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Spacing Cowboy
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.21 07:22:00 -
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Ok, long story short.. i want to go go liberate some pods who are locked down in mac's and stuff.. hell, maybe even salvage some of them.
But, as terrible i am .. and used to flying caldari ships.. And, as ive been told those are terrible for one-shot ganks ( true? ) , was looking at blaster brutix or something like that..
The question :p ->
Blaster brutix, just stack the high's with... blasters.. and as much damage mods i can put on it ? And, is that enough to kill a mac / hulk ?
And as final goodbye to highsec for a while again , If i use a raven or domi, filled with smarty's , do i need cap-boosters to get off a 2e / 3e cycle ?
Ow, yes.. i did try to look for the answer myself, but search turns up a damn lot of brutix, a bit to much to go trough
*peace* |
Jooce McNasty
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.21 08:02:00 -
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So do you want to Gank?
Do you want to PVP?
Are you going to go after missioners?
It's hard to tell what you want to do.
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Spacing Cowboy
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.21 08:13:00 -
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Oh yes, sorry about that,
Suicide gank miners / haulers in highsec |
Spacing Cowboy
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.21 10:05:00 -
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i am.. true terrible..
Brutix vs Mac ... Mac wins ! ;p
don't know what i've done wrong tho:
Passive targeter [x] Optimal range [x] Overheat [x]
Before i could get a 2e salvo off, got jammed by the cops / neuted to death..
Any sugestions ?
This is my own KM, so i assume its ok by the forum mods
2011.10.21 10:01:00
Victim: Spacing Cowboy Corp: Perkone Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Brutix System: Mitsolen Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 10304
Involved parties:
Name: CONCORD Police Commander / CONCORD (laid the final blow) Damage Done: 10304
Destroyed items:
Heavy Neutron Blaster I, Qty: 4 Cargo Scanner I Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 237 Scan Resolution Magnetic Field Stabilizer I, Qty: 2 Suppressed Targeting System I
Dropped items:
Ship Scanner I Acolyte I, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay) Heavy Neutron Blaster I, Qty: 3 Sensor Booster I Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 316 Magnetic Field Stabilizer I, Qty: 2 |
Reppyk
The Black Shell
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Posted - 2011.10.21 10:30:00 -
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Regular ammos, meta0 guns, meta0 magstabs. And I think your gunnery skills are weak. And why a cargo scanner ? You want a ship scanner. |
Valhallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.21 10:33:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=203631#post203631
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=203215#post203215
or tempest 1400's with gyros in the low.,The meta 1 and 2 1400's are the cheapest
tempest is the best but a more expensive option
You probably need all relevant gunnery skills at lv5 what ever option you choose, like surgical strike,sharpshooter
Start with untanked macks and hulks to get into it. you can passively target them and then use a ship scanner to check the set up. |
Vorpheus
Three Sword Inc
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Posted - 2011.10.21 11:16:00 -
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those are my secrets, might not all that right ;)
for every gank there is a tool...
rifters can kill procurers (very rare ship) thrashers can kill retrievers thorax'es can kill mackinaws brutix'es can kill hulks
i dont have quiet the best skillpoints for any of that yet, but its possible, did it with another toon...
biggest guns possible dont use more than 4 damage mods tracking enhancers maybe faction ammo in 0.5-0.6 use drones too check with a ship scanner how it is tanked... for macks and hulks, especially in belts, you dont need a scrambler, they accelerate too slowly... maybe a web... in a belt i never needed a passive targeter either, they arnt all the time at the computer i think... aah, almost forgot: DONT gank miners near a orca... they can instantly store them inside (i hope i am right there, have no personal proof)
for higher ganks you should try the apocalypse or the tempest... why apocalypse you might ask? its the only ship in its price class with 8 turrets... use artillery, DONT use lasers... were ever you are, 0.5 or 1.0, you will only be able to shoot once... BUT a max skilled apoc with t2 artilleries is doing 12k damage in just one volley...
the tempest is only having 6 turret slots, but you gain a damage and rate of fire bonus, so you can MAYBE shoot twice in 0.5 systems...
use the Eve Fitting Tool, you even can use it to create your targets, create damage profiles of your ammo, check how much damage you do with the DPS graph...
happy gank
my last gank: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10830920 |
Spacing Cowboy
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.21 11:21:00 -
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True, i have terrible gunnery skills <-- caldari missile slinger, gunnery at 5, suports at 2 or 3 for now
I had the cargo scanner if i found a hauler first ( but the brutix proved to slow in that fit to get in optimal on a gate ) so i went to a ice-field after.
Will have a look at a tempest, don't care so much for cost/profit, i just want to kill some stuff & fast easy while losing the sec status. Will need to train some skill for that tho, so be it. ( can't fly tempest )
( going for pods is a bit to fast ;p ) but i might go for that anyway with some rocket boat
The ship scanner i had also, maybe ( proberly ) made the mistake of going for a mac with 2x EM-resist fitted.. bha, should have known better :) :) :)
Technical speaking , could i just pull the same with a HAM drake ?? ( im all 5'se in missile's ) |
Vorpheus
Three Sword Inc
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Posted - 2011.10.21 11:32:00 -
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i wouldnt use missiles for it... blasters are the best for close range, artilleries are the best for long range... the only exception would be a torpedo-raven, but the target would need to be at battlecruiser to battleship size... mining barges have too small signatures... |
Kagan Storm
Syndicated Systems
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Posted - 2011.10.21 13:46:00 -
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Just find another caldari person and go do stuff in recons.... 2 of you can neutralize 2-4 of them...
Do it the caldari way... irritate the **** out of them. Offering small loans. Send message for details and arrangements. :)
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.10.21 13:56:00 -
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You want to go flashy fast? Sit just off a busy gate with a rack of smartbombs repeatedly and catch all the people autopiloting. |
Spacing Cowboy
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.21 15:52:00 -
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Smarty attack will be my final goodby from highsec :p Ive been sadomised by that before, time to pass on the message of love :)
The carebear is strong with me, figurs.. Take brutix... Explode ship.. Harvest hatemail..
And all i get is a pissed off concord and would be victem pissing his pants of laughter.
( i would, hell, i did when ganks failed on me ) |
Spacing Cowboy
Perkone Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2011.10.22 15:38:00 -
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Brutix vs Retriever... Brutix wins! ;p *finaly*
Do got the feeling i could have done it with a destroyer, a hell.. overpowered for the win. ( and maybe the gateguns would have popped my dessy before concord came in for punishment )
I did got some rage tho .. a well.. if it counts for that...
[15:38:49] Spacing Cowboy > good morning dear sire [15:38:56] *retriever owner*> l u lost your ship to stuped ass |
T RAYRAY
Black Sail Anarchists Yarr Collective
0
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Posted - 2011.10.23 14:41:00 -
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Here's my recommendation:
it takes killing just 6 pods in jita to go to -10.
1. buy 6 thrashers, 42 meta-2/3 250mm arties, 12 gyrostab 1s, 12 sensor boosters and scan resolution scripts, 42 rounds fleet emp S (always remember to group guns) 2) with a friend or on a second account in fleet, check perimeter gate in a shuttle or other unthreatening ship. put the shuttle about 4k-5k away from a afk pod, there always seem to be 2 or 3 of them there. 3) undock in thrasher, warp to alt at 0km, activate guns and sensor boosters on the fly, click the target pod as soon as your warp stops. hit enter as fast as possible when the warning comes up. 4) enjoy the sec status drop 5) warp out before others target you and pop your pod :)
couple other tips from the times I've done it with alts: 1) bottom station in jita has a cloning facility and never any camps on the undock, easier to get the flasy red thrasher out of there without being popped on the undock, and if you do get podded by some anti-pirate wanker, you're right back at a cloning station with all your ganking stuff 2) regardless where you go, make an instant-undock-safe just in case. 3) buy in station 4-4, courier contract your gank-ships to the station of your choice. It adds humor that some of the bears that do those courier contracts may be the ones you pop on the gate later on :) 4) have eveboard.com up in a browser window. when you need to make a choice between 2 pod targets, ALWAYS pick the one that has higher value implants... it's just the right thing to do. |
Spacing Cowboy
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.23 21:00:00 -
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exelent :) ( will procede )
Got one at a gate today with a dessy, did they remove the skwoesh sound? ( had max sound on, but next to the local navy chewing down on my ship / making the warnings go... no - skwoesh - )
Little update on the ship side, had several fails today ( but fun ) , brutix vs mac is just no-go due lack of gunnery skills , even in perfect range, sitting still, with faction ammo...
Neaaarly had a retriever, but he jumped the gate before i nailed him, i lack that entire on myself.. Just took to much time getting the range "perfect"
A well, the retriever had a good day tho.
Also attemted to km-***** on a "college" ganker with a Tempest, but even with me shooting the guy before concord delt with him , didn't get the mail. ( guess i was to far off ) EDIT: just noticed on battleclinic, the km-***** was indeed a sucses after all :)
Injecting minny battleship + large projectile tomorrow , should be just in time before my run to 0.0 again
But with a good few beers, including me failing terrible , didn't have as much fun in eve for a while :) :) :) |
I Accidentally YourShip
Suzuka Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.24 17:45:00 -
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What are you doing wasting a perfectly good Brutix on a Retriever? A Catalyst can take out retrievers, no need for a Brutix.
As for only getting two shots off in 0.6, sounds like you got killed by a pre-set CONCORD trap. You can prime CONCORD in your belt / location with a throwaway alt. Use the alt to shoot your ship, CONCORD comes to blow up said ship, CONCORD hangs around and the delay for their response is nullified in that area while they are there. They will respond nearly instantly.
Make sure CONCORD is on your overview and check for them before engaging. If someone is doing this, you can do it to them with your own throwaway alt. Prime CONCORD somewhere else within that system, it will remove CONCORD from their area. |
Spacing Cowboy
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.10.26 06:11:00 -
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Update, relocated to 0.0 for more kills, but before flying in:
Indeed, that was my bad also, picket targets at gates, not in belts. And.. Yes, did not have concord on overview *oeps*
Live & learn
Must say, a most amusing moment was a convo of a collega(?) ganker who basicly told me that they would stop until i left. Maybe the sebo gave my *cunning* km-***** plans away.
Btw, am i the only one with a borked hidden targeter? Ive activated the module -> but somehow, as soon i get a lock it shuts down.. And the pray runs. *odd* Yes, autorepeat is active. Testing with a alt proved,you still see me targeting you.
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Bloody Wench
85
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Posted - 2011.10.26 06:25:00 -
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Regarding the passive targeter, pretty sure you activate the mod then click overview, dont use ctrl click or the target button on the overview, or you can activate the mod and click in space. |
Spacing Cowboy
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
7
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Posted - 2011.10.26 08:36:00 -
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And again, the fail proved strong in me, that was proberly the step i was doing wrong :)
Bloody hell, managing to screw up the use of "week 1 module" after playing for a fair bit of time
Victory !!! |
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
521
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Posted - 2011.10.26 12:21:00 -
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Suicide yanking doesn't make you lose your carebear status but have fun anyway. GÖÑ Haviing your portrait painted here helps INTAKI Disabled Children GÖÑ |
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