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MunnyRabbit
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.25 17:30:00 -
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Currently only have 2 characters atm but looking to move up to 3 and start a 2 mack / orca operation. Thinking about all of this i also decided it may be a good idea to set up a POS and start building stuff / researching BPO's. So i had a couple of questions.
I'm in the first stages of researching this so bear with me if you will.
1.Are there any drawbacks to putting a POS in HS? 2. Can it be attacked if the owner of the remains in a neutral corp. 3. Can the POS be stolen if it runs out of fuel? 4. I really hate grinding standings. Can a POS give a perfect refine or am i better off doing it at a station i gain standings at? 5. Does size matter other than EHP? EX. Needing a large POS to build battleships, BCs ect...
That's just a few questions. I'm not looking for any huge operation as of yet. The main thing i would like however would be research, manu and refining to start off. I'd place the POS in a system with a station so i could house most of my goods there.
Any advice or answers are greatly appreciated. |
Markus Navarro
Osmon Integrated Robotics
34
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Posted - 2013.05.25 17:40:00 -
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In order
1. Need to fuel it starbase charters, and if you are in a good system it may be wardecked since free spots are rare 2. You can't. You need to be in a player corp to anchor a POS 3. THe POS probably not, unless you leave it unanchored. Unsure about the mods 4. Station for refines. POS are terrible at refining 5. Size give powergrid/CPU. You may need the bigger one if you want to run more than 3 labs and such.
Also, for a POS you want to have a station where you have an office, so you can park your BPO there instead of in the POS. Safer
I sell drones and drones accessories. |
Vanchelon
Aurum Aquila
8
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Posted - 2013.05.25 17:43:00 -
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1. Nope, but you can't build capital ships, other than freighters, at a high sec POS.
2. Not entirely sure what you mean, but you need to be in a player corp to put up a POS in the first place, you can't be in an NPC corp and put up a POS. You can be wardecced and your POS can be attacked that way. It is pretty rare that people will go after your POS though, unless its either in a really great spot (e.g, 1-2j from Jita or another hub) or poorly defended with lots of valuable POS modules attached. Taking on a defended POS in high sec is a tedious work of frustration, most people will never bother.
3. Your tower can't be stolen. As it is, it will remain anchored (and offline if out of fuel) indefinitely as long as the corporation exists (Never tested that bit, but I would imagine so). Same goes if you have POS modules, labs etc, anchored at a POS that runs out of fuel and goes offline. For any non-corp player to remove any modules, the control tower must be destroyed.
4. As for refining I'll have to defer to someone else as I don't have personal experience refining at a POS, but if I recall correctly it's very ineffective to refine at a POS. You will need sufficient corp->faction standings to put up a POS in high sec in the first place however. A player-corp to faction standing of 5 for 0.5 sec, 6 for 0.6 etc.
5. Larger control towers give you more CPU and Power to online more modules. A small POS will be sufficient for ~3 characters for doing invention. If you want to build T2 components as well as invention, I'd suggest a medium. Note that you don't want to build tech 2 >ships< at a POS (10% more materials cost), but building T2 >components< is quite useful due to +25% production bonus. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
342
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Posted - 2013.05.25 17:55:00 -
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MunnyRabbit wrote:I really hate grinding standings. Can a POS give a perfect refine or am i better off doing it at a station i gain standings at?
POS refinery maxes out at 75% efficiency.
Quote:5. Does size matter other than EHP? EX. Needing a large POS to build battleships, BCs ect...
Medium uses twice the fuel of the small. Large uses twice the fuel of the medium. |
MunnyRabbit
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.05.25 18:15:00 -
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Hmm the refining thing was the man pull in the first place right now. Manufacturing was kinda just a plus. Seems atm it wouldn't really be worth getting a POS set up with my current game plan.
Thanks for all the information guys and gals |
Lyza Kimbo
Cat Scratch Fever
10
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Posted - 2013.05.25 18:16:00 -
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MunnyRabbit wrote:Currently only have 2 characters atm but looking to move up to 3 and start a 2 mack / orca operation. Thinking about all of this i also decided it may be a good idea to set up a POS and start building stuff / researching BPO's. So i had a couple of questions.
I'm in the first stages of researching this so bear with me if you will.
1.Are there any drawbacks to putting a POS in HS? 2. Can it be attacked if the owner of the remains in a neutral corp. 3. Can the POS be stolen if it runs out of fuel? 4. I really hate grinding standings. Can a POS give a perfect refine or am i better off doing it at a station i gain standings at? 5. Does size matter other than EHP? EX. Needing a large POS to build battleships, BCs ect...
That's just a few questions. I'm not looking for any huge operation as of yet. The main thing i would like however would be research, manu and refining to start off. I'd place the POS in a system with a station so i could house most of my goods there.
Any advice or answers are greatly appreciated.
This is an incredibly bad time to be putting up a new POS in hi-sec. I had one I just took down about two weeks ago, because of the impending changes to Ice .
Fuel blocks are about to get more expensive, although estimates vary as far as how much more expensive. This will be happening because Ice is about to become a lot more scarce than it is now. My advice would be to wait and accumulate your resources for a couple months, when you have like 60 days worth of fuel ready and all the needed standings.
But YMMV. Read the link above and decide for yourself.
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
145
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Posted - 2013.05.25 19:30:00 -
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I took exactly the same path you are considering, so let me give you a little advice:
(1) Start with a small POS, it's a lot cheaper to fuel it while you're getting the hang of things (2) Don't bother with defences. If you get wardecced, you have enough time to take it down anyway (3) Put your POS in a quiet system. Make sure it's in the same region as the market you're going to sell to. (4) Refining not a good idea at a HS POS. In fact, I'm not sure you can even anchor one. (5) Standings are just for putting it up. Once it's up, they don't matter. (6) Don't bother building BS or stuff like that. Profits are slim to zero. (7) So from (6) study your market to work out what you can make a profit with. Spreadsheet useful :).
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
1858
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:52:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:(4) Refining not a good idea at a HS POS. In fact, I'm not sure you can even anchor one. You can't (requires 0.3 security or lower). |
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