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Reece Davis
Unsung Heroes The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:40:00 -
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ok, i've heard 20 different stories......i want to know if someone can tell me exactly what is going on with this new racial skill point thing.
IF we have our clone upgraded to take all the SP, then we will have the SP automatically put towards those skills
IF we do not, then all SP that cannot be covered by the clone grade will then be put in the unallocated SP pool?
is this right, can someone please confirm this please |
Liam Inkuras
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
279
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:43:00 -
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Nah the SP is just getting added on. Just upgrade your clone after the downtime and you'll be good. I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1883
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:44:00 -
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Your clone only means anything when you die. It does not restrict skill training. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
2334
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:52:00 -
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The SP is specifically for those skills an none others. There isn't any scenario where it turns into unallocated SP.
It will be applied the same regardless of your clone grade. Plan accordingly on your own. The Drake is a Lie |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2945
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:52:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234
It took less that 30 seconds for me to find that. It's not hard. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Ty Frisco
Strategic Acquisitions Group Tactical Research Lab
2
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:54:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234
It took less that 30 seconds for me to find that. It's not hard.
Awe |
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
180
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:08:00 -
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Reece Davis wrote:ok, i've heard 20 different stories......i want to know if someone can tell me exactly what is going on with this new racial skill point thing.
IF we have our clone upgraded to take all the SP, then we will have the SP automatically put towards those skills
IF we do not, then all SP that cannot be covered by the clone grade will then be put in the unallocated SP pool?
is this right, can someone please confirm this please
Try reading a dev blog you stupid bastard!
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2550
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:16:00 -
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Reece Davis wrote:ok, i've heard 20 different stories......i want to know if someone can tell me exactly what is going on with this new racial skill point thing.
IF we have our clone upgraded to take all the SP, then we will have the SP automatically put towards those skills
IF we do not, then all SP that cannot be covered by the clone grade will then be put in the unallocated SP pool?
is this right, can someone please confirm this please
All skills will be reset to zero and the SP and skillbooks will be refunded. You will also be given the option of changing your name, resculpting your character and deleting your corp history.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2035
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:33:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234
It took less that 30 seconds for me to find that. It's not hard.
That's just one of the 20 stories he's heard.
He came to GD for the truth!
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
4128
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:38:00 -
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This again. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
776
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:38:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Reece Davis wrote:ok, i've heard 20 different stories......i want to know if someone can tell me exactly what is going on with this new racial skill point thing.
IF we have our clone upgraded to take all the SP, then we will have the SP automatically put towards those skills
IF we do not, then all SP that cannot be covered by the clone grade will then be put in the unallocated SP pool?
is this right, can someone please confirm this please All skills will be reset to zero and the SP and skillbooks will be refunded. You will also be given the option of changing your name, resculpting your character and deleting your corp history. Mr Epeen
And while all this is happening your Exotic Dancers, Female will come alive, appear besides your pc and proclaim themselves your willing sex slaves. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1457
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:40:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:
He came to GD for the truth!
Then he's confused about the definition of the word "truth". Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |
Black Dranzer
239
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:45:00 -
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During downtime, your battlecruiser and destroyer skills will be removed. You will also gain corresponding racial ship skills depending on your existing racial skills of the tier below. To put that into action:
Where N is the current level of your Destroyers skill: If you have level 3 or higher in Caldari Frigates, you will receive level N in Caldari Destroyers. If you have level 3 or higher in Gallente Frigates, you will receive level N in Gallente Destroyers. If you have level 3 or higher in Amarr Frigates, you will receive level N in Amarr Destroyers. If you have level 3 or higher in Minmatar Frigates, you will receive level N in Minmatar Destroyers.
Where M is the current level of your Battlecruisers skill: If you have level 3 or higher in Caldari Cruisers, you will receive level M in Caldari Battlecruisers . If you have level 3 or higher in Gallente Cruisers, you will receive level M in Gallente Battlecruisers . If you have level 3 or higher in Amarr Cruisers, you will receive level M in Amarr Battlecruisers . If you have level 3 or higher in Minmatar Cruisers, you will receive level M in Minmatar Battlecruisers .
There is a good chance (depending on your skills) that this will result in your new skill point total being higher than your existing one: Potentially around 6 million higher if you're a useless prick like me who has 5 in every frigate, destroyer, cruiser and battlecruiser ship command skill. In the event that this happens, your character will not blow up, but there is a chance that you will have more skill points than your current clone can support. In that case, update your clone: If you do not, the next time you get podded, you stand to lose some of your skills.
If for some reason you do not have ANY racial frigate or cruiser skills above level 2, your Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser skill will simply have its points refunded. Note: I'm not even sure if this can practically happen.
TL:DR: TO MAXIMIZE YOUR BENEFIT, GET ALL RACIAL FRIGATE AND CRUISER SKILLS TO LEVEL 3, GET DESTROYERS AND BATTLECRUISERS TO LEVEL 5, AND MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH ROOM ON YOUR CLONE FOR AROUND 7 MILLION EXTRA SKILL POINTS. |
March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
695
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:08:00 -
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Reece Davis wrote:ok, i've heard 20 different stories......i want to know if someone can tell me exactly what is going on with this new racial skill point thing. there is only 1 story you need: the one told by CCP developers.
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
879
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:10:00 -
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Black Dranzer wrote:During downtime, your battlecruiser and destroyer skills will be removed. You will also gain corresponding racial ship skills depending on your existing racial skills of the tier below. To put that into action:
Where N is the current level of your Destroyers skill: If you have level 3 or higher in Caldari Frigates, you will receive level N in Caldari Destroyers. If you have level 3 or higher in Gallente Frigates, you will receive level N in Gallente Destroyers. If you have level 3 or higher in Amarr Frigates, you will receive level N in Amarr Destroyers. If you have level 3 or higher in Minmatar Frigates, you will receive level N in Minmatar Destroyers.
Where M is the current level of your Battlecruisers skill: If you have level 3 or higher in Caldari Cruisers, you will receive level M in Caldari Battlecruisers . If you have level 3 or higher in Gallente Cruisers, you will receive level M in Gallente Battlecruisers . If you have level 3 or higher in Amarr Cruisers, you will receive level M in Amarr Battlecruisers . If you have level 3 or higher in Minmatar Cruisers, you will receive level M in Minmatar Battlecruisers .
There is a good chance (depending on your skills) that this will result in your new skill point total being higher than your existing one: Potentially around 6 million higher if you're a useless prick like me who has 5 in every frigate, destroyer, cruiser and battlecruiser ship command skill. In the event that this happens, your character will not blow up, but there is a chance that you will have more skill points than your current clone can support. In that case, update your clone: If you do not, the next time you get podded, you stand to lose some of your skills.
If for some reason you do not have ANY racial frigate or cruiser skills above level 2, your Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser skill will simply have its points refunded. Note: I'm not even sure if this can practically happen.
TL:DR: TO MAXIMIZE YOUR BENEFIT, GET ALL RACIAL FRIGATE AND CRUISER SKILLS TO LEVEL 3, GET DESTROYERS AND BATTLECRUISERS TO LEVEL 5, AND MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH ROOM ON YOUR CLONE FOR AROUND 7 MILLION EXTRA SKILL POINTS.
TL;DR, if you have racial frigate/cruiser skill at 3 and destroyer/battlecruiser skill at any number between 0 and 5, you will get your racial battlecruiser/destroyer skill at said number, as long as you have cruiser/frigate skill at 3 of the same race.
straight up example is: john has lvl3 matari frigate and lvl1 gallente frigate, but has destroyer at lvl5. he will recieve matari destoyer at lvl5, but he won't recieve gallente destroyer at all.
same applies to battlecruiser.
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Viktor Runich
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:11:00 -
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Black Dranzer wrote: TL:DR: TO MAXIMIZE YOUR BENEFIT, GET ALL RACIAL FRIGATE AND CRUISER SKILLS TO LEVEL 3.
You do know that the pre-required skill for racial cruiser is level 4 in racial frigate?
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Black Dranzer
239
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:02:00 -
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Viktor Runich wrote:[quote=Black Dranzer]You do know that the pre-required skill for racial cruiser is level 4 in racial frigate? If we're being honest, it's been a very long time since I've had to train up frigate piloting skills. I'd long since forgotten the progression requirement. |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
653
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:50:00 -
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Prepare to get ~6 millions SP if you have cruisers + frigs of all races + destroyers and battlecruisers to 5. |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1230
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:24:00 -
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Mr. Orange wrote:Reece Davis wrote:ok, i've heard 20 different stories......i want to know if someone can tell me exactly what is going on with this new racial skill point thing.
IF we have our clone upgraded to take all the SP, then we will have the SP automatically put towards those skills
IF we do not, then all SP that cannot be covered by the clone grade will then be put in the unallocated SP pool?
is this right, can someone please confirm this please Try reading a dev blog you stupid bastard!
well mr smart ass the dev blog says nothing about howx they are going to implement the Sp maybe you should learn to read
and next time you call somebpdy a bastard have a look in the mirror first I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Lord Haur
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
97
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:13:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:The SP is specifically for those skills an none others. There isn't any scenario where it turns into unallocated SP. There is, but it's a very unlikely edge-case.
Black Dranzer wrote:If for some reason you do not have ANY racial frigate or cruiser skills above level 2, your Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser skill will simply have its points refunded. Note: I'm not even sure if this can practically happen. It could happen. Destroyers and Battlecruisers only require Spaceship Command, so it's entirely possible to train those skills without the racial frigate/cruiser you'd also need to pilot the ship. The Destroyers without any frigate 3 is less likely to occur, but AFAIK new characters now start with Frigate 2, so it's still possible. |
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Danni stark
420
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Posted - 2013.05.29 08:16:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:well mr smart ass the dev blog says nothing about howx they are going to implement the Sp maybe you should learn to read
and next time you call somebpdy a bastard have a look in the mirror first
yes they did Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
5260
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Posted - 2013.05.29 08:34:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:well mr smart ass the dev blog says nothing about howx they are going to implement the Sp maybe you should learn to read Yes, yes it does. The dev blog is extremely clear on this subject. Maybe you should learn to read. -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |
Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
393
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Posted - 2013.05.29 08:49:00 -
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I created a new Toon a month or so ago, immediately trained, all racial Frigs 4, Destroyers 5, Mini cruiser 4, BC 5 and spaceship command 4. So now I am sitting here trying to decide if I should train all the cruiser to 3 (It will only take 18 hours for all 3) or just take the 4.5 mil SP allocation.
Decisions, decisions, decisions You my friend,-ádefy the whole theory of Natural Selection. |
Danni stark
420
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Posted - 2013.05.29 08:57:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:I created a new Toon a month or so ago, immediately trained, all racial Frigs 4, Destroyers 5, Mini cruiser 4, BC 5 and spaceship command 4. So now I am sitting here trying to decide if I should train all the cruiser to 3 (It will only take 18 hours for all 3) or just take the 4.5 mil SP allocation.
Decisions, decisions, decisions
i'd train the cruisers, personally. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9602
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Posted - 2013.05.29 09:24:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:pussnheels wrote:well mr smart ass the dev blog says nothing about howx they are going to implement the Sp maybe you should learn to read Yes, yes it does. The dev blog is extremely clear on this subject. Maybe you should learn to read.
It's pretty obvious that the forums are going to light up on this issue after June 4th.
I guess what I'm saying is, buy popcorn and bring a tear bucket.
And to pre-empt the inevitable question to the CSM, here's the pre-answer
"You've all had at least a year's warning and there have been multiple devblogs and dozens of forum threads about this. If you didn't get it sorted, then that's too bad. No we do not accept 'but lots of people don't read devblogs or forums or talk to other players' or any other forms of wilfull ignorance as a valid reason to demand that CCP exempt you from the consequences of that ignorance. We advise learning to keep yourself informed of major changes in the future."
There's still time to get Battlecruiser 4 and at least one more Cruiser 3 before Odyssey hits. Get on it.
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Danni stark
421
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Posted - 2013.05.29 09:27:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:It's pretty obvious that the forums are going to light up on this issue after June 4th.
I guess what I'm saying is, buy popcorn and bring a tear bucket.
not only this issue, but all the "omg where is my ice?" threads.
i think i'm going to buy M&Ms as well as popcorn, perhaps some liquorice alsorts if they're still on offer. going to be a long day on the 4th.
when the day is done i'll probably be taking another CCP advised forum vacation, i just won't be able to help myself. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
240
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Posted - 2013.05.29 09:36:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:I created a new Toon a month or so ago, immediately trained, all racial Frigs 4, Destroyers 5, Mini cruiser 4, BC 5 and spaceship command 4. So now I am sitting here trying to decide if I should train all the cruiser to 3 (It will only take 18 hours for all 3) or just take the 4.5 mil SP allocation.
Decisions, decisions, decisions You won't get any SP, since you already get racial Destroyer and Battlecruiser skills. You'll only gain SP to fly what you could fly before, not to fly what you couldn't fly before. |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
891
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Posted - 2013.05.29 10:26:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:I created a new Toon a month or so ago, immediately trained, all racial Frigs 4, Destroyers 5, Mini cruiser 4, BC 5 and spaceship command 4. So now I am sitting here trying to decide if I should train all the cruiser to 3 (It will only take 18 hours for all 3) or just take the 4.5 mil SP allocation.
Decisions, decisions, decisions there will be no unallocated SP.
in your case, you will have all racial destroyer skills at 5, matari battlecruiser at 5, and that's it. no extra unallocated SP, no nothing.
so yeah, better train those cruiser skills to 3 if you want all 4 BC at 5. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
187
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Posted - 2013.05.29 10:40:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:I created a new Toon a month or so ago, immediately trained, all racial Frigs 4, Destroyers 5, Mini cruiser 4, BC 5 and spaceship command 4. So now I am sitting here trying to decide if I should train all the cruiser to 3 (It will only take 18 hours for all 3) or just take the 4.5 mil SP allocation.
Decisions, decisions, decisions
No meaningful choice there at all - take the cruisers to 3 or you'll miss out (you won't get any SP allocation in that situation) |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2489
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Posted - 2013.05.29 10:42:00 -
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