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Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
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Posted - 2013.05.21 10:40:00 -
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I just started an alt for accepting missions and trained the Connections skill to 3 on him. I then fleeted him for some L1 missions to get standing with my desired corporation. He now has a basic standing of 0.01 with my desired corporation and 0.06 with one agent. Normally the Connections skill should kick in and give me an additional 1.2 (I know the formula is a bit complicated and its just roughly 1.2 at this point), but after half a day waiting and several relogs the Connections bonus does not show?
What am I missing? Was there any change? Yay 10 years! :D |
J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
2207
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Posted - 2013.05.21 10:52:00 -
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Azure Moonlight wrote:I just started an alt for accepting missions and trained the Connections skill to 3 on him. I then fleeted him for some L1 missions to get standing with my desired corporation. He now has a basic standing of 0.01 with my desired corporation and 0.06 with one agent. Normally the Connections skill should kick in and give me an additional 1.2 (I know the formula is a bit complicated and its just roughly 1.2 at this point), but after half a day waiting and several relogs the Connections bonus does not show?
What am I missing? Was there any change?
4% modifier a level Level 3
That is a 12% modifier.
12% of 0.01 is 0.0012
So new standings....0.0112 = 0.01 When a WoW player leaves to return to WoW, the avg. IQ of both games rises. Request to CCP: Please patch stupidity out of the game for Winter 2013. Professional Forum Thread locker. |
Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
35
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:07:00 -
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Let me clearify, thats the formula I was used to:
Quote:Given that:
It is not the value of your standing which is increased by 4% per level of Connections; instead, the difference between 10 and your standing is decreased by 4% per level of Connections.
Then the equation is as follows:
(Effective standing) = 10-(10-S)*C
Where
S = existing standings C = 1-(0.04*Connections Level)
Example: S = 3.03, Connections level of 3.
10 - (10 - 3.03) * 0.88 = 3.8664
Intuition:
(10 - S) is the difference between your standing and 10. +ö = (10 - S) * C is that difference reduced by 4% per level of Connections.
Therefore 10 - +ö is your new standing.
So I guess that was changed the last 1-2 years? Yay 10 years! :D |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
214
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:12:00 -
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does it not have the message next to the corp (connections increases this from xxx to xxx)? |
Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
35
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:16:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:does it not have the message next to the corp (connections increases this from xxx to xxx)?
Somehow it doesnt. Mh... Or is there a minimum standing before Connections kicks in? Like 0.1 standing and before that there just is no bonus? Yay 10 years! :D |
J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
2208
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:28:00 -
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Azure Moonlight wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:does it not have the message next to the corp (connections increases this from xxx to xxx)? Somehow it doesnt. Mh... Or is there a minimum standing before Connections kicks in? Like 0.1 standing and before that there just is no bonus?
Only other reason I can possibly think of is that you need downtime to kick start it
When a WoW player leaves to return to WoW, the avg. IQ of both games rises. Request to CCP: Please patch stupidity out of the game for Winter 2013. Professional Forum Thread locker. |
Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
35
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:52:00 -
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After server restart still no bonus. Yay 10 years! :D |
Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
35
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:17:00 -
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How very odd, now I trained Criminal Connections to Lvl 1 and it kicked in immediately. So does this mean Connections only works on empire factions and corps, even if you have positive standing towards pirates? Yay 10 years! :D |
J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
2208
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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:56:00 -
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Azure Moonlight wrote:How very odd, now I trained Criminal Connections to Lvl 1 and it kicked in immediately. So does this mean Connections only works on empire factions and corps, even if you have positive standing towards pirates?
Let's pick the skill description:
Skill at interacting with friendly NPCs. 4% Modifier to effective standing from friendly NPC Corporations and Factions per level. Not cumulative with Diplomacy or Criminal Connections.
Didn't you see that highlighted word in the first place.
Friendly in the skill related stuff isn't related to your standings but to the EVE lore. When a WoW player leaves to return to WoW, the avg. IQ of both games rises. Request to CCP: Please patch stupidity out of the game for Winter 2013. Professional Forum Thread locker. |
Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
35
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:08:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Azure Moonlight wrote:How very odd, now I trained Criminal Connections to Lvl 1 and it kicked in immediately. So does this mean Connections only works on empire factions and corps, even if you have positive standing towards pirates? Let's pick the skill description: Skill at interacting with friendly NPCs. 4% Modifier to effective standing from friendly NPC Corporations and Factions per level. Not cumulative with Diplomacy or Criminal Connections. Didn't you see that highlighted word in the first place. Friendly in the skill related stuff isn't related to your standings but to the EVE lore.
Well of course I did see that, but if you do not know this from experience you hardly come to the right conclusion. As far as I understood it there are two sides of the coin. Connections for every standing over 0.0 and Diplomacy for everything lower. And a third skill for pirate corps, no matter what your standing is. The term friendly in that regard means not hostile/positve standing, I believed. There is no info whatsoever, that pirate factions are excluded. Besides calling pirates unfriendly, hows that? Never met a friendly pirate? Yarr... Yay 10 years! :D |
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
1844
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Posted - 2013.05.21 15:28:00 -
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If you just learned a level of Connections, then you may have to flush your cache to see a standing change.
Connections only works for standings > 0. Diplomacy only works for standing < 0.
Both have same formula:
Effective Standing = Unadjusted Standing + (10 - Unadjusted Standing) * 4% * Skill Level
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