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Trevedian
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Posted - 2005.10.27 18:14:00 -
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Currently there are alliances that have several wars with other alliances and corps simultaniously. (For Example F-E is currently at war with SA, The 5, and Some Pencil Pushers Corp or somethin')
In hub systems like Jita etc., where much of the fighting takes place, there can be 100-300 people in local and using "Show Info" for everyone in system is time-consuming and not really feasible.
I would like to suggest that a "Red Dot" appear on all the war targets in local similiar to the "Green Dot" which appears when a member of your buddylist is in local.
Please don't flame me claiming that "War is War, and it shouldn't be easy". I am open to any suggestions people might have about how to solve this issue.
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2005.10.27 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 27/10/2005 18:23:13 Agreed.
It's a pain in the arse to get a count of enemies in the more widely populated systems.
It's already possible to use the buddy system effectively for this kind of thing, but anyone who has like 1500+ people in their address book will tell you what a pain in the arse it is to remove the ones you dont need when your done. And adding 100+ is no picnic either
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Ni'ra
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Posted - 2005.10.27 18:20:00 -
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I think not knowning who everyone in local is makes wars fun, it keeps you on your toes and aware at all times. Let up for even a second and POOF! you're dead...
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.10.27 18:23:00 -
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No.
Remove war target's from local completely imo. Like in 0.0, nobody should be shown on local until they speak. --------
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.10.27 18:27:00 -
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Someone dosn't get into 0.0 much if they think it's like that in 0.0, currently.
However.
If instas cause lag, so do buddy lists. If instas must be fixed, so must buddy lists. So while I don't LIKE the suggestion...
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Speratica
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Posted - 2005.10.27 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Speratica on 27/10/2005 18:29:26 Edit: sorry... cleared all my temp files and it logged me in as an alt my girlfriend created...
I just add the enemies to my address book. My corp members aren't in it so if a green dot shows up in local... i know who it is. Of course, it takes a bit of recon to figure out who is in what corp and such, but the end result works great for me.
Plus, if they hide in a station and log, I can write down where and come back when they log back in cause I'll be notified when they do.
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2005.10.27 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Goberth Ludwig on 27/10/2005 18:30:19 Signed.
And btw down with empire wars, too much abuse/lameness/greif on those (yes, I'm the guy who always get concordokkend).
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2005.10.27 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell Someone dosn't get into 0.0 much if they think it's like that in 0.0, currently.
No he means that local SHOULD be secret for war targets AND for 0.0 space. Not thats its already like that now.
----------------------------------------------- Admiral of King Frieza's Super Saiyan fleet.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.10.27 18:44:00 -
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errh didnt the devs say that local was NOT supposed to be a scouting tool? They were gonna nerf it so that no one showed up unless they spoke but realized that it would have people up in arms. I doubt they would add more tools to local to help scouting.
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Pestillence
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Posted - 2005.10.27 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Trevedian
Please don't flame me claiming that "War is War, and it shouldn't be easy". I am open to any suggestions people might have about how to solve this issue.
There is no issue.
You are simply lazy.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.10.27 19:04:00 -
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I'd be happy with the scanner not showing Neutrals anymore tbh. Oh, and being less bugged would be good aswell, because friendlies showing up as wartargets is a really annoying feature.
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2005.10.27 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Trevedian on 27/10/2005 19:14:05
Originally by: The Enslaver No.
Remove war target's from local completely imo. Like in 0.0, nobody should be shown on local until they speak.
Errr huh? Perhaps the "immediate" and "delayed" on your chats needs changed...
0.0 would be scarry place if no one appeared in local unless they spoke. All you might ever see are some Burn Eden smackin'.
Calling someone lazy because they don't wanna use "Show Info" on 200 people and lag their comp to death seems rather silly, notice its from someone I'm currently at war with... And Pestilence, your prolly not an experienced enough player to comprehend the issue here, but I thank you for your input.
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.10.27 19:33:00 -
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signed
Killboard.co.uk |
Ardor
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Posted - 2005.10.27 19:55:00 -
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I support this idea. I suppose most 'buddy' lists are enemy lists. I have no idea if this would increase serverload too much, though.
Another thing is blocked people should not show the same way as 'buddies'. A different color would be nice.
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.10.27 19:59:00 -
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Signed.
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.10.27 19:59:00 -
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Signed.
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
Sovereignty 2.0 |
Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.10.27 20:01:00 -
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Thats the beauty of busy systems, tbh, you can sneak up on your war target without him noticing you until its too late. :/
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.10.27 20:04:00 -
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It's an idea that's been raised before, but it's still a good one.
Buddy lists are horrible things to have to update, and cause lag.
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Pestillence
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Posted - 2005.10.27 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Trevedian And Pestilence, your prolly not an experienced enough player to comprehend the issue here, but I thank you for your input.
Thx for the insight Trev.
My main has been at war with your corp before. I think I have enough experience.
How long does one have to be in the game to spot a poor idea in your expert opinion?
You have the tools to get info on people so you can add them to your address book. The simple fact is you just want an "easy" option.
In all honesty I dont think it would be at all hard to do what you are proposing. The fact that it hasnt been done gives a clear indication that you need to work for your kills. No floating from system to system looking for a telltale dot on local so you can kill an unsuspecting empire hauler or mission runner.
I think I hit the nail on the head
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.10.27 20:22:00 -
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And implement ASAP a feature to switch off character face generation when showing info.
Until a solution to this issue has been agreed upon CCP should allow us to how info quicker at least.
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.10.27 20:55:00 -
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Solution -> 0.0
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:13:00 -
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how is that a solution for empire wars?
remeber, the key word here is empire
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:28:00 -
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i hate local altogether. It shouldn't show until someone speaks, anywhere. Unless of course you run into an alliance or corperation member.
covert ships? bleh, I can dream :( ________
I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
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grendels arm
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:35:00 -
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Pestilence,
Don't you think people have a right to ask what other people's thoughts are on something and state their opinion without being called "lazy"? Like you did to Trevedian. Some people like myself don't know alot about Eve and like hearing discussions about this. That is until I get to the "wiseass reply" that always shows up in every post calling the original poster a name or insulting him because he dared to suggest the idea.
I mean Trevidian even said:
"Please don't flame me claiming that "War is War, and it shouldn't be easy". I am open to any suggestions people might have about how to solve this issue"
Maybe the better idea was for you to not reply at all instead of just saying he is just "lazy".
I mean how would you feel if you posted something and every time sometime said "no you're lazy" or "no you're stupid".
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Thomus
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Posted - 2005.10.27 21:41:00 -
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OMFG! Are you saying that people dont show in 0.0 unless they speak? what if its full of pirates - hang on, they wont know ur there either - COOL! ----------------
Tom
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:35:00 -
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Edited by: Trevedian on 27/10/2005 22:45:08
Originally by: Drilla And implement ASAP a feature to switch off character face generation when showing info.
Until a solution to this issue has been agreed upon CCP should allow us to how info quicker at least.
I wholeheartedly agree with you Drilla...
And Pestilence... Why are you posting with an alt, and then admitting that you gotz no lub for "The Trevinator"? Lets discuss the issue of how to make local in excessively populated systems more intelligible in large scale wars rather than make this thread an Ad Hominem attack on me, kkthxbye
I recall my early days as a pirate and try to contemplate what it would be like to try and gank miners in belts in low sec, when no one appears in local unless they talk... Thats just silly...
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:44:00 -
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I think local chat should always be empty. I dont see my address book showing green lights when my neighbours are around or showing red lights when burglars are at the corner. More interesting for battles, covert ops, etc.
Since Eve == suspense, and Eve == pain when bad things happen, this feature will introduce the element of fear and fun everywhere.
I may be wrong but just my opinion. ----------------
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LeisureSuit Lisa
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Posted - 2005.10.27 22:56:00 -
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Either make local show plus and minus signs or just remove it complitely. Currently it's just plain annoying.
Personally I like idea of no local, but it would propably result in much much more boring game...
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Wanoah I fully endorse this idea. I would love to have a buddy list that actually had some buddies in it instead of having hundreds of enemies in it.
(I'd also like an afk indicator for corp chat etc too)
Sounds like the phrase, you put your friends close but you put your enemies closer.
Is that why you're afraid to let me get close to ya Jenny?
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.10.27 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Trevedian Is that why you're afraid to let me get close to ya Jenny?
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