Monitor this thread via RSS [?]
 
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 30 40 50 [60] 70 80 90 100 .. 100 :: one page
Author Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 42 post(s)
Vlad Karamazov
Vlad Karamazov

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 18:31:00 - [1771]

Edited by: Vlad Karamazov on 02/11/2005 18:33:40
Edited by: Vlad Karamazov on 02/11/2005 18:31:59
Originally by: Verlan
Well I think that to compensate for the loss of numbers in drones we should be able to get FoF drones and I don't believe 5 mining drones will yield as much as the old 15 (Dominix) even with the max bonuses. And it is definetely not fair to have to train 23 days for interface level 5 just to get to the same level as before!!!


Drones are efectively FoF or near it.

This post shows complete lack of understanding of what the changes will be. If you could control 15 drones on dominx then you have drone interface to 5 and dont need to train it anymore . Cool thing isnt it?
If you do need to train DI to lvl5 then you will get better preformance then before since you could not have lvl 15.

What do you mean I dont belive 5 drones will do what 15 did. If domi gets the bonus to mining then they will. Simple as 5+5*100%+5*100% = 15
If domi doesnt get the bonus then it is equal to 10 old drones. There is nothing about belive in here. Just do your math.

That post is just example of many whining posts by ppl who are likely never used drones before , have no skills in them and now they notice drones will be useful for something more then extra litle bit of damage.

Edit: Now i notice - you were being sarcastic. Silly me.
Vlad Karamazov
Vlad Karamazov

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 18:31:00 - [1772]

Edited by: Vlad Karamazov on 02/11/2005 18:33:40
Edited by: Vlad Karamazov on 02/11/2005 18:31:59
Originally by: Verlan
Well I think that to compensate for the loss of numbers in drones we should be able to get FoF drones and I don't believe 5 mining drones will yield as much as the old 15 (Dominix) even with the max bonuses. And it is definetely not fair to have to train 23 days for interface level 5 just to get to the same level as before!!!


Drones are efectively FoF or near it.

This post shows complete lack of understanding of what the changes will be. If you could control 15 drones on dominx then you have drone interface to 5 and dont need to train it anymore . Cool thing isnt it?
If you do need to train DI to lvl5 then you will get better preformance then before since you could not have lvl 15.

What do you mean I dont belive 5 drones will do what 15 did. If domi gets the bonus to mining then they will. Simple as 5+5*100%+5*100% = 15
If domi doesnt get the bonus then it is equal to 10 old drones. There is nothing about belive in here. Just do your math.

That post is just example of many whining posts by ppl who are likely never used drones before , have no skills in them and now they notice drones will be useful for something more then extra litle bit of damage.

Edit: Now i notice - you were being sarcastic. Silly me.
Aakron
Aakron

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 18:35:00 - [1773]

At first I was very sceptical about the changes, with the damage bonus reassigned to all damage types and the explanations made clearer in the blog I am quite happy with the changes. I am of course disappointed that I will no longer be able to release swarms of drones although if this helps to release lag then i suppose it is acceptable.

The dominix bonus to HP and damage seems good, although yes I would miss the ability to mine with 15 instead of what is now effectively 10 drones I dont think you can give the dominix a bonus to mining yield..its just wrong!
Aakron
Aakron
Infinitus Odium

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 18:35:00 - [1774]

At first I was very sceptical about the changes, with the damage bonus reassigned to all damage types and the explanations made clearer in the blog I am quite happy with the changes. I am of course disappointed that I will no longer be able to release swarms of drones although if this helps to release lag then i suppose it is acceptable.

The dominix bonus to HP and damage seems good, although yes I would miss the ability to mine with 15 instead of what is now effectively 10 drones I dont think you can give the dominix a bonus to mining yield..its just wrong!
---
Alex Harumichi
Alex Harumichi

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 18:45:00 - [1775]

Edited by: Alex Harumichi on 02/11/2005 18:45:40
Tux, I'm a drone user so it might surprise you to hear this, but:

Could we please have a reduction in heavy drone tracking / effective damage vs. small ships? Along with this, I'd like a boost to light drone effectiveness against those same small ships.

At the moment, heavy drones are *much* too effective vs all ship types (sort of the old missile problem), while light drones are very close to useles (even a swarm of them won't really harm an interceptor).

I'd like some reason to also use light and medium drones, please, instead of just always heavies if I can fit them.

Alex Harumichi
Alex Harumichi
Gallente
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 18:45:00 - [1776]

Edited by: Alex Harumichi on 02/11/2005 18:45:40
Tux, I'm a drone user so it might surprise you to hear this, but:

Could we please have a reduction in heavy drone tracking / effective damage vs. small ships? Along with this, I'd like a boost to light drone effectiveness against those same small ships.

At the moment, heavy drones are *much* too effective vs all ship types (sort of the old missile problem), while light drones are very close to useles (even a swarm of them won't really harm an interceptor).

I'd like some reason to also use light and medium drones, please, instead of just always heavies if I can fit them.

Clavius XIV
Clavius XIV

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 18:49:00 - [1777]

Edited by: Clavius XIV on 02/11/2005 18:49:03
Originally by: Tiny Carlos
If you look at Drone Interfacing as a skill now, ignoring what it is beeing changed to balance, it's freakishly overpowered. It had some of this effect before but only on really big drone bays, not for every single droneuser.


This is actually an excellent point. Its a good thing that the intial proposal is being adjusted to insure that drone specialists in drone ships don't do less damage/mining than before.

However for ships with less than 100m3 dronebay,this represents a significant dps boost.

In the best case, take the Prophecy, which with the current 50m^3 dronebay can currently launch 2 heavies or 5 mediums. A Prophecy pilot with drone interfacing or drones V does exactly the same max dps currently as one that also has interfacing 5. (could launch 10 lights, but they do less damage than 5 mediums).

With the changes a prophecy pilot can *double*current maximum possible drone dps.

You also see the incongruities with the drone cruisers. Currently to maximize drone cruiser dps, you want to fill the dronebay while using the most medium drones possible.

For my Arbitrator this means 15 medium drones for maximum damage. With the new drone interfacing, the spare drone space won't generally be used for spare drones, but for heavies. As was pointed out in the blog, this is an effective gain of 2 heavy drones. While I fly the Arbitrator 99.99% of the time, and this would benefit me, I still think that this is a bit whacky (althouth with the 4/4/4 nerf I guess I can look at it as compensation without feeling too guilty).

Of course all cruisers with between 50 and 100m3 of drone space are getting an effective damage boost from this, so perhaps on the cruiser level it will all balance out, but theres a lot of subtle complexities just in the damage department, before you even think about the ewar/logistic capabilities.

I'm not sure how to solve this (well other than just leaving things how they are, which would be my preference :p)
Clavius XIV
Clavius XIV
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 18:49:00 - [1778]

Edited by: Clavius XIV on 02/11/2005 18:50:25
Edited by: Clavius XIV on 02/11/2005 18:49:03
Originally by: Tiny Carlos
If you look at Drone Interfacing as a skill now, ignoring what it is beeing changed to balance, it's freakishly overpowered. It had some of this effect before but only on really big drone bays, not for every single droneuser.


This is actually an excellent point. Its a good thing that the intial proposal is being adjusted to insure that drone specialists in drone ships don't do less damage/mining than before.

However for ships with less than 100m3 dronebay,this represents a significant dps boost.

In the best case, take the Prophecy, which with the current 50m^3 dronebay can currently launch 2 heavies or 5 mediums. A Prophecy pilot with drone interfacing or drones V does exactly the same max dps currently. (could launch 10 lights, but they do less damage than 5 mediums).

With the changes a prophecy pilot can *double*current maximum possible drone dps.

You also see the incongruities with the drone cruisers. Currently to maximize drone cruiser dps, you want to fill the dronebay while using the most medium drones possible.

For my Arbitrator this means 15 medium drones for maximum damage. With the new drone interfacing, the spare drone space won't generally be used for spare drones, but for heavies. As was pointed out in the blog, this is an effective gain of 2 heavy drones. While I fly the Arbitrator 99.99% of the time, and this would benefit me, I still think that this is a bit whacky (althouth with the 4/4/4 nerf I guess I can look at it as compensation without feeling too guilty).

Of course all cruisers with between 50 and 100m3 of drone space are getting an effective damage boost from this, so perhaps on the cruiser level it will all balance out, but theres a lot of subtle complexities just in the damage department, before you even think about the ewar/logistic capabilities.

I'm not sure how to solve this (well other than just leaving things how they are, which would be my preference :p)
Farjung
Farjung

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 19:16:00 - [1779]

Originally by: El'jonson
Erm nope i didn't.

Before changes 30/100*125 times 15 drones 562.5

After changes 30/100*275 times 5 drones 412.5

125% from standard plus mining drones lvl 5
100% from drone interfacing
50% from Carriers bonus

in order for the Dom to mine the same it needs a total of 375% not 275%


Your maths is borked.

30 (base mining) * 1.25 (mining drones 5) * 2 (drone interfacing 5) * 1.5 (ship skill) * 5 = 562.5 units/cycle.
Farjung
Farjung
Gallente
TAOSP
Band of Brothers

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 19:16:00 - [1780]

Originally by: El'jonson
Erm nope i didn't.

Before changes 30/100*125 times 15 drones 562.5

After changes 30/100*275 times 5 drones 412.5

125% from standard plus mining drones lvl 5
100% from drone interfacing
50% from Carriers bonus

in order for the Dom to mine the same it needs a total of 375% not 275%


Your maths is borked.

30 (base mining) * 1.25 (mining drones 5) * 2 (drone interfacing 5) * 1.5 (ship skill) * 5 = 562.5 units/cycle.
---
Wave of Mutilation 2
Derran
Derran

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 19:28:00 - [1781]

Edited by: Derran on 02/11/2005 19:31:40
Originally by: Alex Harumichi
Edited by: Alex Harumichi on 02/11/2005 18:45:40
Tux, I'm a drone user so it might surprise you to hear this, but:

Could we please have a reduction in heavy drone tracking / effective damage vs. small ships? Along with this, I'd like a boost to light drone effectiveness against those same small ships.

At the moment, heavy drones are *much* too effective vs all ship types (sort of the old missile problem), while light drones are very close to useles (even a swarm of them won't really harm an interceptor).

I'd like some reason to also use light and medium drones, please, instead of just always heavies if I can fit them.



I agree in regards to the tracking for the heavy drones. I'm a Dominix and Scorpion pilot, they are the only battleships I use now. The only reason that makes me use 15 medium drones on my Scorpion (I can control 10) is to make FoFs ineffective against me. Other than that, for the Scorpion, I don't care about the damage overall of them because if the opponent can't shoot me, who cares. But on my dominix, there has been no reason to use light/medium drones. They are just a 'step down' really on a Dominix for me.
Derran
Derran
Minmatar
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 19:28:00 - [1782]

Edited by: Derran on 02/11/2005 19:31:40
Originally by: Alex Harumichi
Edited by: Alex Harumichi on 02/11/2005 18:45:40
Tux, I'm a drone user so it might surprise you to hear this, but:

Could we please have a reduction in heavy drone tracking / effective damage vs. small ships? Along with this, I'd like a boost to light drone effectiveness against those same small ships.

At the moment, heavy drones are *much* too effective vs all ship types (sort of the old missile problem), while light drones are very close to useles (even a swarm of them won't really harm an interceptor).

I'd like some reason to also use light and medium drones, please, instead of just always heavies if I can fit them.



I agree in regards to the tracking for the heavy drones. I'm a Dominix and Scorpion pilot, they are the only battleships I use now. The only reason that makes me use 15 medium drones on my Scorpion (I can control 10) is to make FoFs ineffective against me. Other than that, for the Scorpion, I don't care about the damage overall of them because if the opponent can't shoot me, who cares. But on my dominix, there has been no reason to use light/medium drones. They are just a 'step down' really on a Dominix for me.
Haniblecter Teg
Haniblecter Teg

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 19:38:00 - [1783]

Edited by: Haniblecter Teg on 02/11/2005 19:39:49
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Edited by: Shayla Sh''inlux on 02/11/2005 17:47:28
Edited by: Shayla Sh''inlux on 02/11/2005 17:47:12
Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
So the drone carriers will have their +1 drone controlled per level changed to:

-> +10% drone damage per level
-> +10% drone mining yield per level
-> +10% to drone hitpoints

?



that's one hell of a ship bonus.

That's why I asked.
I see the +10% damage and +10% hitpoints as a bonus that should be one bonus, but the mining bonus seems odd.

Like the post quoted above, Moros definately shouldn't have it and Dominix shouldn't either. In fact, not giving cruisers it as well, would put Scythe and Osprey more in line with each other as a mining ship.

On the other hand, Apoc being the best Deep Core mining ship and second best mining ship in the game feels kinda odd too, doesn't it?




Nothing really seems to make sense to you, maybe you should stop playing such a complex game, maybe go for WoW?



Originally by: Clavius XIV
Edited by: Clavius XIV on 02/11/2005 18:50:25
Edited by: Clavius XIV on 02/11/2005 18:49:03
Originally by: Tiny Carlos
If you look at Drone Interfacing as a skill now, ignoring what it is beeing changed to balance, it's freakishly overpowered. It had some of this effect before but only on really big drone bays, not for every single droneuser.


This is actually an excellent point. Its a good thing that the intial proposal is being adjusted to insure that drone specialists in drone ships don't do less damage/mining than before.

However for ships with less than 100m3 dronebay,this represents a significant dps boost.

In the best case, take the Prophecy, which with the current 50m^3 dronebay can currently launch 2 heavies or 5 mediums. A Prophecy pilot with drone interfacing or drones V does exactly the same max dps currently. (could launch 10 lights, but they do less damage than 5 mediums).

With the changes a prophecy pilot can *double*current maximum possible drone dps.

You also see the incongruities with the drone cruisers. Currently to maximize drone cruiser dps, you want to fill the dronebay while using the most medium drones possible.

For my Arbitrator this means 15 medium drones for maximum damage. With the new drone interfacing, the spare drone space won't generally be used for spare drones, but for heavies. As was pointed out in the blog, this is an effective gain of 2 heavy drones. While I fly the Arbitrator 99.99% of the time, and this would benefit me, I still think that this is a bit whacky (althouth with the 4/4/4 nerf I guess I can look at it as compensation without feeling too guilty).

Of course all cruisers with between 50 and 100m3 of drone space are getting an effective damage boost from this, so perhaps on the cruiser level it will all balance out, but theres a lot of subtle complexities just in the damage department, before you even think about the ewar/logistic capabilities.

I'm not sure how to solve this (well other than just leaving things how they are, which would be my preference :p)




Me thinks they should jsut scrap this ENTIRE idea. Its blowing up in their face.


Friends Forever
Haniblecter Teg
Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 19:38:00 - [1784]

Edited by: Haniblecter Teg on 02/11/2005 19:39:53
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Edited by: Shayla Sh''inlux on 02/11/2005 17:47:28
Edited by: Shayla Sh''inlux on 02/11/2005 17:47:12
Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
So the drone carriers will have their +1 drone controlled per level changed to:

-> +10% drone damage per level
-> +10% drone mining yield per level
-> +10% to drone hitpoints

?



that's one hell of a ship bonus.

That's why I asked.
I see the +10% damage and +10% hitpoints as a bonus that should be one bonus, but the mining bonus seems odd.

Like the post quoted above, Moros definately shouldn't have it and Dominix shouldn't either. In fact, not giving cruisers it as well, would put Scythe and Osprey more in line with each other as a mining ship.

On the other hand, Apoc being the best Deep Core mining ship and second best mining ship in the game feels kinda odd too, doesn't it?




Nothing really seems to make sense to you, maybe you should stop playing such a complex game, maybe go for WoW?



Originally by: Clavius XIV
Edited by: Clavius XIV on 02/11/2005 18:50:25
Edited by: Clavius XIV on 02/11/2005 18:49:03
Originally by: Tiny Carlos
If you look at Drone Interfacing as a skill now, ignoring what it is beeing changed to balance, it's freakishly overpowered. It had some of this effect before but only on really big drone bays, not for every single droneuser.


This is actually an excellent point. Its a good thing that the intial proposal is being adjusted to insure that drone specialists in drone ships don't do less damage/mining than before.

However for ships with less than 100m3 dronebay,this represents a significant dps boost.

In the best case, take the Prophecy, which with the current 50m^3 dronebay can currently launch 2 heavies or 5 mediums. A Prophecy pilot with drone interfacing or drones V does exactly the same max dps currently. (could launch 10 lights, but they do less damage than 5 mediums).

With the changes a prophecy pilot can *double*current maximum possible drone dps.

You also see the incongruities with the drone cruisers. Currently to maximize drone cruiser dps, you want to fill the dronebay while using the most medium drones possible.

For my Arbitrator this means 15 medium drones for maximum damage. With the new drone interfacing, the spare drone space won't generally be used for spare drones, but for heavies. As was pointed out in the blog, this is an effective gain of 2 heavy drones. While I fly the Arbitrator 99.99% of the time, and this would benefit me, I still think that this is a bit whacky (althouth with the 4/4/4 nerf I guess I can look at it as compensation without feeling too guilty).

Of course all cruisers with between 50 and 100m3 of drone space are getting an effective damage boost from this, so perhaps on the cruiser level it will all balance out, but theres a lot of subtle complexities just in the damage department, before you even think about the ewar/logistic capabilities.

I'm not sure how to solve this (well other than just leaving things how they are, which would be my preference :p)




Me thinks they should jsut scrap this ENTIRE idea. Its blowing up in their face.
----------------------------------------
Friends Forever
Derran
Derran

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 19:48:00 - [1785]

Originally by: Clavius XIV


With the changes a prophecy pilot can *double*current maximum possible drone dps.


Did you do the math?

I don't have all the figures in front of me currently but based on what I remember off the top of my head, I'll throw some fairly attainable skill levels out there that average people train train the skills up to then stop unless they are drone specialists.

Using the Prophecy now:

22 base heavy drone damage

Heavy Drone 4
Drone Interfacing 4

I think I am forgetting one more multiplier in there but I'll leave it out of both equations.

So currently you have 2 heavy drones.

22 * 1.2 (Heavy Drones 4) = 26.4 per drone every 2 seconds

Effectively 52.8 every 2 seconds because you can have 2 heavies.

After changes:

22 * 1.2 (Heavy Drones 4) * 1.8 (Drone Interfacing 4) = 47.52

Effectively 47.52 every 2 seconds because after changes, you can only have 1 heavy drone in a Prophecy's drone bay. Around a 5 point reduction for a non drone carrier.
Derran
Derran
Minmatar
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 19:48:00 - [1786]

Originally by: Clavius XIV


With the changes a prophecy pilot can *double*current maximum possible drone dps.


Did you do the math?

I don't have all the figures in front of me currently but based on what I remember off the top of my head, I'll throw some fairly attainable skill levels out there that average people train train the skills up to then stop unless they are drone specialists.

Using the Prophecy now:

22 base heavy drone damage

Heavy Drone 4
Drone Interfacing 4

I think I am forgetting one more multiplier in there but I'll leave it out of both equations.

So currently you have 2 heavy drones.

22 * 1.2 (Heavy Drones 4) = 26.4 per drone every 2 seconds

Effectively 52.8 every 2 seconds because you can have 2 heavies.

After changes:

22 * 1.2 (Heavy Drones 4) * 1.8 (Drone Interfacing 4) = 47.52

Effectively 47.52 every 2 seconds because after changes, you can only have 1 heavy drone in a Prophecy's drone bay. Around a 5 point reduction for a non drone carrier.
Lady Chiron
Lady Chiron

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:00:00 - [1787]

Originally by: Grimpak
ok I'll spam this again:


and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones.



Good point. People use 10-15 mining drones for, well, mining. What happens when they can only use 5 and there are no bonuses for them? They become absolutely useless.
Lady Chiron
Lady Chiron
Caldari
Caldari Provisions

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:00:00 - [1788]

Originally by: Grimpak
ok I'll spam this again:


and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones.



Good point. People use 10-15 mining drones for, well, mining. What happens when they can only use 5 and there are no bonuses for them? They become absolutely useless.
--------------------------------
I am Lady Chiron
Recruiting Officer, Dark Orion SW

Believe in yourself and create your own destiny. Do not fear fate.
keepiru
keepiru

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:04:00 - [1789]

Originally by: Lady Chiron
Originally by: Grimpak
ok I'll spam this again:


and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones.



Good point. People use 10-15 mining drones for, well, mining. What happens when they can only use 5 and there are no bonuses for them? They become absolutely useless.


Sigh. Once again: Drone interfacing gives 20% to damage & 20% to mining yeld.
-------------
Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
keepiru
keepiru
Supernova Security Systems

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:04:00 - [1790]

Originally by: Lady Chiron
Originally by: Grimpak
ok I'll spam this again:


and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones.



Good point. People use 10-15 mining drones for, well, mining. What happens when they can only use 5 and there are no bonuses for them? They become absolutely useless.


Sigh. Once again: Drone interfacing gives 20% to damage & 20% to mining yeld.
----------------

Boost T2 Plate HP!
GC13
GC13

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:05:00 - [1791]

Originally by: Lady Chiron
Originally by: Grimpak
ok I'll spam this again:


and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones.



Good point. People use 10-15 mining drones for, well, mining. What happens when they can only use 5 and there are no bonuses for them? They become absolutely useless.
I could have sworn it said that Drone Interfacing would give the +20% to mining drones, in addition to drone damage. One of us obviously needs to learn how to read better. Since I'm looking at the line in the dev blog (it's in both drone entries, so just pick one) right now, it's obviously not me.
GC13
GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:05:00 - [1792]

Originally by: Lady Chiron
Originally by: Grimpak
ok I'll spam this again:


and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeverybody forgot about mining drones.



Good point. People use 10-15 mining drones for, well, mining. What happens when they can only use 5 and there are no bonuses for them? They become absolutely useless.
I could have sworn it said that Drone Interfacing would give the +20% to mining drones, in addition to drone damage. One of us obviously needs to learn how to read better. Since I'm looking at the line in the dev blog (it's in both drone entries, so just pick one) right now, it's obviously not me.

--

Science and Industry guide plus A Newbie's Guide to Caldari Ships
Eve and RPG blog
Porro
Porro

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:07:00 - [1793]

Thats still 5 drones short. Drone interfacing gives 20% to mining, that would equal 10 mining drones at current state, not 15.

And tuxford didnt forget if you read the devblog he says it felt wrong giving a battleship a mining bonus. I think. :P
Porro
Porro
Reikoku
Band of Brothers

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:07:00 - [1794]

Thats still 5 drones short. Drone interfacing gives 20% to mining, that would equal 10 mining drones at current state, not 15.

And tuxford didnt forget if you read the devblog he says it felt wrong giving a battleship a mining bonus. I think. :P
----------------------------------------------------
(22:01:14) (Sangxianc) you, porro, have madder skillzors than i, sang, do

GC13
GC13

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:11:00 - [1795]

Originally by: Porro
Thats still 5 drones short. Drone interfacing gives 20% to mining, that would equal 10 mining drones at current state, not 15.

And tuxford didnt forget if you read the devblog he says it felt wrong giving a battleship a mining bonus. I think. :P


Originally by: Tuxford (in the new blog entry)
Ships that give 1 drone per ship skill level has been changed to 10% drone damage and in some cases 10% damage (all damage types) and mining yield per level. They also get a bonus to drone hitpoints


So, you know where you can stick it, right?
GC13
GC13
Caldari
Derelik Trading Company

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:11:00 - [1796]

Originally by: Porro
Thats still 5 drones short. Drone interfacing gives 20% to mining, that would equal 10 mining drones at current state, not 15.

And tuxford didnt forget if you read the devblog he says it felt wrong giving a battleship a mining bonus. I think. :P


Originally by: Tuxford (in the new blog entry)
Ships that give 1 drone per ship skill level has been changed to 10% drone damage and in some cases 10% damage (all damage types) and mining yield per level. They also get a bonus to drone hitpoints


So, you know where you can stick it, right?

--

Science and Industry guide plus A Newbie's Guide to Caldari Ships
Eve and RPG blog
Derran
Derran

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:23:00 - [1797]

Originally by: Porro
Thats still 5 drones short. Drone interfacing gives 20% to mining, that would equal 10 mining drones at current state, not 15.

And tuxford didnt forget if you read the devblog he says it felt wrong giving a battleship a mining bonus. I think. :P


I agree with him. Using a battleship to mine would be like using a sports car to haul fish. Nothing is going to stop you from doing it, but that isn't what it is for.
Derran
Derran
Minmatar
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:23:00 - [1798]

Originally by: Porro
Thats still 5 drones short. Drone interfacing gives 20% to mining, that would equal 10 mining drones at current state, not 15.

And tuxford didnt forget if you read the devblog he says it felt wrong giving a battleship a mining bonus. I think. :P


I agree with him. Using a battleship to mine would be like using a sports car to haul fish. Nothing is going to stop you from doing it, but that isn't what it is for.
SengH
SengH

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:26:00 - [1799]

tux after this is it possible to make gang bonuses apply to drones now that they are more hardened? Also any possible sets of gang mods comming for drones?
SengH
SengH
Black Omega Security
GoonSwarm

Take me to the EVE-Online forum thread View author posting habits View only posts by author
Posted - 2005.11.02 20:26:00 - [1800]

tux after this is it possible to make gang bonuses apply to drones now that they are more hardened? Also any possible sets of gang mods comming for drones?
   
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 30 40 50 [60] 70 80 90 100 .. 100 :: one page
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page
 
Copyright © 2006-2024, Chribba - OMG Labs. All Rights Reserved. - perf 0,25s, ref 20240503/0959
EVE-Online™ and Eve imagery © CCP.

bitcoin: 1CHRiBBArqpw5Yz7x5KS2RRtN5ubEn5gF

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.