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Hakaimono
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly
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Posted - 2013.05.31 15:17:00 -
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With the Brutix buff and the introduction of the navy issue, what do you think could make the Eos and Astarte stand out without being redundant among the Brutix hulls? Aside from link mods ofc. |
Syrias Bizniz
Carnivore Company
173
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:11:00 -
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I'd like to see the Eos become a Droneboat with 75mbit of drones and a +1 Drone Control bonus on Commandship skill. Rest doesn't really matter. |
Roime
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:42:00 -
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Fozzie has said that the Eos will become "the T2 Myrmidon we have always wanted". I'll take it :) 125mbit/s imho.
Astarte is good as it is, but perhaps it could leave local rep bonus to the Eos. It might make sense to make one of each race's CS similar, like HICs are. Resist bonus would work.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
crazy0146
Boris Johnson's Love Children
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:15:00 -
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Roime wrote:Fozzie has said that the Eos will become "the T2 Myrmidon we have always wanted". I'll take it :) 125mbit/s imho.
Astarte is good as it is, but perhaps it could leave local rep bonus to the Eos. It might make sense to make one of each race's CS similar, like HICs are. Resist bonus would work.
Hopefully that means the eos hull will be based on a myrm hull as the navy bc is a brutix |
Roime
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
3058
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:21:00 -
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That would be sweet. Some (low quality image) Odyssey preview screenie portrayed a special looking Myrm, but it could be meant for anything or nothing at all. Even just a redesign of the T1 version.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Hakaimono
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly
153
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:33:00 -
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Roime wrote:That would be sweet. Some (low quality image) Odyssey preview screenie portrayed a special looking Myrm, but it could be meant for anything or nothing at all. Even just a redesign of the T1 version. Hopefully there isn't any part of the EVE story that specifically describes the Eos as a Brutix hull. That way we can switch to a Myrm hull and pretend it was always like that. |
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille Gallente Federation
154
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Posted - 2013.05.31 23:00:00 -
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Have you ever counted the slots on the command ships, here is an oddity
Sleip 18 slots Claymore 18 slots Eos 17 slots Astarte 17 slots
Many of the other command ships also have 17 slots. Notice also that like the Ishtar the Eos has not lost a slot as per a typical drone ship as itGÇÖs drone bay has been increased through a bonus.
I perhaps hope for something along the lines of the following.
Astarte to get plus one slot probably a Low for 18 slots as well as other command ships.
Swap Eos model to Myrm
Eos to remain at 17 slots but be given the drone bay outright and have the drone bay bonus changed to drone tracking and speed.
Eos to swap the Hybrid turret bonus to Drone Damage and Hitpoints
10% rep bonus would be nice for both also.
3% bonus changes to include Armoured warfare as per the blog.
Still would perhaps like a wildcard bonus like being able to fit and use micro jump drives for command ships.
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
3721
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Posted - 2013.05.31 23:35:00 -
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Alticus C Bear wrote: 3% bonus changes to include Armoured warfare as per the blog.
And all warfare links are being nerfed to 1% of their current effectiveness. Sounds great to me.
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Nimrod vanHall
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2013.06.01 10:35:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Alticus C Bear wrote: 3% bonus changes to include Armoured warfare as per the blog.
And all warfare links are being nerfed to 1% of their current effectiveness. Sounds great to me. -Liang
Remove them altogether and refund the skilpoints. |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
256
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Posted - 2013.06.01 10:45:00 -
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Just make them targeted modules so you have to be on grid and also doesn't affect an entire fleet |
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DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
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Posted - 2013.06.01 13:42:00 -
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Quote:With the Brutix buff and the introduction of the navy issue, what do you think could make the Eos and Astarte stand out without being redundant among the Brutix hulls? Aside from link mods ofc. You already said what should set CS's apart from their T1 BC cousins. They are boosters, plain and simple, that is their purpose. CCP already stated that once they finish Tiericide with CS's they are all getting an across the board DPS buff and yes that the Eos is going to be a better Drone Boat than it is now. Though, these changes are not likely to land on June 4th, just the change for links iirc.
What CS's should not become are bigger HACs, that's not their purpose or design. They should stay in line with what they do and have lower DPS output, maybe even slower/less agile than their T1 BC cousins and HAC's. However, they should have better scan res and sensor strength. The Operative:-á"There are a lot of innocent people being killed in the air right now".
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds:-á"You have no idea how true that is". |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1922
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Posted - 2013.06.01 13:46:00 -
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Astarte's role should be more or less the same. DPS is fine, just needs a bit more tank. Eos should get 125mb/s bandwidth and drone bonuses to range and dps. |
Voith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
105
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Posted - 2013.06.01 14:59:00 -
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Alticus C Bear wrote:
Sleip 18 slots Claymore 18 slots Eos 17 slots Astarte 17 slots
It is part of CCPs on going policy of ******* drone boats by adding random penalties. |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.01 15:28:00 -
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I really like the Astarte for its BC Hull/DPS role. I hope they don't nerf it in an effort to homogonize the Eos-Astarte combo.
Eos was once known as the 'tankier' of the two. What we don't need, is another 'average tank, average DPS' BC hull.
When the ship class is called 'Command Ships', I expect them to be *commanding* in some aspect.
My hopes would more or less apply to all the Command hulls. But these are the two I fly, and trained for. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
771
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Posted - 2013.06.01 15:38:00 -
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Nimrod vanHall wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Alticus C Bear wrote: 3% bonus changes to include Armoured warfare as per the blog.
And all warfare links are being nerfed to 1% of their current effectiveness. Sounds great to me. -Liang Remove them altogether and refund the skilpoints.
This. Change T2 BC's in to Heavy Assault Battlecruisers attack/combat classes, leave Titans the job to boost fleets with their passive bonus. Want bonus? -bring the titan out of POS shields, risk averse?-leave it off line or kissing the pos to bridge stuff. Risk/rewards of boosting must be balanced with a huge nerf hammer. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
99
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:35:00 -
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I'd love them to have marauderized highslots. So 4 gun hardpoints, acting as 8. Then 5 hislots on every CS and you can choose for yourself if you want to take the equivalent of 8 guns+utility, or want to add warfarelinks. And every warfarelink after the first starts eating up your offfensive capabilities. Eos would be different I fear, with those drones. And afterall, shipboni so your effective turrets don't change comparing to the old CS layout.
Less turrets, more OH, exactly the same damage application.
If you need more than 5 links from possibly various fields, take a Tech-III-booster instead ;)
Roime wrote:Fozzie has said that the Eos will become "the T2 Myrmidon we have always wanted". I'll take it :) 125mbit/s imho.
Astarte is good as it is, but perhaps it could leave local rep bonus to the Eos. It might make sense to make one of each race's CS similar, like HICs are. Resist bonus would work.
NoooooooooooO! Leave that repbonus exactly where it is! Not every scrub flies with logi, some like to tank for themselves! |
Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
4
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:32:00 -
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RavenPaine wrote:I really like the Astarte for its BC Hull/DPS role. I hope they don't nerf it in an effort to homogonize the Eos-Astarte combo.
Eos was once known as the 'tankier' of the two. What we don't need, is another 'average tank, average DPS' BC hull.
When the ship class is called 'Command Ships', I expect them to be *commanding* in some aspect.
My hopes would more or less apply to all the Command hulls. But these are the two I fly, and trained for.
100% agreed. I expect the worst for coming command ships "adjustments". Considering the homogenization of T1 BC hulls, their weapion systems and slot layouts. The Astarte should get +1 slot (either mid or low), increased HP, slightly better agility or lower mass and maybe a small PG boost or different bonus than fallof. It should keep it's current role "double slap in your face" - just like the Absolution and Nighthawk, which need improvements as well. Sleipnir is already great.
The Eos should get +1 low slot, increased CPU / PG, increased HP,125m-¦ drone bandtwith and a HUGE drone bay. Giving warfare link bonus on the field as well as being a swiss army knife in small gang PvP using it's HUGE drone bay (okay electronic warfare drones need an overhaul for this option). Providing a nasty bag of worms (or drones in this case) like webbing/repping/neuting/damage drones for the gang. Damnation is fine, can't comment on Vulture and Claymore.
At least that's what i'm dreaming off .
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Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
4
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:35:00 -
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Btw. funny how CCP aimes for making the Eos more like a drone boat ... just as she was before they nerfed her. Same as navy BCs and their previously nerfed T1 counterparts. And that's sold to us as "expansion" ...
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Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno Malefic Motives
219
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Posted - 2013.06.02 13:11:00 -
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Astarte should remain the way it is but with some boost to its tank, it's dps and slot layout is fine.
I'd like to see the Eos get the 125mbit bandwith it deserves and maybe make it more of a brick tank instead of yet another rep bonused Gallente hull. |
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