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Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:55:00 -
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Can someone remind me why it was removed? I remember not being outraged or anything, but it was always a fun option to go gun mine something if I needed some minerals. -áKick ass soundtrack and Eve Pewpew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvc4KljpRGI |
Blod Bladelicker
Flashpoint Chaos Sexy Alliance
10
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:57:00 -
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I find myself to be quite annoyed about that change. As a PvE'er(Until my skillplan is done) I find myself just skipping on drone missions because the income is worse than crap. average bounties + no loot = not worth my time. |
Lexmana
956
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:58:00 -
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What you thought was a fun option was threatening a whole line of profession so they decided to remove the option and buff barges instead. |
Austin McLaren
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:58:00 -
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I also quite miss it, was nice to look at in the noctis. |
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts Hegemonous Pandorum
174
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:03:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:Can someone remind me why it was removed? I remember not being outraged or anything, but it was always a fun option to go gun mine something if I needed some minerals.
They removed it so that mineral prices would inflate, and so that high sec people could actually make isk since the alloys brought in a lot of low ends. The gun mine nerf was essentially the final nail in the coffin for null industry. The only thing I don't agree with is that they didn't add normal drop tables to the drones when they took the alloys out of them. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
139
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:06:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:What you thought was a fun option was threatening a whole line of profession so they decided to remove the option and buff barges instead.
But... That Profession is excruciatingly boring. o_O
Those who did it (normal Mining) back then didn't want to do anything else anyways, why ruin (gun) mining for all the other guys? There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:19:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:Can someone remind me why it was removed? I remember not being outraged or anything, but it was always a fun option to go gun mine something if I needed some minerals. Drone poo is still available, but CCP (in their infinite wisdom) tiericided drones into six types: Procurer, Retriever, Covetor, Skiff, Mackinaw, and Hulk.
On the plus side, they also added loot tables to drones. (Pro tip, salvage the elite drones.)
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
1880
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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:36:00 -
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It was removed, along with meta zero loot drops, so that minerals would supplied by miners. It was done to make the mining profession relevant to eve. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Brainless Bimbo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:44:00 -
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drone poo still is available in game, i come across it often enough. CCP-¦s New Motto: Shiny over Substance |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1333
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Posted - 2013.05.23 15:45:00 -
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In order to prevent minerals being worth less than dirt. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
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Danni stark
359
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Posted - 2013.05.23 15:49:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:Can someone remind me why it was removed? I remember not being outraged or anything, but it was always a fun option to go gun mine something if I needed some minerals.
you miss it because it made minerals cheap and it was removed so mining was less of a joke.
or, something. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
89
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Posted - 2013.05.23 16:01:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:Can someone remind me why it was removed? I remember not being outraged or anything, but it was always a fun option to go gun mine something if I needed some minerals. you miss it because it made minerals cheap and it was removed so mining was less of a joke. or, something.
I miss it because I made good isk from drones (alloys) except drone parts which were crap isk.
But I think I understand why they got rid of the alloys and don't have a problem with that, but they should have replaced them with more than just bounties. |
Khemax
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2013.05.23 16:05:00 -
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They did say they were going to give the drones some "normal" type loot tables but as ever it never happened.
Come on CCP sort this out oyu penalized a whole area of the map and never fixed it. |
Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
861
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Posted - 2013.05.23 16:09:00 -
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Khemax wrote:They did say they were going to give the drones some "normal" type loot tables but as ever it never happened.
Come on CCP sort this out oyu penalized a whole area of the map and never fixed it.
that area alone was very guilty and can remain punished until 2015 or something roleplayery
--- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |
floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.05.23 18:16:00 -
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should I be complaining that asteroids don't have bounties? |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1186
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Posted - 2013.05.23 18:27:00 -
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Super spikinator wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:Can someone remind me why it was removed? I remember not being outraged or anything, but it was always a fun option to go gun mine something if I needed some minerals. They removed it so that mineral prices would inflate, and so that high sec people could actually make isk since the alloys brought in a lot of low ends. The gun mine nerf was essentially the final nail in the coffin for null industry. The only thing I don't agree with is that they didn't add normal drop tables to the drones when they took the alloys out of them. Quite wrong, actually. They removed it because it harmed nullsec mining as a profession.
The fact that it made low ends go up in price was not, I think, intended. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.05.23 18:31:00 -
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It harmed all mining silly goon, they also nerfed mission refining shortly after so I'm pretty sure low ends were their target as well |
Shadow Lord77
Shadow Industries I
293
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Posted - 2013.05.23 18:33:00 -
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It is because you are crazy. Mining is more profitable now with Drone poo gone. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
1881
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Posted - 2013.05.23 18:38:00 -
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Drones still have salvage. Maybe the new "capital rigs" with their higher salvage requirements will drive up salvage prices.
Edit: When CCP said they were going to remove Drone droppings I suggested they do not remove them, just reduce them by a factor of 10 or some other large value. That would make gun mining provide far less minerals than normal mining, but still keep some value in drones, and keep some variety in the game. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2496
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Posted - 2013.05.23 18:39:00 -
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Much easier to remove drone drops than fix the botting that was the real problem.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1192
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:50:00 -
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floating in space wrote:It harmed all mining silly goon, they also nerfed mission r¦¦e¦¦f¦¦i¦¦n¦¦i¦¦n¦¦g¦¦ reprocessing shortly after so I'm pretty sure low ends were their target as well
Nullsec mining was explicitly stated as their target.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/carebearing-2.0-1/
Quote:To keep things balanced, the drones will stop dropping alloys, but instead they will have sizable bounties for any pilot who dares hunt them down. The bounties will keep Rogue Drones as a viable target but will also give the nullsec miners some love, making mining in nullsec a dangerous but valuable profession once more. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:07:00 -
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I never said it wasn't , thank you for you researching efforts though. I have made a note in my journal |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
747
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:09:00 -
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Best thing ever done to promote mining and make it worth training for.
Rats loot on the other hand was already negligible amounts and the nerf stick that hit mission loot is simply too much imho. Missions like Gone Bersek that could easily provide 4.5K M3 of loot now provide not even 1K, ok 4.5K was probably a bit too much but now it's plain ridiculous on top of mission rats/payouts lowered significantly.
But welp if it's for the greater good of god plex then, what else to say? *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Haulie Berry
757
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:10:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:Can someone remind me why it was removed? I remember not being outraged or anything, but it was always a fun option to go gun mine something if I needed some minerals.
Because mining with guns obsoleted mining with mining lasers, especially for null minerals. |
Haulie Berry
757
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:12:00 -
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Brainless Bimbo wrote:drone poo still is available in game, i come across it often enough when doing sites, hint, its now packaged in cans.
It's also dropped by the overseer drones in drone DED plexes. |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
253
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:26:00 -
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This reminds me, I need to mission run again.
Havent seen the new infested domi in V3
WHEN WILL YOU MAKE THAT THING FLYABLE, CCP?! |
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