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Gil Roland
Roma Aeterna
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:00:00 -
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Prices are running in Jita. Is it panic buying for Odyssey and the plex for training on the second character feature? |
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists Intergalactic Conservation Movement
10
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:18:00 -
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I see no changes to the mean income of players with this expansion, so i expect prices to fall back down later in the summer as people finish fleshing out some alts. Though the character bazaar should experience a fundamental shift. |
Obunagawe
17
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:42:00 -
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People quitting actively playing EVE due to the launcher debacle stockpiling PLEX as a hedge against inflation. |
Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:17:00 -
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CCP is just gona bring another plex discount...nobody fu*** with the plex price |
Stonkeep
Osmanli Empire
31
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Posted - 2013.05.22 19:44:00 -
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Sir SmashAlot wrote:I see no changes to the mean income of players with this expansion, so i expect prices to fall back down later in the summer as people finish fleshing out some alts. Though the character bazaar should experience a fundamental shift.
I agree with this. Current prices are just speculation. The new feature is not a big deal for most people.
The biggest effect of dual training feature will be on the character bazaar. It will become a true trading place. |
Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
216
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Posted - 2013.05.23 07:02:00 -
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Yeah, sell now, before prices plummet.
Also: there is a Dust related PLEX drive on now iirc, and don't forget the 1000s of PLEXes that Dr. E is dying to dump on the market. Happiness is a warm gun, mama. |
Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
275
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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:43:00 -
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I wouldn't call it "panic buying" so much as an attempt at speculation by a number of players.
Some people -think- that PLEX prices will rise because of the coming changes so they start buying. Other people notice that PLEX are moving faster than they were and want in on the action... then it just dogpiles and causes an overall rise of the price.
Once that initial momentum fades the prices will probably remain at around whatever they peak at for a short period of time before they start to drop. If the price drops significantly in a short period of time many of the people who bought PLEX as it rose fast (as a form of "investment") will try to sell. And so on and so forth.
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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
49
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Posted - 2013.05.23 17:07:00 -
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Gil Roland wrote:Prices are running in Jita. Is it panic buying for Odyssey and the plex for training on the second character feature?
I just posted a thread about it, I think plex prices will double or even triple within a year or two, supply and demand is completely out of hand, 6000 buy orders vs 1000 sell orders looking at eve central, I also got the feeling that a lot are hording ISK and as soon as inflation starts plex will be the save heaven, holding on to ISK is the worst thing to do OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
103
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Posted - 2013.05.23 23:33:00 -
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The speculation speculation seems to be in full swing. GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ˝ ...end transmission... |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
1112
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Posted - 2013.05.24 03:17:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Gil Roland wrote:Prices are running in Jita. Is it panic buying for Odyssey and the plex for training on the second character feature? I just posted a thread about it, I think plex prices will double or even triple within a year or two, supply and demand is completely out of hand, 6000 buy orders vs 1000 sell orders looking at eve central, I also got the feeling that a lot are hording ISK and as soon as inflation starts plex will be the save heaven, holding on to ISK is the worst thing to do
Oh noez, you should stock up at this current price. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
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ZAKURELL0 LINDA
Arkhon Industries Solarmark Coalition
8
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Posted - 2013.05.24 10:11:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Gil Roland wrote:Prices are running in Jita. Is it panic buying for Odyssey and the plex for training on the second character feature? I just posted a thread about it, I think plex prices will double or even triple within a year or two, supply and demand is completely out of hand, 6000 buy orders vs 1000 sell orders looking at eve central, I also got the feeling that a lot are hording ISK and as soon as inflation starts plex will be the save heaven, holding on to ISK is the worst thing to do a 10% increase would get the eve economist p1ssed, anything higher our isk value would fell through the floor......
and do u even understand economics? b/o and s/o ratio should never be 1:1, it doesnt make any sense at all. RIP Iron Lady |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
51
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Posted - 2013.05.24 13:09:00 -
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ZAKURELL0 LINDA wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Gil Roland wrote:Prices are running in Jita. Is it panic buying for Odyssey and the plex for training on the second character feature? I just posted a thread about it, I think plex prices will double or even triple within a year or two, supply and demand is completely out of hand, 6000 buy orders vs 1000 sell orders looking at eve central, I also got the feeling that a lot are hording ISK and as soon as inflation starts plex will be the save heaven, holding on to ISK is the worst thing to do a 10% increase would get the eve economist p1ssed, anything higher our isk value would fell through the floor...... and do u even understand economics? b/o and s/o ratio should never be 1:1, it doesnt make any sense at all.
i am controller and yes i do understand a lot of those things, what is your profession? OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
624
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Posted - 2013.05.24 17:25:00 -
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Every 6 months, SAME exact story, over and over and over and over.
Plex prices go up, CCP issues sale, plex prices come down, then a week later settle between old price and high price.
Just Deal with IT. |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
187
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Posted - 2013.05.24 18:00:00 -
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What Kara said.
Plus, with an expansion coming up, and dual char training, and power of two and and and and....the number of sell orders and buy orders having more to do with how many people are trading in plex than how many people are buying them for use. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
1062
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:02:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:ZAKURELL0 LINDA wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Gil Roland wrote:Prices are running in Jita. Is it panic buying for Odyssey and the plex for training on the second character feature? I just posted a thread about it, I think plex prices will double or even triple within a year or two, supply and demand is completely out of hand, 6000 buy orders vs 1000 sell orders looking at eve central, I also got the feeling that a lot are hording ISK and as soon as inflation starts plex will be the save heaven, holding on to ISK is the worst thing to do a 10% increase would get the eve economist p1ssed, anything higher our isk value would fell through the floor...... and do u even understand economics? b/o and s/o ratio should never be 1:1, it doesnt make any sense at all. i am controller and yes i do understand a lot of those things, what is your profession?
I am a professional tinoil hat salesman....ergo my profession is much more respectable then yours & better at future economics predictions then your tea leafing. An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
625
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:49:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Harry Forever wrote:ZAKURELL0 LINDA wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Gil Roland wrote:Prices are running in Jita. Is it panic buying for Odyssey and the plex for training on the second character feature? I just posted a thread about it, I think plex prices will double or even triple within a year or two, supply and demand is completely out of hand, 6000 buy orders vs 1000 sell orders looking at eve central, I also got the feeling that a lot are hording ISK and as soon as inflation starts plex will be the save heaven, holding on to ISK is the worst thing to do a 10% increase would get the eve economist p1ssed, anything higher our isk value would fell through the floor...... and do u even understand economics? b/o and s/o ratio should never be 1:1, it doesnt make any sense at all. i am controller and yes i do understand a lot of those things, what is your profession? I am a professional tinoil hat salesman....ergo my profession is much more respectable then yours & better at future economics predictions then your tea leafing.
LOL!
Panicked EvE player #1 reporting for duty!
Puts on "tinoil" hat |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
51
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:15:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Harry Forever wrote:ZAKURELL0 LINDA wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Gil Roland wrote:Prices are running in Jita. Is it panic buying for Odyssey and the plex for training on the second character feature? I just posted a thread about it, I think plex prices will double or even triple within a year or two, supply and demand is completely out of hand, 6000 buy orders vs 1000 sell orders looking at eve central, I also got the feeling that a lot are hording ISK and as soon as inflation starts plex will be the save heaven, holding on to ISK is the worst thing to do a 10% increase would get the eve economist p1ssed, anything higher our isk value would fell through the floor...... and do u even understand economics? b/o and s/o ratio should never be 1:1, it doesnt make any sense at all. i am controller and yes i do understand a lot of those things, what is your profession? I am a professional tinoil hat salesman....ergo my profession is much more respectable then yours & better at future economics predictions then your tea leafing.
sure you are selling that oil not drinking it? OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
51
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:23:00 -
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Kara Books wrote:Every 6 months, SAME exact story, over and over and over and over.
Plex prices go up, CCP issues sale, plex prices come down, then a week later settle between old price and high price.
Just Deal with IT.
I hardly believe CCP will sell a lot of PLEX for ISK because they do not get real money for that, so it would not make sense, however if plex go up in ISK value more poeple will buy them with real money to assure they can get more ISK in the game, therefore I believe in Plex going up
PLEX is only valuable for CCP if a real player buys it with real money, if they sell Plex themselfe they loose on every plex they sold, basically they would give away free subscription by doing that, however if a player buys plex from another player who bought it for real money then the subscription cash is not lost for CCP OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Arckaon
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:41:00 -
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they take plex from banned account to sell it on the market when plex have trouble |
Praxis Ginimic
315
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:35:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Kara Books wrote:Every 6 months, SAME exact story, over and over and over and over.
Plex prices go up, CCP issues sale, plex prices come down, then a week later settle between old price and high price.
Just Deal with IT. I hardly believe CCP will sell a lot of PLEX for ISK because they do not get real money for that, so it would not make sense, however if plex go up in ISK value more poeple will buy them with real money to assure they can get more ISK in the game, therefore I believe in Plex going up PLEX is only valuable for CCP if a real player buys it with real money, if they sell Plex themselfe they loose on every plex they sold, basically they would give away free subscription by doing that, however if a player buys plex from another player who bought it for real money then the subscription cash is not lost for CCP
Although your logic is sound CCP has in the past injected plex into the market to stabilize its price. They use old stocks from perma-banned accounts. They say they have access to way more than they could ever use for this purpose. I don't have a link handy so you can look it up for yourself.
The reason is that a true run on plex would crash the economy. Try to imagine how worthless isk would become. PVP-ers couldn't afford cruisers, indy's couldn't unload their stock, traders would be sitting on a pile of ****, even isk doublers would have to stop their operations.
Tinfoil hats aside this is not a run.
Edit: nice ninja post arck |
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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
188
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Posted - 2013.05.25 00:11:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:
I hardly believe CCP will sell a lot of PLEX for ISK because they do not get real money for that, so it would not make sense, however if plex go up in ISK value more poeple will buy them with real money to assure they can get more ISK in the game, therefore I believe in Plex going up
PLEX is only valuable for CCP if a real player buys it with real money, if they sell Plex themselfe they loose on every plex they sold, basically they would give away free subscription by doing that, however if a player buys plex from another player who bought it for real money then the subscription cash is not lost for CCP
You should really go watch those youtube presentations |
Adunh Slavy
851
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Posted - 2013.05.25 00:16:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote: !Clue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie9V2P5El0E |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
625
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Posted - 2013.05.25 00:26:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Kara Books wrote:Every 6 months, SAME exact story, over and over and over and over.
Plex prices go up, CCP issues sale, plex prices come down, then a week later settle between old price and high price.
Just Deal with IT. I hardly believe CCP will sell a lot of PLEX for ISK because they do not get real money for that, so it would not make sense, however if plex go up in ISK value more poeple will buy them with real money to assure they can get more ISK in the game, therefore I believe in Plex going up PLEX is only valuable for CCP if a real player buys it with real money, if they sell Plex themselfe they loose on every plex they sold, basically they would give away free subscription by doing that, however if a player buys plex from another player who bought it for real money then the subscription cash is not lost for CCP
If you can buy 2 ships today and 4 ships tomorow with 1 plex sold from market, When would you go and buy that plex from CCP? Perhaps when they have a SALE? |
Bloody Wench
375
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Posted - 2013.05.25 02:44:00 -
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My magic 8-Ball says:
PLEX interdiction by CCP at around the 650 mark. Support a Hi Resolution Texture Pack |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
51
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Posted - 2013.05.25 07:49:00 -
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Kara Books wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Kara Books wrote:Every 6 months, SAME exact story, over and over and over and over.
Plex prices go up, CCP issues sale, plex prices come down, then a week later settle between old price and high price.
Just Deal with IT. I hardly believe CCP will sell a lot of PLEX for ISK because they do not get real money for that, so it would not make sense, however if plex go up in ISK value more poeple will buy them with real money to assure they can get more ISK in the game, therefore I believe in Plex going up PLEX is only valuable for CCP if a real player buys it with real money, if they sell Plex themselfe they loose on every plex they sold, basically they would give away free subscription by doing that, however if a player buys plex from another player who bought it for real money then the subscription cash is not lost for CCP If you can buy 2 ships today and 4 ships tomorow with 1 plex sold from market, When would you go and buy that plex from CCP? Perhaps when they have a SALE?
if i would have billions of ISK I would invest all in Plex, thats the only thing i want to say OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
51
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Posted - 2013.05.25 07:59:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
I hardly believe CCP will sell a lot of PLEX for ISK because they do not get real money for that, so it would not make sense, however if plex go up in ISK value more poeple will buy them with real money to assure they can get more ISK in the game, therefore I believe in Plex going up
PLEX is only valuable for CCP if a real player buys it with real money, if they sell Plex themselfe they loose on every plex they sold, basically they would give away free subscription by doing that, however if a player buys plex from another player who bought it for real money then the subscription cash is not lost for CCP
You should really go watch those youtube presentations
I prefer listening to my own logic, people already told me what they mentioned in the video OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Britta Nolen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:51:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:
if i would have billions of ISK I would invest all in Plex, thats the only thing i want to say
And this is why you don't have billions of isk. Read the patch notes and notice that all Tier 1 BS are going up by about 40% in value come june 4. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
51
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Posted - 2013.05.25 11:09:00 -
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Britta Nolen wrote:Harry Forever wrote:
if i would have billions of ISK I would invest all in Plex, thats the only thing i want to say
And this is why you don't have billions of isk. Read the patch notes and notice that all Tier 1 BS are going up by about 40% in value come june 4.
I do not have a billion isk because I'm new to the game, and what everybody knows already I do not care about as an investement OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
1893
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Posted - 2013.05.25 19:01:00 -
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As Ive said before: When the mega-multi-boxing ice miners realize the amount of high sec ice cannot support their fleets, many will cancel a large fraction of their accounts. And they are all supported by PLEX. So do not count on a big price spike. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Rual Storge
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:35:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:As Ive said before: When the mega-multi-boxing ice miners realize the amount of high sec ice cannot support their fleets, many will cancel a large fraction of their accounts. And they are all supported by PLEX. So do not count on a big price spike.
And then they just move to a safe 0.0 dead end system to farm the ice anoms there, as ice belt systems will always be giving ice anoms |
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