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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
2500
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:40:00 -
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Hey everyone
As of today, the data/relic sites (the old hacking/archaeology) sites have been updated for highsec and lowsec. WeGÇÖre currently working on updating the 0.0 ones, which should be coming within the next 2-3 days.
For now, weGÇÖd love it if you tried our new exploration experience. Grab a ship, head into high sec or low sec and scan some signatures. What weGÇÖre looking for specifically, is stuff like:
- How do you like the look and feel of the new sites? We put in new containers and moved things around.
- How do you like the hacking challenge? What were the results? (what was your strength and coherency, did you win the challenges etc)
- How do you like the new looting mechanic?
Quick note: This thread is the sites/hacking game/loot mechanic. Probe, system scanner feedback etc, is not for this thread.
Also, I think I'll do a few known issues:
- There are some performance issues related to the clouds in some sites
- The 0.0 sites have all the containers on top of each other
Anyway, weGÇÖll be watching the thread for potential changes, thanks guys.
Soundwave
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
2500
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:40:00 -
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Sisi is being updated right now btw. |
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Salpun
Paramount Commerce
494
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:41:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Sisi is being updated right now btw. Did the remirror get deployed today? |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
2500
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:48:00 -
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Salpun wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Sisi is being updated right now btw. Did the remirror get deployed today?
Update today, remirror tomorrow! |
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Omnathious Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
1047
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:48:00 -
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The Server says its off line. Is there an ETA for when it will be back up? Ideas For Drone Improvement Repourpose Deep Space Scanner Probes |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
2500
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:50:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:The Server says its off line. Is there an ETA for when it will be back up?
40 minutes max I believe (15:30 EVE time) |
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Salpun
Paramount Commerce
494
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:51:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Salpun wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Sisi is being updated right now btw. Did the remirror get deployed today? Update today, remirror tomorrow! Sorry but I cant bug hunt then
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Ahnn
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:56:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Salpun wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Sisi is being updated right now btw. Did the remirror get deployed today? Update today, remirror tomorrow!
Great news, Soundwave, thanks! |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce
494
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:03:00 -
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Ahnn wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Salpun wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Sisi is being updated right now btw. Did the remirror get deployed today? Update today, remirror tomorrow! Great news, Soundwave, thanks! Yes it is great news lol.
Now if they got the new auto update password programing in to days build everything would be perfect. |
Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:04:00 -
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I wonder how COSMOS archeology sites and Epic ark missions that require hacking\archeology will be affected with those changes? I hope developers didn't forget to update loot tables for those old containers..
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MuraSaki Siki
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
18
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:04:00 -
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login right now, cant wait to try it |
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
330
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:04:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Also, I think I'll do a few known issues:
- There are some performance issues related to the clouds in some sites
- The 0.0 sites have all the containers on top of each other
Anyway, we'll be watching the thread for potential changes, thanks guys. Soundwave There are major performance issues with ALL the clouds, in every site / mission in the entire game - can you please, please, please just remove the damn things already, or at least make them optional. It would probably be the most popular feature in the entire expansion. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
130
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:09:00 -
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Grey Azorria wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Also, I think I'll do a few known issues:
- There are some performance issues related to the clouds in some sites
- The 0.0 sites have all the containers on top of each other
Anyway, we'll be watching the thread for potential changes, thanks guys. Soundwave There are major performance issues with ALL the clouds, in every site / mission in the entire game - can you please, please, please just remove the damn things already, or at least make them optional. It would probably be the most popular feature in the entire expansion.
+1.
At least add an option in configuration to remove these clouds. EVE is pretty, but I can't see it when I'm zoomed all the way out to try and salvage what little FPS I can when I'm having to navigate through one of these horrid things. |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
2501
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:12:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:I wonder how COSMOS archeology sites and Epic ark missions that require hacking\archeology will be affected with those changes? I hope developers didn't forget to update loot tables for those old containers..
Should be taken care of. The rule of thumb should be if a container has a "vital" component for completion, it will not scatter (and thereby not risk getting stuck), but if a container only contains loot, the scatter mechanic will apply. |
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
699
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:17:00 -
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how much are these sites even worth for isk? Would one of these in lowsec be as profitable as a gas cloud ladar site in lowsec? |
Dax Buchanan
Straya. Scrapyard.
2
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:26:00 -
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There was a lot of negativity expressed towards the scatter mechanic, the difficulty / player skill required for the hacking game and the loot (ie: junk) released in this thread Has this been addressed? |
Kor'el Izia
52
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:32:00 -
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Dax Buchanan wrote:There was a lot of negativity expressed towards the scatter mechanic, the difficulty / player skill required for the hacking game and the loot (ie: junk) released in this thread Has this been addressed? I think a lot of the potential damage could be mitigated by simply reusing the jetcan mechanics; allowing the scattered cans to live for 1-2h.
I quite like the anology someone posted to the fisherman |
Omnathious Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
1047
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:34:00 -
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Found a Decayed Guristas Particle Accelerator .4 space. Virus Strength is 30 Coherence is 125. I was able to complete the first spew can with about 50 Coherence remaining, the loot was worth about 12,200 ISK. The next 3 spew cans I was not able to successfully hack, and were destroyed. New Mini-Game overall challenge 8/10. Loot for Difficulty 1/10
The Dust cloud killed my FPS also Ideas For Drone Improvement Repourpose Deep Space Scanner Probes |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1470
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:41:00 -
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Not very well so far.
http://eve-files.com/dl/262592
Can is inside station and has a invisible wall keeping me about 7k away.
Site is "Decayed Blood Raider Mass Grave". CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it.
Idea for Improving NPE. |
MuraSaki Siki
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
18
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:43:00 -
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sorting option (by clicking the "Distance" "ID" etc.) not functional |
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Kata Amentis
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
76
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:45:00 -
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"anti virus suppressors" are basically a "give up" find. Reduces your attack to 1... only counter I've found is to use two of the "secondary vector" utilities (damage over time) on them, assuming you find those. Curiosity killed the Kata...
... but being immortal he wasn't too worried about keeping a count. |
Omnathious Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
1047
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:46:00 -
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Next site destroyed my fps, before I could even start the mini-game. Starting FPS 60, At the spew can 6 FPS Ideas For Drone Improvement Repourpose Deep Space Scanner Probes |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
2501
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:50:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Not very well so far. http://eve-files.com/dl/262592Can is inside station and has a invisible wall keeping me about 7k away. Site is "Decayed Blood Raider Mass Grave".
Filed a bug report, we'll check it out, thanks. |
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Mario delTorres
GBTeam C0VEN
8
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:50:00 -
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Is +1 Coherence bonus for level of Hacking/Archeology skill permanent? I think it should be little more, 5 for level at least... |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
2501
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:52:00 -
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Dax Buchanan wrote:There was a lot of negativity expressed towards the scatter mechanic, the difficulty / player skill required for the hacking game and the loot (ie: junk) released in this thread Has this been addressed?
We've reduced the number of cans and are looking at loot table again. In general though, the scattering and picking up of cans remains. |
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Omnathious Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
1047
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:58:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Dax Buchanan wrote:There was a lot of negativity expressed towards the scatter mechanic, the difficulty / player skill required for the hacking game and the loot (ie: junk) released in this thread Has this been addressed? We've reduced the number of cans and are looking at loot table again. In general though, the scattering and picking up of cans remains. The loot that I always seem to get is just data sheets, scrap metal, small arms, and electronic parts. Only twice have I gotten an item that is normally found in a Data or Relic site. Ideas For Drone Improvement Repourpose Deep Space Scanner Probes |
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CCP Soundwave
C C P C C P Alliance
2503
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:59:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Dax Buchanan wrote:There was a lot of negativity expressed towards the scatter mechanic, the difficulty / player skill required for the hacking game and the loot (ie: junk) released in this thread Has this been addressed? We've reduced the number of cans and are looking at loot table again. In general though, the scattering and picking up of cans remains. The loot that I always seem to get is just data sheets, scrap metal, small arms, and electronic parts. Only twice have I gotten an item that is normally found in a Data or Relic site.
Yep, we're going through it again. The value you get from these sites should rival or be slightly above what you're getting today. |
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CCP Affinity
C C P C C P Alliance
1018
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:06:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Grey Azorria wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Also, I think I'll do a few known issues:
- There are some performance issues related to the clouds in some sites
- The 0.0 sites have all the containers on top of each other
Anyway, we'll be watching the thread for potential changes, thanks guys. Soundwave There are major performance issues with ALL the clouds, in every site / mission in the entire game - can you please, please, please just remove the damn things already, or at least make them optional. It would probably be the most popular feature in the entire expansion. +1. At least add an option in configuration to remove these clouds. EVE is pretty, but I can't see it when I'm zoomed all the way out to try and salvage what little FPS I can when I'm having to navigate through one of these horrid things.
Just to clear this up - I fully intend to revisit the clouds in missions issue but that won't happen for Odyssey. The new hacking and archaeology sites DO NOT have mission clouds in them. We have removed all mission/old style clouds from the sites. The new containers have particle effects attached and the issue currently is that in some sites 6 cans are stacked on top of each other and 6 particle effects on top of each other will obviously cause FPS issues :) This has been fixed in some sites and will be fixed in all sites in the coming days. CCP Affinity | Follow me on Twitter Content Designer for EVE Online |
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Omnathious Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
1047
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:12:00 -
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Ok, did a Data site. Again loot was poor (but that has been addressed here) The mini-game was challenging again. 3 spew can were at the site, 1 was successfully hacked the other 2 were destroyed. It would seem there are a lot of very strong defensive software in these sites, one site I hit 5 in a row, each with a coherence of 60 and strength of 30. Again my Virus Strength is 30 and Coherence is 125. Ideas For Drone Improvement Repourpose Deep Space Scanner Probes |
Killua Zoldyeck
Jump Zero
3
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:14:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:
Yep, we're going through it again. The value you get from these sites should rival or be slightly above what you're getting today.
That's good to hear. Loot right now is worthless.
But there's a great concern from what you just said. The value should be slightly above of what we're getting today.
I'm assuming today means on Tranquillity. Well, please can you clarify it a bit further?
The TOTAL loot from a site will be slightly above of the total loot available to a single profession site on tranquillity? Or the PER PERSON loot from an Odyssey site will be slightly above of the total loot available to a single profession site on tranquillity?
That's very important. If I bring a friend with the new Odyssey exploration mechanics, we should both get at least rougly as much as a person can currently get on Tranquillity solo.
For example, if now in tranquillity I can solo explore a site and get 50mil isk worth of loot, in Odyssey if I bring a friend, on the same site, we should get ~50 mil isk each not total... Because in that way a single person would get HALF what he gets today on Tranquillity, netting a severe nerf on income.
Please clarify :) Thanks! |
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