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Bloody Wench
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:39:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:
No, it wasn't fun. The "easy button" is never fun, in games, or in real life.
Then we'll just have to disagree. People can disagree, it's ok. I enjoy riding way too fast on public roads, and I can't tell you the amount of grief I get about that from friends and family. Ultimately it's my choice and I'll live with, or die by, the outcomes. Not everyone sees things the same way. We can't always help what we enjoy.
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Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
172
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:48:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:
No, it wasn't fun. The "easy button" is never fun, in games, or in real life.
Then we'll just have to disagree. People can disagree, it's ok. I enjoy riding way too fast on public roads, and I can't tell you the amount of grief I get about that from friends and family. Ultimately it's my choice and I'll live with, or die by, the outcomes. Not everyone sees things the same way. We can't always help what we enjoy.
Driving fast, IRL, is not the same as cheating in an MMO. I have an old Datsun that I've tweaked to over 400 horsepower. With my own hands. Think I don't know a thing or two about speed? You're not lessening everyone else's driving experience by having a faster ride than them (unless you're being a total pillock on the motorway, and directly endangering the other drivers). You ARE lessening other people's gaming experience when you cheat... and furthermore, people ragequit over cheaters. Every account that chucks the deuces is less income for CCP. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |
Malak Dawnfire
The Scope Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:08:00 -
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Did I miss something last night? AP0? Guessing a way to bypass the 15km or so autopilot travel distance before a warp? |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
1828
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:12:00 -
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Applicable.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14326
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:12:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:I enjoy riding way too fast on public roads, and I can't tell you the amount of grief I get about that from friends and family. Ultimately it's my choice and I'll live with, or die by, the outcomes. Good. Hopefully, they'll grief you into stop being an ass before the grief becomes real. Because ultimately, you're not the only one that will have to live or die by the outcome of your idiocy. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7903
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:19:00 -
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Malak Dawnfire wrote:Did I miss something last night? AP0? Guessing a way to bypass the 15km or so autopilot travel distance before a warp?
The OP felt that he, unlike the rest of the playerbase, is exempt to the limitations put in place by the game developers. As a result, he and others were given 30 day suspensions to show them the error of their ways. mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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CCP Stillman
C C P C C P Alliance
527
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:23:00 -
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The strike isn't against the character, it's against an "individual"(the owner of the account) as we can see it in our system.
If you sell the character, the owner does not inherit the strike. If you create a new account the strike does not transfer directly, but a GM will notice that you have an account which has done naughty things, and they will take that into account.
My suggestion would be to stay on the right side of the law from now on, and you'll be fine. An AP0 infraction is serious, mind you.
If you have any further or specific questions, I my recommendation will be to file a petition, and a GM can help you further Just a random dude in Team Security. |
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Bloody Wench
355
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:24:00 -
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Andski wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:Did I miss something last night? AP0? Guessing a way to bypass the 15km or so autopilot travel distance before a warp? The OP felt that he and 2300 others, are exempt to the limitations put in place by the game developers. As a result, he and others were given 30 day suspensions to show them the error of their ways.
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Bloody Wench
355
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:25:00 -
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CCP Stillman wrote:The strike isn't against the character, it's against an "individual"(the owner of the account) as we can see it in our system. If you sell the character, the owner does not inherit the strike. If you create a new account the strike does not transfer directly, but a GM will notice that you have an account which has done naughty things, and they will take that into account. My suggestion would be to stay on the right side of the law from now on, and you'll be fine. An AP0 infraction is serious, mind you. If you have any further or specific questions, I my recommendation will be to file a petition, and a GM can help you further
Cheers BigEars.
Oh and lift the bans? Since it's the 18th and all. It's your name on the ticket. I gotz me some autopiloting to do. Support a Hi Resolution Texture Pack |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2617
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:28:00 -
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Gtfo, you won't be missed. |
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Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
173
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:31:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:The strike isn't against the character, it's against an "individual"(the owner of the account) as we can see it in our system. If you sell the character, the owner does not inherit the strike. If you create a new account the strike does not transfer directly, but a GM will notice that you have an account which has done naughty things, and they will take that into account. My suggestion would be to stay on the right side of the law from now on, and you'll be fine. An AP0 infraction is serious, mind you. If you have any further or specific questions, I my recommendation will be to file a petition, and a GM can help you further Cheers BigEars. Oh and lift the bans? Since it's the 18th and all. It's your name on the ticket. I gotz me some autopiloting to do.
CCP didn't have to tempban you. You read the EULA. They could have permabanned you, in a number of ways... but they didn't. Ride out your ban until they are satisfied. Bothering them, and posting on the forums is probably only making them want to keep you tempbanned, longer. That's what I'd be doing to you... so I think it's safe to assume they are, too. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |
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CCP Stillman
C C P C C P Alliance
529
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:33:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:AP0 was just for fanfest, like Unholy Rage. It's no coincidence it always happens right before fanfest. Big PR exercise to placate the masses and give the impression that something is being done. Lets just address that once and for all.
At CCP we plan things before they can hit a live server. That involves, in this specific case:
- Initial idea
- Initial research to ensure task viability in this instance
- Planning of tasks
- Mapping it into a release
- Doing it
- Testing it
- Waiting for a deployment spot that's empty to decrease deployment risks
- Running in different activity states to slowly bring system only one piece at a time
- Analyzing data
- Deciding on what to do with the data
- Actually doing something with that data
The initial idea was created in the November/December time frame. From then on, it took until the point at which we banned the accounts in question to finish all of these steps. And when you have a project that takes this long, then you have an awfully high chance of the point where things are ready, given the fact we do 2 major releases every year. That means you have a 50% chance that things happen not long before fanfest. It's the nature of schedules.
Had we actively delayed it until fanfest, thus adding weeks from when we were ready till execution, then the argument would have been that we held it back to avoid upsetting people around fanfest. So yeah. Just a random dude in Team Security. |
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Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
237
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:33:00 -
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Ban the account before it can be traded. |
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CCP Stillman
C C P C C P Alliance
529
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:34:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:
Oh and lift the bans? Since it's the 18th and all. It's your name on the ticket. I gotz me some autopiloting to do.
That's all handled by a recurring database job. Most bans, depending on when they were applied, should be up by now. Just a random dude in Team Security. |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1011
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:38:00 -
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CCP Stillman wrote:The strike isn't against the character, it's against an "individual"(the owner of the account) as we can see it in our system. If you sell the character, the owner does not inherit the strike. If you create a new account the strike does not transfer directly, but a GM will notice that you have an account which has done naughty things, and they will take that into account. My suggestion would be to stay on the right side of the law from now on, and you'll be fine. An AP0 infraction is serious, mind you. If you have any further or specific questions, I my recommendation will be to file a petition, and a GM can help you further
how can you tell i am me?
credit card info?
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email? Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Anazzar
Howling Stones Mining Corporation
23
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Posted - 2013.05.18 18:25:00 -
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Odd that the OP was not perma-banned, would of considered this an ideal candidate but I guess CCP was lenient due to account age maybe? I dunno. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14327
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Posted - 2013.05.18 18:30:00 -
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Anazzar wrote:Odd that the OP was not perma-banned, would of considered this an ideal candidate but I guess CCP was lenient due to account age maybe? I dunno. GǪor maybe because the policy was 30 days on first strike, a lot longer on the second one?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Bloody Wench
355
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Posted - 2013.05.19 01:50:00 -
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Oh you cheeky bastards, pausing my training queue as well.
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Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
221
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:41:00 -
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CCP Stillman wrote:The strike isn't against the character, it's against an "individual"(the owner of the account) as we can see it in our system. If you sell the character, the owner does not inherit the strike. If you create a new account the strike does not transfer directly, but a GM will notice that you have an account which has done naughty things, and they will take that into account. My suggestion would be to stay on the right side of the law from now on, and you'll be fine. An AP0 infraction is serious, mind you. If you have any further or specific questions, I my recommendation will be to file a petition, and a GM can help you further The sunglasses made that post all the more awesome
Also when you permaban his account can you hand me all his stuff |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1416
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:59:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:The strike isn't against the character, it's against an "individual"(the owner of the account) as we can see it in our system. If you sell the character, the owner does not inherit the strike. If you create a new account the strike does not transfer directly, but a GM will notice that you have an account which has done naughty things, and they will take that into account. My suggestion would be to stay on the right side of the law from now on, and you'll be fine. An AP0 infraction is serious, mind you. If you have any further or specific questions, I my recommendation will be to file a petition, and a GM can help you further how can you tell i am me? credit card info? ip email?
All of the above. Plus a number of other things. Remember, you're running their software, after all. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
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Ecalos
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
0
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:44:00 -
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I get it.. Despite all the "selective enforcement" years ago with the wt0 hack it was technically against the Eula... We get it, the 30 day ban was warranted- maybe an official statement or warning first- but that is neither here nor there. The problem I have is suspending game service, while still charging someone for it.. I used the aphack on one of my characters while the other five clients were open so they all got banned.. I was wrong and have learned the error of my ways... But paying $90 for thirty days of not bein able to play isn't right.. The training time is forever lost, but the right thing to do would be the game time being credited to the banned accounts... |
Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
177
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:51:00 -
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Nyancat Audeles wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:The strike isn't against the character, it's against an "individual"(the owner of the account) as we can see it in our system. If you sell the character, the owner does not inherit the strike. If you create a new account the strike does not transfer directly, but a GM will notice that you have an account which has done naughty things, and they will take that into account. My suggestion would be to stay on the right side of the law from now on, and you'll be fine. An AP0 infraction is serious, mind you. If you have any further or specific questions, I my recommendation will be to file a petition, and a GM can help you further The sunglasses made that post all the more awesome Also when you permaban his account can you hand me all his stuff
I had first dibs, but I'll agree to split it with you, 50/50. Deal? "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |
baltec1
Bat Country
6489
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Posted - 2013.05.19 06:39:00 -
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Ecalos wrote:I get it.. Despite all the "selective enforcement" years ago with the wt0 hack it was technically against the Eula... We get it, the 30 day ban was warranted- maybe an official statement or warning first- but that is neither here nor there. The problem I have is suspending game service, while still charging someone for it.. I used the aphack on one of my characters while the other five clients were open so they all got banned.. I was wrong and have learned the error of my ways... But paying $90 for thirty days of not bein able to play isn't right.. The training time is forever lost, but the right thing to do would be the game time being credited to the banned accounts...
No the right thing to do is to not cheat in the first place. |
Azeroth Uluntil
e X i l e The Initiative.
0
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Posted - 2013.05.19 07:30:00 -
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Ecalos wrote:I get it.. Despite all the "selective enforcement" years ago with the wt0 hack it was technically against the Eula... We get it, the 30 day ban was warranted- maybe an official statement or warning first- but that is neither here nor there. The problem I have is suspending game service, while still charging someone for it.. I used the aphack on one of my characters while the other five clients were open so they all got banned.. I was wrong and have learned the error of my ways... But paying $90 for thirty days of not bein able to play isn't right.. The training time is forever lost, but the right thing to do would be the game time being credited to the banned accounts...
Definitely not. If your account was banned, you should still run through your time as per normal. If you charge back the time, keep the account banned until said time is paid. You paid to use a service, you screwed up and cheated somehow, you should be punished to the full extent possible.
Suck it up princess. |
Lexmana
947
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Posted - 2013.05.19 07:41:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Andski wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:Did I miss something last night? AP0? Guessing a way to bypass the 15km or so autopilot travel distance before a warp? The OP felt that he and 2300 others, are exempt to the limitations put in place by the game developers. As a result, he and others were given 30 day suspensions to show them the error of their ways. FIXT I bet you that the ***** used the same kind of rationalisation for their actions during the war ... |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
670
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Posted - 2013.05.19 09:32:00 -
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Ecalos wrote:I get it.. Despite all the "selective enforcement" years ago with the wt0 hack it was technically against the Eula... We get it, the 30 day ban was warranted- maybe an official statement or warning first- but that is neither here nor there. The problem I have is suspending game service, while still charging someone for it.. I used the aphack on one of my characters while the other five clients were open so they all got banned.. I was wrong and have learned the error of my ways... But paying $90 for thirty days of not bein able to play isn't right.. The training time is forever lost, but the right thing to do would be the game time being credited to the banned accounts...
All of your accounts should have been permanently banned. Don't be a cheating scumbag, because if you are a cheater once, chances are, you are a cheater for life. R Tape loading error |
Xayder
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
256
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Posted - 2013.05.19 09:34:00 -
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in short, you are focked
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Kusanagi Kasuga
Ferocious Felines
62
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Posted - 2013.05.19 09:41:00 -
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Really hope this topic is being considered as evidence, because the OP looks anything but contrite - making excuses, asking how much trouble they'd get in if they did it again, asking if there's a way to remove the black mark...
The crap you admit to doing ruins games and the only reason CCP should give you any leeway is in case you learn your lesson - and given you've been repeatedly banned from many games for cheating, you're not going to learn and you should be asked to leave ne'er to return. |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.05.19 12:49:00 -
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CCP should just perma ban you and give away all your posetions to a charity in real money!
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Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
617
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Posted - 2013.05.19 13:03:00 -
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When I think of bans, I like to remember my days on the oil rigs and what we did to cheaters in some of our poker games.
It was like "banning", but with more a more personal touch.
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