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CovertFox
Prometheus Venture Corp.
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:38:00 -
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So getting back into the missions I finally got my standings back into the 5s to start l4s, long time ago Domis were notorious for solo/afking L4 missions. Just fill your slots with cap rechargers and armor reps and you are good. So went onto eve clinic and put the specific hardeners for this one L4 mission that wasnt really meant to fight but you had the option and there was a nice bounty to it (Brutor tribe. Recon 1 of 3). after about 30 seconds my beloved space potato was but an explosion and I was sad. I had horridly underestimated it and Im wondering if the Domi is the way to go. I have flown a rattlesnake before but got rid of it before I left. Never had issues with tanking but I just dont know now anymore. What could of tanked that? My domi had LARIIx2 with 3 specific hardeners(2xEm, 1xTherm) . 2 CCCs and a nano pump. I want to be able to solo those 4s without being ready to warp out as soon as I start taking damage. |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:45:00 -
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More dps. Kill timed waves before they stack. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
CovertFox
Prometheus Venture Corp.
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:48:00 -
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the waves came in 30-60 seconds and my drone skills only allow t2 lights, t1 heavies and t1 sentries. and t1 hybrids. Armor didnt hold up long at all when I had to warp back in |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1907
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:59:00 -
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CovertFox wrote:the waves came in 30-60 seconds and my drone skills only allow t2 lights, t1 heavies and t1 sentries. and t1 hybrids. Armor didnt hold up long at all when I had to warp back in
This simply means you're trying to do more than your skills allow. You should probably be doing lvl 3 missions for a while longer while skilling up drones, tanking and cap skills.
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CovertFox
Prometheus Venture Corp.
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Posted - 2013.05.24 16:12:00 -
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3 mill sp in drones alone all basic skills at V Im almost at 13 mill sp and I still am not able to solo l4s?! |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.05.24 16:49:00 -
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Of course you can solo L4s. As you pointed out, you could have completed this one easily but chose not to.
Properly killing Recon 1 gets quite comfortable at ~900 DPS. The trick is to nuke every wave as it appears and have them all dead or near dead before the next wave arrives. Sitting still with T1 sentries (get T2s as soon as humanly possible btw) is going to get you killed; T2s will likely get the job done. Until then, blitz it -- or at least be more careful and sit on the gate while trying to kill everything. |
Carek Talen
Another Corp.
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Posted - 2013.05.24 16:52:00 -
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You are ok for most missions but this is 'special', try a MJD + long range sentries. |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.24 16:59:00 -
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get MJD, get tech 2 sentries.
I can do this in a myrmidon with sentries though it's not comfortable by any means.
With a domi and a MJD it should be close to afkable. |
CovertFox
Prometheus Venture Corp.
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Posted - 2013.05.24 17:06:00 -
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So not all L4s are this tragic? I just got greedy with that bounty? |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.05.24 17:10:00 -
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It's pretty unusual in the amount of damage that it can throw. It's not unique, but it is unusual. Read mission reports and you should be fine. |
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CovertFox
Prometheus Venture Corp.
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Posted - 2013.05.24 17:21:00 -
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What is a good website to read up on more info on specific missions that isnt from 3 years ago? |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
229
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Posted - 2013.05.24 17:22:00 -
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It's pretty well-known as a new player trap. Those 1.1mil+ bounty battleships plus elite interceptor (scram+web) rats are pretty nasty if you don't know how to deal with them. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2013.05.24 17:38:00 -
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CovertFox wrote:What is a good website to read up on more info on specific missions that isnt from 3 years ago?
Eve-survival is still the gold standard as far as I know. It frankly doesn't matter if the information is three years old; missions haven't really changed in that time. |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
1114
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Posted - 2013.05.24 18:55:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:CovertFox wrote:What is a good website to read up on more info on specific missions that isnt from 3 years ago? Eve-survival is still the gold standard as far as I know. It frankly doesn't matter if the information is three years old; missions haven't really changed in that time.
It lacks some of the newer and rarer storylines, like Unauthorized Mining, some roid, aggro info and exact rat types are out of date. But most of what matters in common missions are still the same.
After Odyssey removes gun dmg bonus, Domi will be even more anemic in dps than it is now. With no t2 sentries, only t2 in lights, and only 3 mil SP into drones, it's not a big waste yet. At this point, you may as well just ditch drones and go for a nice AC or laserboat.
Consider a navy geddon. It fields a full set of 5 sentries, along with extra room for lights/meds, to augment guns. That drone sp isn't wasted. 1.1k dps at ~65km, 1.3k at ~30km. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
CovertFox
Prometheus Venture Corp.
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:15:00 -
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I am currently training lasers! I have been a gallente/caldari pilot for so long that the whole drone thing has bored me to death though I recognize their uses/effectiveness in missions/everything and how I will never be rid of them. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1385
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:56:00 -
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Considering Recon is designed to be a blast through with a fast frig not fight mission...
When I was lower SP running LVL 4's in a domi, I never tried to actually do Recon as a combat mission. Much much later with excellent skills I can handle it easily in a sentry domi. |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:01:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Considering Recon is designed to be a blast through with a fast frig not fight mission...
When I was lower SP running LVL 4's in a domi, I never tried to actually do Recon as a combat mission. Much much later with excellent skills I can handle it easily in a sentry domi.
this is very true but the bounties are very tasty if you can do it in good time |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1385
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:15:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Derath Ellecon wrote:Considering Recon is designed to be a blast through with a fast frig not fight mission...
When I was lower SP running LVL 4's in a domi, I never tried to actually do Recon as a combat mission. Much much later with excellent skills I can handle it easily in a sentry domi. this is very true but the bounties are very tasty if you can do it in good time
Didn't say the bounties aren't great. But as a low SP player it's not your run of the mill combat LVL 4. |
CovertFox
Prometheus Venture Corp.
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:10:00 -
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I was contemplating buying a rattlesnake again and just over tanking it with sentries/heavies. Good Idea? |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
1114
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:19:00 -
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CovertFox wrote:I was contemplating buying a rattlesnake again and just over tanking it with sentries/heavies. Good Idea?
Pirate BS is getting rebalanced, and they haven't said how yet. Then again, Rattler is already underpriced for a pirate BS, can't imagine price dropping further. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
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CovertFox
Prometheus Venture Corp.
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:44:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:CovertFox wrote:I was contemplating buying a rattlesnake again and just over tanking it with sentries/heavies. Good Idea? Pirate BS is getting rebalanced, and they haven't said how yet. Then again, Rattler is already underpriced for a pirate BS, can't imagine price dropping further. think it would be a bad idea? Ive flown it before and had great success with it in l4s just not solo. and ive got V / IV shield tanking |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
1114
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:06:00 -
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CovertFox wrote:sabre906 wrote:CovertFox wrote:I was contemplating buying a rattlesnake again and just over tanking it with sentries/heavies. Good Idea? Pirate BS is getting rebalanced, and they haven't said how yet. Then again, Rattler is already underpriced for a pirate BS, can't imagine price dropping further. think it would be a bad idea? Ive flown it before and had great success with it in l4s just not solo. and ive got V / IV shield tanking
You don't know how they're going to change it. CCP has done weird stuff to ships before. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1499
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:06:00 -
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CovertFox wrote:sabre906 wrote:CovertFox wrote:I was contemplating buying a rattlesnake again and just over tanking it with sentries/heavies. Good Idea? Pirate BS is getting rebalanced, and they haven't said how yet. Then again, Rattler is already underpriced for a pirate BS, can't imagine price dropping further. think it would be a bad idea? Ive flown it before and had great success with it in l4s just not solo. and ive got V / IV shield tanking
Cruise missiles are getting a buff, but your main damage will still be from drones. You'd still want to get yourself into T2 sentries, asap. At that point, you might as well stick to the dominix because the new bonuses will make it pretty great. If you have the time, jump on the test server and try stuff out, much cheaper than doing it on the live server.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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CMD Ishikawa
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.25 03:13:00 -
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Rattlesnake is still an awesome ship for missions and you can buy one now that they are cheap.
T2 Sentries are a must, and the buff coming to cruise missiles will help even more.
Careful with the changes in drone aggro from NPCs, is diferent from the last time you played. |
Charlie Jacobson
114
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Posted - 2013.05.25 05:42:00 -
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T2 Sentries. Blap all the things. MJD trick helps with tank, but frankly I rarely need it anymore with the amazing damage that sentries can do. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
237
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:56:00 -
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CovertFox wrote: (Brutor tribe. Recon 1 of 3).3 specific hardeners(2xEm, 1xTherm) .
those may have been the wrong hardeners. I would assume it would be against angels, but it could have been against bloods or sanshas if you were in different space.
but anyways I used to afk the guristas version in an ishtar, launch light drones go afk, come back to a bunch of sec status gains.
You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Cage Man
215
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:43:00 -
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RS is a pretty awesome machine and I doubt the nerf bat will hurt it too much in its primary weapons system, ie drones. Not sure if you know about the new drone damage mods, but 3 x Drone damage amplifiers with even T1 sentries are pretty awesome. I active tank my RS so I can squeez some extra DPS our of toprs yep torps. Javelins do as much damage a cruise, but you get the option to switch to fury torps when stuff is close and their volley damage makes short work of any close orbiting BS. Not that you need it as the sentries can do decent dps on their own. Oh PLEASE!!! CCP Fozzie Can I haz a Navy moa....... |
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