpertation skills and learn to read never said being in our out of fleet means protection stop wording my comments i simply stated but apparently to difficult for your meager intellect to grasp that op needs to be wary of joining random fleets he can be awoxed in a corp or in a random fleet
have a good day DBAG
Calm down, bro, it's not my fault that you don't understand how fleet mechanics work.
I'm sure you'll learn someday. |
Ersahi Kir
Infinite Mobility SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.11 04:59:00 -
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Cap James Tkirk wrote:again i was making suggestions to OP and a few pointers on things like checking corps for awoxing the op not the other way around
please leave your interpertation skills and learn to read never said being in our out of fleet means protection stop wording my comments i simply stated but apparently to difficult for your meager intellect to grasp that op needs to be wary of joining random fleets he can be awoxed in a corp or in a random fleet
have a good day DBAG
Haulie is correct, and your highlighting your lack of understanding.
To break it down barney style: 1. Kill rights are not granted by joining a fleet 2. Kill rights are granted by joining a corp
So...joining a fleet is ok, joining a corp is dangerous.
/orca pilot |
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xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.05.12 03:59:00 -
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Emma Royd wrote:I would guess that anyone who runs an orca fleet open to the public has their orca sat in a tower so they are safe from awoxers apart from corp/alliance mates
Edit - this will change should CCP ever get rid of off grid boosting which is another story :)
CCP cant **** with OGB as it will make the rorqual pointless. No sane person would siege the damn thing in a belt in null sec to get their uber boosts.
If you cant provide links from a POS null sec industry would grind to a halt. |
DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
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Posted - 2013.05.12 05:14:00 -
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Quote:CCP cant **** with OGB as it will make the rorqual pointless. No sane person would siege the damn thing in a belt in null sec to get their uber boosts.
If you cant provide links from a POS null sec industry would grind to a halt. All CCP needs to do is take a page from Trion Worlds (Rift) and tweak the programming code so that certain ships would be required to be on grid for their gang modules to work, and others not. Or they could just make it so that all T3 , BC, CS and Cap ship (excluding Rorq) would have their Gang Module effectiveness to ships only within 250km. The Rorqual could have a completely separate set of Gang Mods specifically for it that have a range of "System" since it's really the only ship that needs to boost from a POS. ALL other ships should be on grid and in harms way the entire time they are boosting. I include the Orca as on-grid since it's mainly used for Highsec carebears and can be very well tanked so sitting in the belt instead of the relative safety of AT 0 to the local Station would help with AFK mining that everyone seems to hate so much. That is all. |
Danni stark
225
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Posted - 2013.05.12 08:23:00 -
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xPredat0rz wrote:Emma Royd wrote:I would guess that anyone who runs an orca fleet open to the public has their orca sat in a tower so they are safe from awoxers apart from corp/alliance mates
Edit - this will change should CCP ever get rid of off grid boosting which is another story :) CCP cant **** with OGB as it will make the rorqual pointless. No sane person would siege the damn thing in a belt in null sec to get their uber boosts. If you cant provide links from a POS null sec industry would grind to a halt.
or people would just use orcas. it's only a 14% yield difference. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.05.12 10:43:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:xPredat0rz wrote:Emma Royd wrote:I would guess that anyone who runs an orca fleet open to the public has their orca sat in a tower so they are safe from awoxers apart from corp/alliance mates
Edit - this will change should CCP ever get rid of off grid boosting which is another story :) CCP cant **** with OGB as it will make the rorqual pointless. No sane person would siege the damn thing in a belt in null sec to get their uber boosts. If you cant provide links from a POS null sec industry would grind to a halt. or people would just use orcas. it's only a 14% yield difference.
14% is huge when your talking null sec mining. Tends to be the difference between not ******* worth it and I can actually make some isk off of this.
Most of the serious miners i know would run 20 hulks/macks with a rorq in transformer mode(if you have ever seen it you know what i mean) With a second rorq hauling **** back and forth to station. Once the mining was all done for the week he would use both rorqs in a pos to compress it all.
Its 280% more yield at the end of the op.
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Danni stark
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:02:00 -
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xPredat0rz wrote:Its 280% more yield at the end of the op. bro, do you even math? Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
7773
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:46:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:
No, seriously, what is the source of this idiocy? There's no greater danger of being popped by a fleetmate than there is of being popped by not-a-fleetmate.
This actually happened twice in the Alliance I was in 3 years ago when I started playing.
Again, you just never type any kind of real information at all. -áGÇ£The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.GÇ¥-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
trevormax
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:53:00 -
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xPredat0rz wrote:Emma Royd wrote:I would guess that anyone who runs an orca fleet open to the public has their orca sat in a tower so they are safe from awoxers apart from corp/alliance mates
Edit - this will change should CCP ever get rid of off grid boosting which is another story :) CCP cant **** with OGB as it will make the rorqual pointless. No sane person would siege the damn thing in a belt in null sec to get their uber boosts. If you cant provide links from a POS null sec industry would grind to a halt.
risk = reward. Null sec is supposed to be very risky. Maybe there is more risk than the reward you would get however v0v |
Danni stark
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Posted - 2013.05.12 13:07:00 -
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trevormax wrote:xPredat0rz wrote:Emma Royd wrote:I would guess that anyone who runs an orca fleet open to the public has their orca sat in a tower so they are safe from awoxers apart from corp/alliance mates
Edit - this will change should CCP ever get rid of off grid boosting which is another story :) CCP cant **** with OGB as it will make the rorqual pointless. No sane person would siege the damn thing in a belt in null sec to get their uber boosts. If you cant provide links from a POS null sec industry would grind to a halt. risk = reward. Null sec is supposed to be very risky. Maybe there is more risk than the reward you would get however v0v
so you have to siege a 2+bn isk ship in an anomaly that doesn't have to be scanned down, in order to mine ore that then has to be converted in to isk on the market, and then you end up with less isk, than ratting in a battlecruiser?
yup, sounds like on grid boosting is very balanced in that respect. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Haulie Berry
699
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Posted - 2013.05.12 16:35:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Haulie Berry wrote:
No, seriously, what is the source of this idiocy? There's no greater danger of being popped by a fleetmate than there is of being popped by not-a-fleetmate.
This actually happened twice in the Alliance I was in 3 years ago when I started playing. Again, you just never type any kind of real information at all.
And I'm sure there's just totally no way they could have done it without being fleeted, because orcas are highly stealthy and difficult to find without wtz, right?
That it happened in your alliance has ****-all to do with being in a fleet. |
Ersahi Kir
Infinite Mobility SpaceMonkey's Alliance
151
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Posted - 2013.05.13 04:48:00 -
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edited cuz |
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