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Niding
Peg-legged Goats Nihilists Social Club
35
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Posted - 2013.08.14 09:23:00 -
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I think those that are able to log in without any issues are just using the exebin file.
I havent given this thread any thought for weeks since I have fewer chars atm plus exebin works perfectly. As long as that ability remains, I think people will mostly let this thread stay "dead". |
Balder Verdandi
Czerka. WHY so Seri0Us
173
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Posted - 2013.08.15 23:34:00 -
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Niding wrote:I think those that are able to log in without any issues are just using the exebin file.
I havent given this thread any thought for weeks since I have fewer chars atm plus exebin works perfectly. As long as that ability remains, I think people will mostly let this thread stay "dead".
Still using the \bin\EXEFILE.EXE over the launcher ..... the only time I use it now is for patching, and it does a rather slow job of it at that.
Long live the failure of "Unified Inventory"! Player Owned Station fix dated back to 2006!
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seth Hendar
I love you miners
167
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Posted - 2013.08.19 14:39:00 -
[873] - Quote
+1 to the post above, it take AGES (like up to 5 minutes!!!!) to "validate" the files.
i7 2600k 4.2 ghz / 16 GB DDR 3 and eve on a SSD (crucial M4)
clearly not the worst comp down here right?
on my laptop, it's even worse, can take up to 10 minutes (said laptop is a MSI GE60).
obviously, i too use the launcher only when i'm forced to (i.e. updates) it never worked to log anyway, so exebin here i am |
Master Justasii
Viable and Useless Exports LLC
0
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Posted - 2013.08.28 03:37:00 -
[874] - Quote
Alrighty then time to jump in:
Caveats: 1) The Launcher only had a few burps when I first installed it, and has worked fine since then. 2) I am only playing one account. 3) I don't know anything really significant about coding and programming
Opinion: The launcher provides no benefit or purpose to the end user/client. (me) That is, nothing about the Launcher impresses me, catches my eye, makes me consider clicking or checking anything out that is on the Launcher page. For me, it is a complete waste of time. This is to say nothing of the intent of the Launcher, SSO, streamlining client control or other functions that do not slap me right in the face. I am sure there are reasons and purposes behind the Launcher that are not immediately available to me. That being said, at the end of the day, the Launcher is an annoying waste of time and clicks. If there was a way to move the said 'backround' purposes of the Launcher to something else, I would be all for it.
Now I understand that much effort and thought has been put into the launcher, even with the issues. Sometimes it happens. I see a lot of people hating on CCP in here. Well, it's a free market enterprise and if you really feel strongly about the way CCP is doing things, stop playing EVE. There are many other things to do. I quite enjoy EVE and find the most recent release very enjoyable (minus the launcher). So I will say to CCP, hey I like your game you made, it was probably hard to make. Try to fix/remove the launcher, I would like that. But since I don't actually code (AND MOST OF THE WHINERS IN HERE DON'T EITHER), I can't really contribute usefully. But nonetheless, take this post as encouragement to continue with the launcher project, since I can currently ignore it with the /bin/ exe shortcut anyways. But please leave that function till the bugs are work out, m-kay! Thanks.
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Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
404
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Posted - 2013.08.28 06:35:00 -
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Master Justasii wrote:The launcher provides no benefit or purpose to the end user/client. (me) (...) That being said, at the end of the day, the Launcher is an annoying waste of time and clicks. If there was a way to move the said 'backround' purposes of the Launcher to something else, I would be all for it. I agree a lot with this. Sadly it seems it's a part of the intended design. I'm pretty much all-for the old launcher, which did what I wanted of a launcher, and I could ignore all that was not. If this "new" "SSO" "launcher" did not feel like an intrusive, deadweight prototype bloated with neat catchphrases I would have nothing against it either. Right now I don't have to use it for anything but patching, but I do dread the next time CCP Atropos releases anything with regard to the launcher.
Quote:I see a lot of people hating on CCP in here. Well, it's a free market enterprise and if you really feel strongly about the way CCP is doing things, stop playing EVE. There are many other things to do. I quite enjoy EVE and find the most recent release very enjoyable (minus the launcher) I just wanted to chip in with this quote of myself, from on this page:
Alphea Abbra wrote:I had hoped [CCP Atropos]'d actually continue our discourse back from page 40-42, but after your replies and subsequent silence I am not really interested anymore. I hope you're happy to know that I enjoy the Oddysey expansion, and if it wasn't for your launcher I would enjoy it with 3 accounts, instead of the current 1.
Maybe you should check in on e.g. Ytterbium, Fozzie and Rise to see how they react to negative feedback. You could learn something, maybe to not say you have learned something, or have become humbler, or have heard our voices, or will improve, or will ... It's not what you say; it's what you do. |
Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
413
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Posted - 2013.09.11 07:43:00 -
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Last post in here from CCP Atropos was 2013.07.22. That is now 51 days ago. I could, had I wanted to, made a 3-week trial and PLEXed it all the while CCP Atropos did nothing.
Again, I am not posting here because I expect changes because of it, but because if CCP at some future point wants to know what happened, they can at least inform themselves. |
Balder Verdandi
Czerka. WHY so Seri0Us
177
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Posted - 2013.09.11 13:10:00 -
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Alphea Abbra wrote:Last post in here from CCP Atropos was 2013.07.22. That is now 51 days ago. I could, had I wanted to, made a 3-week trial and PLEXed it all the while CCP Atropos did nothing.
Again, I am not posting here because I expect changes because of it, but because if CCP at some future point wants to know what happened, they can at least inform themselves.
51 days.
Sadly, this speaks volumes about the lack of dedication to resolve issues some folks seem to be having. Long live the failure of "Unified Inventory"! Player Owned Station fix dated back to 2006!
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Jysella Halcyon
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
48
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Posted - 2013.09.14 19:53:00 -
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Balder Verdandi wrote:Alphea Abbra wrote:Last post in here from CCP Atropos was 2013.07.22. That is now 51 days ago. I could, had I wanted to, made a 3-week trial and PLEXed it all the while CCP Atropos did nothing.
Again, I am not posting here because I expect changes because of it, but because if CCP at some future point wants to know what happened, they can at least inform themselves. 51 days. Sadly, this speaks volumes about the lack of dedication to resolve issues some folks seem to be having. Launcher is still terrible user experience and pointless bloat that removes/impairs basic functionality.
Atropos is still pretending we don't exist and that the issue is solved.
So much for "we will listen", eh? |
Balder Verdandi
Czerka. WHY so Seri0Us
180
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Posted - 2013.09.14 20:01:00 -
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Jysella Halcyon wrote:Balder Verdandi wrote:Alphea Abbra wrote:Last post in here from CCP Atropos was 2013.07.22. That is now 51 days ago. I could, had I wanted to, made a 3-week trial and PLEXed it all the while CCP Atropos did nothing.
Again, I am not posting here because I expect changes because of it, but because if CCP at some future point wants to know what happened, they can at least inform themselves. 51 days. Sadly, this speaks volumes about the lack of dedication to resolve issues some folks seem to be having. Launcher is still terrible user experience and pointless bloat that removes/impairs basic functionality. Atropos is still pretending we don't exist and that the issue is solved. So much for "we will listen", eh?
Working As Intended Gäó
Long live the failure of "Unified Inventory"! Player Owned Station fix dated back to 2006!
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My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2013.09.16 12:14:00 -
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From patching last week:
Patched 4 times. Launcher failed. Tried patching through exe.exe - failed. Tried running repair tool - failed. Uninstalled eve and downloaded new yesterday. All worked fine - till todays update. Laucher update failed, trying to patch via exe.exe - failed, repair tool - failed.
As my 2 gb download volume for this month (wireless mobile) is already used up - i cannot try patching further from here, and i-¦m sure i will have to unistall eve (and download) again from home where i have unlimited volume.
Beside of that a question - is running the "uninstall eve" not enough? Do i have to manually erase other files (deleting the whole ccp folder comes to my mind)?
Somehow i think the broken launcher still remains "somewhere", even after uninstalling.
Anyway this is my last try - no use in re-installing eve every day.
Fake edit: my machine at home patches beautifully every time. |
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3dward Scissorhands
5
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Posted - 2013.09.18 13:25:00 -
[881] - Quote
full dl in progress, sems like the only workaound |
Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
671
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Posted - 2013.09.25 22:05:00 -
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did CCP Atropos leave ccp?
just wondering as the launcher is still broken by design, no mention or blogs on how it will be fixed to work for mulitboxers looking for fast access to there not single signed on accounts. as well as for people with multiple installs not wanting to leave an EXTRA program running just to swap to alts.
OMG when can i get a pic here
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Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
446
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Posted - 2013.10.03 14:56:00 -
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Smoking Blunts wrote:did CCP Atropos leave ccp?
just wondering as the launcher is still broken by design, no mention or blogs on how it will be fixed to work for mulitboxers looking for fast access to there not single signed on accounts. as well as for people with multiple installs not wanting to leave an EXTRA program running just to swap to alts. Probably not, CCP Atropos didn't post much before either. If you take a look, Atropos last posted in late August.
I didn't think this thread would stay stickied this far though. I guess CCP has realised that there is a good thing in having a single place where complaints can be ignored, instead of letting users complain where people might listen. |
3dward Scissorhands
6
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Posted - 2013.10.08 05:17:00 -
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I have a petition open for about a month now without any resolution. I am awaiting the next patch which i think its in a few hours, hope that it works. CCP wants me to install a packet sniffer and send them the file for there review to identify the problem. But wait, isnt the launcher design for this purpose? As i recall, the launcher was introduced as a way to have a conecction pipe when doing the update so ccp staff is able to compile a list of issues thru that launcher, but i guess after odessey it all went to hell. At the moment the only resolution so far is the full client download. |
Niding
Peg-legged Goats Nihilists Social Club
38
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Posted - 2013.10.20 00:08:00 -
[885] - Quote
Since CCP had an official stream session today I had to look how this thread is doing.
Well, Exefile is still working, so no real damage has happened for those that are actually able to patch and play.
Hopefully the Exefile remains as a viable way of starting the game for the forseeable future. |
Eligos Quemada
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
12
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:31:00 -
[886] - Quote
Is the launcher written in .NET? You guys need an Application.DoEvents() call in your innermost loops (DL&Patch progress) for patches so you don't have to mouseover the launcher to force a GUI update or something, that's a pretty goofy error to have. |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
388
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:41:00 -
[887] - Quote
Eligos Quemada wrote:Is the launcher written in .NET? You guys need an Application.DoEvents() call in your innermost loops (DL&Patch progress) for patches so you don't have to mouseover the launcher to force a GUI update or something, that's a pretty goofy error to have. No it isn't, but I have also just started noticing this behaviour myself. EVE Launcher - Team Special Circumstances |
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Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
673
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:45:00 -
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CCP Atropos isn't it about time that you admit the whole new launcher thing has been a badly conceived project from its start to now.
how many lost play hours down to bugs after bugs do we have to put up with until you get your **** together and admit that the old patcher/launcher worked better than this current farce and roll back to it
it dosnt offer basic support to multiboxers and multi install users.
it randomly breaks the ability to load the game(today is a decent example of that)
please get your **** together, its starting to get annoying that every dam patch we have to find new ways to get round your PITA pointless software bloat OMG when can i get a pic here
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Balder Verdandi
Czerka. WHY so Seri0Us
189
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Posted - 2013.11.20 05:49:00 -
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You know what .....
STILL using the /bin/exefile because you guessed it ............. the launcher is still a hot mess!
Long live the failure of "Unified Inventory"! Player Owned Station fix dated back to 2006!
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Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
455
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Posted - 2013.12.03 09:56:00 -
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So CCP Atropos, welcome back to the realm of the non-working. Do you need & desire a short recap of what happened while you were gone?
The long recap is to re-read the thread since IIRC around page 30, where you stopped responding. The short one is: The launcher is still making it a hassle to log in, and limits my capabilities of concurrent logins to one per machine I own. Furthermore, the only improvement I have heard about is the improvements you stated were done to your patching systems, something I expect could also have been done to the old launcher. The rest, as you guessed, has been delegated to the AWESOME (soon) team in CCP.
So, a look backwards: It sucked. A look at the current: It still sucks. A look at the future: We have no reason to think it changes.
Do you care to convince me otherwise? |
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Kabaos
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:39:00 -
[891] - Quote
what the crap now with Launcher , Repair , nothing not help me!!! Work on this CCP!
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AngelFood
20
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Posted - 2014.02.05 08:25:00 -
[892] - Quote
Another useless outdated thread this is stuck not sticky
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Drenoma Ciemnos
Astral Strategic Industries
0
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:57:00 -
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i cant patch my launcher, for 3 days now.. im a new player and i think the game is good, but if there is no support like this, i think i would cancel my subscription. last resort is i do a full reinstall, and if that doesnt work im out. good thing i havent invested much yet into this game |
Opabinia Chelien
BMB-International
0
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Posted - 2014.02.07 23:30:00 -
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I have been having launcher issues myself. Only since a couple of weeks. I filed a bug report, and am hoping for a usable explanation/solution. The repair tool also failed. So did an uninstall and a subsequent reinstall + launch + repair.
The trick to start the game bypassing the launcher seems to allow me to play the game - for now. But I realize this is at best a temporary fix. If this issue persists, I may need to get my space RPG fix somewhere else in the future. |
TwelveCrap Wood
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:08:00 -
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honestly - this looks like a windows permissions issue. UAC fires off every time repair tool is used.
Two solutions come to mind;
1. relocate game install to another folder not protected by UAC
2. fix the patch launcher to properly execute a UAC request. |
Bill Lane
The Konvergent League Sev3rance
49
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:39:00 -
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Having problems now too, first time. Stuck at 0.0% validating client. Worked fine yesterday, and I haven't added any new programs....
Edit: Have run the repair tool twice. Both times it said repair was successful. Edit2: Can run the game fine from the bin/exefile. http://www.militarygamers.com/ |
Pestily
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:20:00 -
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I have launcher problems and need some help...
Todays patch will not download fully gets to 2of 4 25% then shoots to 3of4 100% and stays there.
I have tried to run from bin/exe but just get black screen.
Uninstalled completely and re installed eve as a new install the ran launcher and got the same STUCK at 3of4 100%
still black screen with bin/exe and the repair toll says sucessful...
It was all good until todays patch
HELP PLEASE !! |
Opabinia Chelien
BMB-International
0
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Posted - 2014.02.13 18:52:00 -
[898] - Quote
I believe I found the solution to my own launcher problem, and the cause was the ZoneAlarm firewall/virusscanner. By changing a setting in the webscanner options the Launcher works as before - I think. I'll post a link to the forum post that helped me and I hope it will help some of you who are still having problems (and who might also be using ZoneAlarm).
https://www.zonealarm.com/forums/showthread.php/80510-Resolved-Eve-Online-game-cannot-download-updates |
Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
720
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Posted - 2014.02.21 10:31:00 -
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Smoking Blunts wrote:CCP Atropos isn't it about time that you admit the whole new launcher thing has been a badly conceived project from its start to now.
how many lost play hours down to bugs after bugs do we have to put up with until you get your **** together and admit that the old patcher/launcher worked better than this current farce and roll back to it
it dosnt offer basic support to multiboxers and multi install users.
it randomly breaks the ability to load the game(today is a decent example of that)
please get your **** together, its starting to get annoying that every dam patch we have to find new ways to get round your PITA pointless software bloat
so CCP Atropos why is the launcher still ***** after all this time?
or have you been fired yet?
OMG when can i get a pic here
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Kaiser Cole
Not Even Light
2
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Posted - 2014.02.23 08:10:00 -
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Pestily wrote:I have launcher problems and need some help...
Todays patch will not download fully gets to 2of 4 25% then shoots to 3of4 100% and stays there.
I have tried to run from bin/exe but just get black screen.
Uninstalled completely and re installed eve as a new install the ran launcher and got the same STUCK at 3of4 100%
still black screen with bin/exe and the repair toll says sucessful...
It was all good until todays patch
HELP PLEASE !!
Didn't try the reinstall solution but i have the exact same problem :
Launcher always resume patching from 25% to downloading files , then goes to step 3 and get stuck at 100% , frozen as a dead squirel in snow.
Tried to launch the updater alone but it just made a new fresh patch from version 0 to 724022 (about 6gb) and get stuck at phase 3 100% , frozen as a dead frog caught in iceberg......
Boring. Just reactivated my account to see that , not a good way to keep me back for long....
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