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Famine Aligher'ri
2 Girls - 1 Corp I Know Right
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:36:00 -
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I didn't read every post in this thread, but I did read the OP and some responses.
Let me start off by saying that I am a very old pirate player who roams primarily in null-sec. I'm not the best player, but I have been around the block and as far as I know, I'm one of the last pirate players who is still active and still in the trade. A good portion of the best pirates I've ever flown with have either left the game or left the trade because the trade itself is dying. My experience in the trade stems as far as 2004. I was in the first few pirate alliances (before alliance code) and have flown with majority of the famous pirate pilots and corporations you hear stories from.
The reason I have stayed true the trade (even with all 5 of my pirate accounts) is because it's fun. I never got into the whole alliance politics, fleet battles, mission running or mining because piracy fit me as a character IRL. No, I'm not a pirate IRL, but I do like to play vile competitive gameplay where it's not griefing, but fun player-versus-player activities that's unique. There is also the whole RP themes of playing a pirate (similar to a thief or rogue) that I like too.
Why someone like me might destroy your ship and your pod is because it's fun to play that role. It's fun to play the role of a pirate where we are either ransoming ships for ISK or destroying ships for loot. That's what we do as our trade or our class. It would be like playing a thief and stealing items from other players. If you took that steal skill away, then it's hard to justify our class as a true thief. Therefore, it's not necessarily about the value of items you steal as a thief, it's the act of simply stealing items. In example, the act of destroying your drake as a Pirate.
Besides my experience in EVE, I've played MUD's since the late 90's and all the MMO's on the block. Thus, I can totally understand both sides of the fence on what I do. Sometimes when I destroy a ship, the player feels pissed off and wants to quit the game. Sometimes they have fun and say, "GF" while going on their merry way. Everyone is different in some way and I have learned to understand every one of my encounters over the years.
For me, besides the act of ransoming or killing a ship, I also simply enjoy looting items. Very very MMO's out there have looting in their games anymore because of how players cannot accept loss like they used to back in the text-based days. Because of that, looting is also a big part of why I do what I do. Looting your Drake for example can lead to profit for me in my trade regardless if the final sale was 10 Million ISK or 40 Million ISK. It all adds up and the amount of time spent didn't cost me that amount of money to earn the final result.
To end, I understand your concerns. Just understand that everything from being in the trade to looting your dead corpse is all part of the ultimate EVE experience. That's what sets EVE apart from other games out there. I do what I do to relive that experience the same way each time like a drug dealing searching for that virgin high. Your destruction is my high.
Famine Aligher'ri Master Pirate
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Rykuss
In Praise Of Bacchus
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Posted - 2013.05.10 17:43:00 -
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This isn't high-sec. The rules don't change for you, just because you don't want to engage. You gambled that your enemies wouldn't get to you before you finished the anomaly and lost. You probably don't know how anomalies work then. D-scan probably would've saved you some grief. I'm terrible at probing people down but even I manage to do so frequently. You know why? Because people come to null to rat and either don't use D-scan or haven't bothered to properly set it up, same goes for their overview.
You also seem to take the loss personally. It's a game, it's null and you're entertainment value is roughly about two minutes max on coms, before the next target is hunted down. I think you'll find, depending on where you go, that people will offer advice. You should listen to it. Flying around in "Asmodai Xodai's Drake" makes you a target. Belt and anomaly ratting in "Asmodai Xodai's Drake" makes you a target. Sitting there for twenty minutes in "Asmodai Xodai's Drake" makes you an even better target.
Entering local and typing, "Hey gaiz, how is everyone this evening" and belt or anomaly ratting in "Asmodai Xodai's Drake" is a guarantee that you will be a target. I'm not implying that this is what you did, but it is the typical behavior observed of the people that leave high-sec, get popped and then come to the forum to make a thread about it. Can I have your vindicator? |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:15:00 -
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It's real PvP. You can choose to be helpless by easy-buttoning PvE content instead of flying in hostile space ready for combat. I would question the gameplay style more of the person that 'checks the block' to breeze thru PvE rather than the people that understand the risks outside of high sec.
If 'playing' a game is checking some cheat sheet with what to tank, what to load, who is a trigger.....then fly into hostile space only fitted for that...the problem isn't with the pirates. They are actually PLAYING THE GAME. Moment to moment, risk versus reward.
I ask the OP the exact same question, really. What could you possibly get from such an uninvolved game effort?
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Asmodai Xodai
Legio Geminatus Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:54:00 -
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Moneta Curran wrote:Nevertheless, arbalest launchers don't come cheap and you were carrying some loot there as well.
I get tons of arbalest launchers (and other 'named' brands) from the rats. In fact, most arbalest launchers I get I can't even use - they are torpedo or cruise missle launchers. But some are the types I can fit, so I use them.
I have a couple of pages of inventory in that hanger that's nothing but 'named brand' launchers taken from rats.
You are right in that I'd forgotten about some loot in my cargohold. It was something I took off a rat, I believe in the neighborhood of 5mil ISK when I moused over it. Of course that's probably inflated nullsec numbers, but whatever. |
Asmodai Xodai
Legio Geminatus Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.10 18:57:00 -
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Alaric Faelen wrote: I ask the OP the exact same question, really. What could you possibly get from such an uninvolved game effort?
What uninvolved game effort? Ratting? That's just a means to an end - a way to make in-game money.
Don't assume that that's all I ever intend to do. |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.10 19:17:00 -
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You know you can right-click items in your hangar and 'stack all' right? That might help you with your "pages of nothing but named brand launchers" problem.
Geez, it's hard being a carebear.
So, we all sit with bated breath. What grand schemes were your named-launcher drake-ratting activities meant to fund?
Perhaps you were looking to purchase a Navy Auguror for the low price of 320m isk?
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.05.10 19:32:00 -
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As this thread has devolved into little more than back and forth flaming and other unproductive stuff, it has run its course. Locked. ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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