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Oxandrolone
Bite Me inc Bitten.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:39:00 -
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I just spent a few minutes on general discussion forum, trolls everywhere, locked threads everywhere, tears and people with names like "Lrn2Pl@yn00b" etc
In general I find these forums alot better than other sub-forums and those in game to be more mature.
Of course this is hard to prove statistically or anything since maturity is subjective. In general though we throw alot less excrement around here.
There has been some statistics before about average age of eve players [citation needed] but I wonder if its higher here? The youngest guy in my corp is probably 18ish and he gets plenty of banter at him because of it but for most games he would be the tough older kid :) |
Bamsey Amraa
Unseen Nomads Exiled Ones
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:04:00 -
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Mighty 1976 here :D |
TunaKross
Bite Me inc Bitten.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:07:00 -
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I think the average age in Bitten was 35 last time we checked |
Xtrah
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:28:00 -
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Nice thread, definitely agree with OP. WH forums best forums
Oxandrolone wrote: There has been some statistics before about average age of eve players [citation needed] but I wonder if its higher here? The youngest guy in my corp is probably 18ish and he gets plenty of banter at him because of it but for most games he would be the tough older kid :)
Youngest in NoHo? Ehmm everyone shut up No Holes Barred - www.no-ho.com |
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:32:00 -
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I've met plenty of immature ppl in wormholes, but they have a nasty habit of getting evicted or podded back to kspace. That might be the real reason. http://www.TalocanUnited.com |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:09:00 -
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TunaKross wrote:I think the average age in Bitten was 35 last time we checked
Isn't cybus basically a foetus? Probably drags the average way down |
Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno Malefic Motives
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:13:00 -
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In my opinion yeah, I think the environment that wormholes create: lawlessness, honourable fights, everyone being on their toes constantly etc makes people less likely to be whiny little kids. Highseccers are definitely synonymous to spoilt little kids being sheltered and crying whenever something doesn't go their way, with nullbears not being too far behind.
Now obviously this isn't the rule, and there will be mature and decent players in all kinds of space as well as immature ones, my opinion is just based on my own observations of forums/in-game players. |
Oxandrolone
Bite Me inc Bitten.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:13:00 -
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Nathan Jameson wrote:I've met plenty of immature ppl in wormholes, but they have a nasty habit of getting evicted or podded back to kspace. That might be the real reason.
maybe.
there was one massive troll in narwhals who was a 12 year old little idiot, he basically pushed us over the edge and made us leave the alliance |
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:19:00 -
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Oxandrolone wrote:there was one massive troll in narwhals who was a 12 year old little idiot
Well, it's not Tuna's fault when he was born. http://www.TalocanUnited.com |
Terrorfrodo
Renegade Hobbits for Mordor
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:39:00 -
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Oxandrolone wrote:there was one massive troll in narwhals who was a 12 year old little idiot, he basically pushed us over the edge and made us leave the alliance
A 12-year-old pulled that off all on his own? Must have been quite the genius ;)
I also have the feeling that wormholers tend to be older, although I'm not sure it's always such a great thing. A lot of people even in pvp corps lean towards complacency and lack the drive and bloodlust of the youngsters. And there is always talk about kids and similar useless stuff most older people acquire. Nearing 35 myself and being constrained by RL and job, I wouldn't mind having mostly lazy students around me who are always online and super-motivated and pull me with them when I am tired after a long day at the office. . |
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Jay Joringer
Blackstar Privateer Consortium Enigma Project
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:51:00 -
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We're all teenagers, but we consider ourselves reasonably mature, relatively speaking. The responsibility of having young families while trying to find jobs in an economic downturn has put wizened heads on strapping young shoulders. We all look up to our eldest, however. At 19 years old, this venerable pilot has been an inspiration to us all, sometimes just logging in to hear his sage council, knowing that at our tender years, we still have much to learn.
But we daren't entitle ourselves as 'mature'. At least not until Zeyta's voice breaks. The Enigma Blogject-á |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:51:00 -
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The fact that some of the original WH groups were created from people who saw wormholes a way to escape the drama and childish BS going on in null, etc. and the more concentrated nature of player on player interaction in wormhole space, with people often working together one day then shooting each other in the face the next has helped to minimised some of the less mature content. |
Sandslinger
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:05:00 -
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First off. The OP asked if EvE players are more mature, not if they are older
The first is based on your personality and personal mental growth the second on physical age. Might seem pedantic to point it out, but it's a valid point.
Our alliances youngest player (who posted above) is incidentally also one of the most mature in his approach to the game.
To play wormholes (for one of the larger groups) you have to be able to co-operate with other players. You have to be able to realise that workload is split, and be able to suck it up sometimes even if you feel like you are pulling the hardest.
All rewards take much longer to get then the more instant gratification of 0,0 (both for pvp and for pve) Immature players don't tend to fit into this playstyle)
In general wormholes is much more about social construct and slow rewards then the rest of 0,0. This means that the more immature groups or players tend to fail pretty hard in wormholes. We can usually tell very quickly when our recruitment filter has accepted a player who isn't suited for wormholes.
The point above in regards to wormholes being initially populated by players all wanting to get away from the 0,0 dramalama bullshit is also very valid and at least in Norco wh division the most important factor in why we initially wanted to try wh out.
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Axloth Okiah
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:20:00 -
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Nevermind nullsec. Go check out faction warfare people in "warfare & tactics" subforum. Those guys make us wh-dwellers look like David Attenborough in comparison. W-Space Realtor |
Zara Arran
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:22:00 -
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Sandslinger wrote: The first is based on your personality and personal mental growth the second on physical age. Might seem pedantic to point it out, but it's a valid point.
Our alliances youngest player (who posted above) is incidentally also one of the most mature in his approach to the game.
This.
I have the same experiences as Sandslinger: the youngesters (you know who you are <3) acting more mature than the seniors ;) sometimes you need to remind the seniors that there are underaged people on comms as well.
One of the reasons I think is indeed because of what WH space requires (patience, teamwork, player skills, higher SP, being reliant on others), the WH recruitment process is more stringent than nullsec/lowsec. But, I might be mistaken as I only lived in WHs. -á |
Oxandrolone
Bite Me inc Bitten.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:46:00 -
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Sandslinger wrote: First off. The OP asked if EvE players are more mature, not if they are older
Age and maturity are fairly correlated though, I can see why people often link it together!
Wormholes are becoming more and more accessible, corp bm's, guides on everything, personal CHA's and much more will encourage more people in.
Before tmapping tools it was a massive headache trying to map out a long chain, this took alot of patience and maturity you dont get from the instant-gratification HS / NullBears. |
Jay Joringer
Blackstar Privateer Consortium Enigma Project
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:13:00 -
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Oxandrolone wrote: Age and maturity are fairly correlated though, I can see why people often link it together!
This is true. Generally speaking, 18 year olds have different interests to 40 year olds. Perhaps a more insightful question would be "Does the wormhole environment appeal more to a specific demographic?"
My personal experience is that is does. Most of the groups I have been involved in wormhole space have generally been 25-35 year old, married post-graduates in full-time employment. Bear in mind that this is quite a crude generalisation and of course there will be exceptions, but I believe the bulk of our group fit into this category.
The Enigma Blogject-á |
Brinxter
Bite Me inc Bitten.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:39:00 -
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Jay Joringer wrote: 25-35 year old;
Check, 33
Jay Joringer wrote: Married;
Not even a GF (im open to suggestions tho :P )
Jay Joringer wrote: post-graduates;
Nope
Jay Joringer wrote: full-time employment;
Check
Jay Joringer wrote: Bear in mind that this is quite a crude generalisation and of course there will be exceptions, but I believe the bulk of our group fit into this category.
Yeah, quite crude :) |
Terrorfrodo
Renegade Hobbits for Mordor
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:43:00 -
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Jay Joringer wrote:Most of the groups I have been involved in wormhole space have generally been 25-35 year old, married post-graduates in full-time employment.
The average EVE player is about 30 years old so that would be just the average, nothing special to wormholes. . |
Jay Joringer
Blackstar Privateer Consortium Enigma Project
143
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Posted - 2013.06.03 17:25:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:Jay Joringer wrote:Most of the groups I have been involved in wormhole space have generally been 25-35 year old, married post-graduates in full-time employment. The average EVE player is about 30 years old so that would be just the average, nothing special to wormholes.
So, we can glean from that statement that the typical WH pilot in Eve is... average.
Brinxter, I'm not suggesting the sample size was in any way significant
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grassy 420
Boris Johnson's Love Children
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Posted - 2013.06.03 22:26:00 -
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Oxandrolone wrote:I just spent a few minutes on general discussion forum, trolls everywhere, locked threads everywhere, tears and people with names like "Lrn2Pl@yn00b" etc
In general I find these forums alot better than other sub-forums and those in game to be more mature.
Of course this is hard to prove statistically or anything since maturity is subjective. In general though we throw alot less excrement around here.
There has been some statistics before about average age of eve players [citation needed] but I wonder if its higher here? The youngest guy in my corp is probably 18ish and he gets plenty of banter at him because of it but for most games he would be the tough older kid :)
yes and no! to the OP my name is a great example.. a lot of people think at first glance that i am a childish pot head based on the words and numbers in my char name.. but log on my corps ts3, anyone will tell you that i am one of the chillest person to talk to.
not talking just about eve, life, gf and anything really. i like to keep my mood up tempo and enjoying my time with my corp.. i think most of the people in my corp are in their early 20's. im 22 but there are some people in my corp 2x times my age.
never judge a book by its cover first off, get to know ur corp people. then make your assuptions.
IMO i think that playing wh's is a higher level of play.. i like to compare it to the WNBA(null) to the NBA (WH's) lol! |
MisterAl tt1
Pretenders Inc W-Space
110
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Posted - 2013.06.03 22:43:00 -
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Didn't check, but yeah - wormholes appear to be more civilized, not only on forums. Our recruits have additional troubles getting in if they are less then 20 years old, and have several men 50+. |
Indo Nira
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Polarized.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 22:50:00 -
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MisterAl tt1 wrote:Didn't check, but yeah - wormholes appear to be more civilized, not only on forums. Our recruits have additional troubles getting in if they are less then 20 years old, and have several men 50+.
Civilized on the forums? Maybe more then on general and caod, but there's plenty of trolling and banter going around.... not that it's a bad thing.
I think this thread wasn't necessary. It's pretty much just another 'This demographic is better then the rest'. And you're only better if you act better and not just by saying it |
Matuk Grymwal
Bite Me inc Bitten.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:16:00 -
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Nathan Jameson wrote:Oxandrolone wrote:there was one massive troll in narwhals who was a 12 year old little idiot Well, it's not Tuna's fault when he was born. To be fair Tuna and Cybus only look 12yo. |
No'Wai AmaGawD
Cold Moon Destruction. Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2013.06.05 03:07:00 -
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Worm Hole Dwellers more mature?
I..I don't know how to react...I..yes it is confirmed..I am being..what is this.. |
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload
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Posted - 2013.06.05 04:12:00 -
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"I thank you, Lord, that I am not like these OTHER heathens..." http://www.TalocanUnited.com |
zeyta102
Blackstar Privateer Consortium Enigma Project
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Posted - 2013.06.05 12:30:00 -
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Jay Joringer wrote:We're all teenagers, but we consider ourselves reasonably mature, relatively speaking. The responsibility of having young families while trying to find jobs in an economic downturn has put wizened heads on strapping young shoulders. We all look up to our eldest, however. At 19 years old, this venerable pilot has been an inspiration to us all, sometimes just logging in to hear his sage council, knowing that at our tender years, we still have much to learn.
But we daren't entitle ourselves as 'mature'. At least not until Zeyta's voice breaks.
Just charming and to the op ... You saying I'm old lol |
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