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Asatru Nornsbjorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.05.18 00:43:00 -
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Greetings EVE Pilots! \
My name is Asatru Normsbjorn, and I've recently been recruit scammed by the corporation name of ElitistOps which is part of Pandemic Legion in the amount of 5bil. Marshmellow Madness, recruiter from ElitistOps asked for 5bil isk as form of deposit for security clearance which will be returned to new recruit after 90 days if new recruit didn't participate in any suspicious activity during the period. I trusted big name alliance "Pandemic Legion" and deposited 5bil into ElitisOps corporate wallet. After submitting deposit and application to join ElitistOps, their CEO asked another 3bil deposit due to one of their member does not trust me even with 5bil deposit. I complained and this is not the initial agreement and either accept me or return 5bil isk back to me. Dishonorably, they refuse to return 5bil isk and started to reveal their true purpose of this recruit scam.
I am writing so that no more of this kind of victims should arise due to trusting the big name alliance Pandemic Legion. I will do my best to seek justice in resolving this issue and I hope Leaders of Pandemic Legion should pay attention in resolving this issue. I truly don't think Pandemic Legion is allowing this kind of scamming corporation to stand beside their fellow pilots.
Seriously for 5bil isk? Are you that broke?
Below is Conversation between me and recruiter
Asatru Nornsbjorn > I'll join PL marshmallow madness > i am one of those titans and one of those supers and one of those carriers =P Asatru Nornsbjorn > you have many toons marshmallow madness > i have 9 accounts active Asatru Nornsbjorn > wow Asatru Nornsbjorn > this is business for you marshmallow madness > this is PL Asatru Nornsbjorn > I can never get to do that marshmallow madness > give it time =) marshmallow madness > everyone in PL is rich you wont get left out Asatru Nornsbjorn > well I like to have some fun, sign me in marshmallow madness > k send deposit apply to corp marshmallow madness > i have APIs i'll submit them to alliance Asatru Nornsbjorn > deposit is sent Asatru Nornsbjorn > also applied to join marshmallow madness > kk marshmallow madness > i'll tell CEO to login for ap marshmallow madness > app Asatru Nornsbjorn > any word from CEO? marshmallow madness > he said he's eating dinner and is only on cellphone he'll be on in a bit marshmallow madness > probably jerking it marshmallow madness > CEO discovered what was fishy ... Blitzkreig was red to us at one point and wants to reject your app i convinced him that if you put in another 3b i will vouch for you and take on any other losses cause i think you legit Asatru Nornsbjorn > don't have enough isk dude Asatru Nornsbjorn > my total was 9 bil marshmallow madness > i will personally refund your 3b after 2 weeks marshmallow madness > **** marshmallow madness > ummm marshmallow madness > how much do you have? Asatru Nornsbjorn > this is getting way out of my league, as much as I want to be Pandemic Legion, I can't give all my isk to join Asatru Nornsbjorn > do you understand? marshmallow madness > yah Asatru Nornsbjorn > I had 9 bil and gave more than half away already marshmallow madness > i can front 1b of it if you can put in the other 2 Asatru Nornsbjorn > look man, if you guys having difficult in trusting in new recruit, I understand, I had put much faith in PL to put down 5bil, cause PL is big name. Asatru Nornsbjorn > I had difficult choice in depositing 5bil myself. Asatru Nornsbjorn > but I decided to give faith in first so you can too put faith in me Asatru Nornsbjorn > sorry but I can't put anymore isk. If you still can't trust me, that's fine, refund my deposit back and I will find another corp Asatru Nornsbjorn > well I got your answer Asatru Nornsbjorn > I just been rejected Asatru Nornsbjorn > can I have my deposit back? marshmallow madness > no Asatru Nornsbjorn > so is this becoming a scam? marshmallow madness > no Asatru Nornsbjorn > big name Pandemic Legion will scam against 1 individual? Asatru Nornsbjorn > what's happening? explain plz Asatru Nornsbjorn > am I misunderstanding? marshmallow madness > we are insterested in you joining we have a trust barrier do to your corp history we are asking you comply with a deposit you do not want to give us that amount so we cannot accept you sorry marshmallow madness > not sure what else there is to this Asatru Nornsbjorn > original agreement was 5bil Asatru Nornsbjorn > you changed agreement after the deposit has been made Asatru Nornsbjorn > this is called breach in agreement marshmallow madness > CEO changed it i can't override his will Asatru Nornsbjorn > ok, fine, all I'm asking is to return my deposit |
BadAssMcKill
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
253
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Posted - 2013.05.18 00:50:00 -
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Ur dumb xd Starships were meant to fly~
http://i.imgur.com/6j6cIZE.gif |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
1243
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:00:00 -
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Reads like it's your fault for not paying the full price (though who knows, probably a scam anyway) "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
715
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:21:00 -
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That's horrible :'( Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
Also, your boobs :o --áCCP Eterne, 2012.11.05 14:50 |
Fifth Blade
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
8
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Posted - 2013.05.18 02:24:00 -
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Asatru Nornsbjorn wrote:Greetings EVE Pilots! \
My name is Asatru Normsbjorn, and I've recently been recruit scammed by the corporation name of ElitistOps which is part of Pandemic Legion in the amount of 5bil. Marshmellow Madness, recruiter from ElitistOps asked for 5bil isk as form of deposit for security clearance which will be returned to new recruit after 90 days if new recruit didn't participate in any suspicious activity during the period. I trusted big name alliance "Pandemic Legion" and deposited 5bil into ElitisOps corporate wallet. This was your error.
Once something leaves your direct control, assume it is gone forever or do not part with it.
Welcome to eve. |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
824
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Posted - 2013.05.18 03:57:00 -
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You paid a 5 bil security deposit? What the ****. I'm Denzel Washington, and I play chess. |
Asatru Nornsbjorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.05.18 04:58:00 -
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I already expected people would say "you are dumb, stupid, it's your error to fall for such scam and etc" Please make more traffic and put more posts and make this thread interesting. This is exactly how I want it to be. My goal is to scratch Pandemic Legion's name more than 5bil isk worth. Big alliance should be scared of Propaganda. |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
824
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Posted - 2013.05.18 05:52:00 -
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Asatru Nornsbjorn wrote:I already expected people would say "you are dumb, stupid, it's your error to fall for such scam and etc" Please make more traffic and put more posts and make this thread interesting. This is exactly how I want it to be. My goal is to scratch Pandemic Legion's name more than 5bil isk worth. Big alliance should be scared of Propaganda.
I hear Goonswarm will recruit you with only a 500m deposit. They are definitely more honorable than PL. I'm Denzel Washington, and I play chess. |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
1245
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:31:00 -
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Asatru Nornsbjorn wrote:My goal is to scratch Pandemic Legion's over 5bil. Hah, good luck with that.
There's a reason they're not in Merc Contracts channel yet are the most powerful mercs in the game. People already know what they can be like, and no one cares because they kill EVERYTHING "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1413
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Posted - 2013.05.18 08:17:00 -
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Asatru Nornsbjorn wrote:My goal is to scratch Pandemic Legion's name more than 5bil isk worth. Big alliance should be scared of Propaganda.
Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
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Marianne Pollard
University of Caille Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.05.18 10:05:00 -
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It pains me to promote this further, however I am unable to resist the stupid, and felt compelled to comment. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
695
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Posted - 2013.05.18 10:08:00 -
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well... if it walks like a duck...
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
221
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Posted - 2013.05.18 10:32:00 -
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Disgraceful. PL, like their fellow space pilots Goonswarm, are the epitome of Honorable Internet Spaceship Pilots and never scam anybody, ever.
This is an obvious attempt to smear the good name of PL by Nefarious People.
I suspect the Russians, of course.
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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
187
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:11:00 -
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Asatru Nornsbjorn wrote: My goal is to scratch Pandemic Legion's name more than 5bil isk worth. Big alliance should be scared of Propaganda.
Good Job...you lost 5b to tell us things we already know. For your next propaganda project you should do "Goon took mah stuff". |
Sanai Nobuseri
Evil .inc
7
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:46:00 -
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I Laughed >_< Hard. |
El Zeta
Eve Fail Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:54:00 -
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You madam, deserve to be in my corp
Asatru Nornsbjorn wrote:Greetings EVE Pilots! \
My name is Asatru Normsbjorn, and I've recently been recruit scammed by the corporation name of ElitistOps which is part of Pandemic Legion in the amount of 5bil. Marshmellow Madness, recruiter from ElitistOps asked for 5bil isk as form of deposit for security clearance which will be returned to new recruit after 90 days if new recruit didn't participate in any suspicious activity during the period. I trusted big name alliance "Pandemic Legion" and deposited 5bil into ElitisOps corporate wallet. After submitting deposit and application to join ElitistOps, their CEO asked another 3bil deposit due to one of their member does not trust me even with 5bil deposit. I complained and this is not the initial agreement and either accept me or return 5bil isk back to me. Dishonorably, they refuse to return 5bil isk and started to reveal their true purpose of this recruit scam.
I am writing so that no more of this kind of victims should arise due to trusting the big name alliance Pandemic Legion. I will do my best to seek justice in resolving this issue and I hope Leaders of Pandemic Legion should pay attention in resolving this issue. I truly don't think Pandemic Legion is allowing this kind of scamming corporation to stand beside their fellow pilots.
Seriously for 5bil isk? Are you that broke?
Below is Conversation between me and recruiter
Asatru Nornsbjorn > I'll join PL marshmallow madness > i am one of those titans and one of those supers and one of those carriers =P Asatru Nornsbjorn > you have many toons marshmallow madness > i have 9 accounts active Asatru Nornsbjorn > wow Asatru Nornsbjorn > this is business for you marshmallow madness > this is PL Asatru Nornsbjorn > I can never get to do that marshmallow madness > give it time =) marshmallow madness > everyone in PL is rich you wont get left out Asatru Nornsbjorn > well I like to have some fun, sign me in marshmallow madness > k send deposit apply to corp marshmallow madness > i have APIs i'll submit them to alliance Asatru Nornsbjorn > deposit is sent Asatru Nornsbjorn > also applied to join marshmallow madness > kk marshmallow madness > i'll tell CEO to login for ap marshmallow madness > app Asatru Nornsbjorn > any word from CEO? marshmallow madness > he said he's eating dinner and is only on cellphone he'll be on in a bit marshmallow madness > probably jerking it marshmallow madness > CEO discovered what was fishy ... Blitzkreig was red to us at one point and wants to reject your app i convinced him that if you put in another 3b i will vouch for you and take on any other losses cause i think you legit Asatru Nornsbjorn > don't have enough isk dude Asatru Nornsbjorn > my total was 9 bil marshmallow madness > i will personally refund your 3b after 2 weeks marshmallow madness > **** marshmallow madness > ummm marshmallow madness > how much do you have? Asatru Nornsbjorn > this is getting way out of my league, as much as I want to be Pandemic Legion, I can't give all my isk to join Asatru Nornsbjorn > do you understand? marshmallow madness > yah Asatru Nornsbjorn > I had 9 bil and gave more than half away already marshmallow madness > i can front 1b of it if you can put in the other 2 Asatru Nornsbjorn > look man, if you guys having difficult in trusting in new recruit, I understand, I had put much faith in PL to put down 5bil, cause PL is big name. Asatru Nornsbjorn > I had difficult choice in depositing 5bil myself. Asatru Nornsbjorn > but I decided to give faith in first so you can too put faith in me Asatru Nornsbjorn > sorry but I can't put anymore isk. If you still can't trust me, that's fine, refund my deposit back and I will find another corp Asatru Nornsbjorn > well I got your answer Asatru Nornsbjorn > I just been rejected Asatru Nornsbjorn > can I have my deposit back? marshmallow madness > no Asatru Nornsbjorn > so is this becoming a scam? marshmallow madness > no Asatru Nornsbjorn > big name Pandemic Legion will scam against 1 individual? Asatru Nornsbjorn > what's happening? explain plz Asatru Nornsbjorn > am I misunderstanding? marshmallow madness > we are insterested in you joining we have a trust barrier do to your corp history we are asking you comply with a deposit you do not want to give us that amount so we cannot accept you sorry marshmallow madness > not sure what else there is to this Asatru Nornsbjorn > original agreement was 5bil Asatru Nornsbjorn > you changed agreement after the deposit has been made Asatru Nornsbjorn > this is called breach in agreement marshmallow madness > CEO changed it i can't override his will Asatru Nornsbjorn > ok, fine, all I'm asking is to return my deposit
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Craggus
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
95
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:34:00 -
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That convo was obviously doctored. PL are honorable space captains who would never scam. |
StoneCold
Somali Coast Guard BootCamp
182
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Posted - 2013.05.18 17:42:00 -
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Craggus wrote:That convo was obviously doctored. PL are honorable space captains who would never scam.
I copy that. Like anyone would app to ElitistOps :P
With 5 seconds of your time and google you probably had found www.pandemic-legion.com with the recruitment forums. I guess you just failed at the 1st part :(
Still: sorry to hear that you are soooooo space rich that you can toss 5b like that. My true stories |
Kais Klip
Rhokri
6
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Posted - 2013.05.18 18:36:00 -
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My friend don't take this as an insult, but not only does your trust of 5bil in this instance strike me as moronically naive, but also tells of a lack in understanding day-to-day logical societal negotiations, which eve serves as an incredible simulator of:
They requested 5bil for 90 days as a collateral of sorts to insure themselves from any negative impact your successful application might ensue. You would have avoided this sum were you to question yourself, and thus them, on the appropriate way in which one would be able to inflict 5 billion ISK worth of damages on them (which the collateral serves to protect them from) within 90 days, given your stature as a new recruit. By not questioning the collateral you ensured that only one party - them - was insured from any negative consequences (of up to 5bil ISK) of this particular deal.
Put simply, you did not collateralize your collateral which you gave onto them, an action which would have insured both parties against damages in the value of said collateral.
There is no trick to common societal sense such as this; everyone naturally seeks their own profit in all their actions, so all you need to do to guarantee you see a similar way to profit is simply question everything that is asked of you, an action which will result at its conclusion either a satisfactory deal to both logically-adept parties or, in this instance, the branding of one as a social moron in that instance by the other, and any third parties that spectate (very much the rest of this thread).
The good news is you came away from this situation with a lesson learned far more valuable than 5bil ISK.
Right? |
SETH KAIN
Dirty jobs Inc.
7
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Posted - 2013.05.18 18:40:00 -
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I would never pay to join a corp in the first place. What were you thinking? |
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Reppyk
Yarrbear Inc. BricK sQuAD.
416
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Posted - 2013.05.18 19:22:00 -
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You got penif'd. I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. -áI AM A LOWSEC GANKER, HIGHSEC SCUM, NULLSEC BASTARD, WORMHOLE INVADER. Welcome to, welcome to, welcome to my scramble. GÖÑ |
Silvara Nocturn
Nocturn Industries
31
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Posted - 2013.05.18 20:47:00 -
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I appreciate the warning. |
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
40
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Posted - 2013.05.18 22:57:00 -
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Once they hooked you on the scam did 300 other scammers suddenly appear in the channel? Because if not, this doesn't honestly sound like PL and I question the veracity of your story |
Clith
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
98
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Posted - 2013.05.19 12:10:00 -
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I am sorry to hear of your bad experience with ElitistOps. If however you would still like to be a part of Pandemic Legion, contact me in game and for a :small fee: I will vouch you in. |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1858
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:26:00 -
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Pretty sure both people in that chatlog are the same person based on the identical grammatical style / broken English. Which is also the same as the OP.
Either:
a) Logs are made up by OP. b) OP is an alt of the 'scammer' making threads for attention
e: OP and 'scammer' are nearly identical in age, so it's likely b) - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Hlynurth
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
91
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:20:00 -
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ATXI champs are now recruiting, send me 500mil and apply to HABIT |
Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1732
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:36:00 -
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ATXI champs are now recruiting, send me 499mil and apply to HABIT SNIGG#1.
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
432
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:58:00 -
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In fairness, who would recruit somebody named Asatru Nornsbjorn without some form of security deposit ?
I see no wrong here, just the OP succeeding at failing the are you poor and needy test by not being able to cough up an additional 3b after the initial 5b and suspicions were raised.
Black Man with Goggles |
Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
523
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:36:00 -
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They gotta pay for that Revenant loss somehow you know.... |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3443
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:53:00 -
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Hi !
I'm an alt of a higher up in the hierarchy in ElitistOps, with access to the corporate wallet. Yes, i can freely post on the forums because there is no need to hide for me, as they have no idea and would never suspect anything. :)
I suspected things like these were going on for quite a while already, but i never actually had any proof of this happening, thus i thank you for finally providing proof of what i have suspected happening for quite a while already.
I am sorry for my weird english, it is not my main language.
Anyway, as i am one of the only people in ElitistOps not willing to take part in any of this attitude, i am willing to send you your money back, but ... of course ! ... it'll cost ya.
Your five billion isk in our wallet - which we lovely call "the endless pit" - are a mere drop in the bucket and nobody actually cares or pays attention.
So here's the deal. As you can surely imagine i'm risking my position in our corp by helping you, (obviously have to use my main for this) so at least i want to have my fair share of the money. Although our endless pit has enough money so that removing 5 billion isk isn't ending the world for us, it's still hard work to get said five billion isk out of the corporate wallet without anybody noticing... just in case, to be safe. (imagine lots of overpriced things i have to buy from alts like modules or other things needed, giving a bit too much in reimbursements to members i can trust, etc etc ... it sums up, but it's annoying as hell).
So ... if you want to get your 5 billion isk back, you have to send one billion isk to one of my other alts whose name i will mail you after you have contacted me ingame. If that sounds a lot, let me remind you that in this case 5-1 still leaves you with 4, but in the other case the amount you'll receive will stay zero.
I'm offering help ... but i really don't give a damn if you accept it or not. |
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