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Jak'ai
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Posted - 2005.11.03 14:38:00 -
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Just a curious thought that occured to me today. Do any of the CCP guys actively RP on their play accounts?
There are some great threads on these boards sometimes on the state of RP, or just RP in general - I was wondering if they are read from an academic standpoint or from a visceral "I know exactly what you're talking about" point of view.
EVE has always struck me as light on the RPG side of MMORPG, despite having one of the most interesting and detailed backstories I've ever seen. Is it maybe because there is no one on the Dev team with a vested, personal interest in RP playstyle? Or is it something else?
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Necolycan
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Posted - 2005.11.03 14:40:00 -
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Pretty hard to roleplay in space because you cannot see each other character. Plus you're in a gooey pod.
And under your mountains of mountain dew cans XD.
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.11.03 14:42:00 -
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Isn't Eve officialy a MMOG, not a MMORPG? ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
DarkPhate Endovari
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Posted - 2005.11.03 14:42:00 -
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Why does the fact you are in a pod limit roleplay? Am I missing something here?
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Necolycan
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Posted - 2005.11.03 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: DarkPhate Endovari Why does the fact you are in a pod limit roleplay? Am I missing something here?
Human interaction? Its pretty hard to RP when you cant talk about your movements and so on.
All you can do is talk.
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DarkPhate Endovari
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Posted - 2005.11.03 14:48:00 -
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Roleplaying a char isn't all about performing actions and emotes. Its about a personality and playstyle, why cant some one roleplay a ruthless pirate or a pirate with a kind heart? Its about actions more than movements which is perfectly easy to put accross using what we have in game.
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Jak'ai
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Posted - 2005.11.03 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Isn't Eve officialy a MMOG, not a MMORPG?
It says MMORPG on the top of my browser when I hit the main page. I've seen the terms used interchangably myself, I'm not sure what would make one "officially" one or the other.
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Sanaen Eydanwadh
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Posted - 2005.11.03 14:53:00 -
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indeed... I don't see how being able to see my (beautifull) corpse would authorize me a "better" roleplay? I guess it limits the visual faces expressions of course, but not that much than in any "classical" rpg (pen'n'paper)... roleplaying isn't about being able to bow in front of someone or doing some funky fantasy dance ;)
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Maelzel Zante
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Posted - 2005.11.03 14:54:00 -
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This has deviated from your original questions about the devs (which I obviously can't answer not being a dev). With regard to the role-playing issue, there are those who are heavy role players, you just have to find their channels in-game.
In general though, yes, I agree there isn't much of it in day-to-day operations out in the field mining, running missions and such. You have to go looking for it, it rarely comes looking for you.
As for the grounds that best facilitate role playing (whether your in person as an avatar or in a pod) it's only limited by the imagination (or lack thereof) of the player in question.
In short, ask around and see if you can't find a channel or two that can better satiate your need to roleplay in-game.
Remember Kyonoke Pit
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Remedial
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Posted - 2005.11.03 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: DarkPhate Endovari Roleplaying a char isn't all about performing actions and emotes. Its about a personality and playstyle, why cant some one roleplay a ruthless pirate or a pirate with a kind heart? Its about actions more than movements which is perfectly easy to put accross using what we have in game.
Unlike persistant worlds in games like Neverwinter Nights, the vast majority of Eve players regularly break the "suspension of disbelief" that is required to actually roleplay. If you've ever seen people reply to a GM roleplaying a pirate, Amarr slaver, Minmatar freedom fighter, or Gallente merchant in local, you'd realize that it's an uphill battle trying to get any semblance of RP here. One person or small corp roleplaying by themselves when everybody else is yelling LOL PWND and talking about their favorite pokemon makes for a crappy RP experience.
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Redundancy
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Posted - 2005.11.03 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Isn't Eve officialy a MMOG, not a MMORPG?
Historically true, to the best of my knowledge. It was changed more recently on the main page of Eve, possibly because people expect every MMOG to be called a MMORPG now.
I don't personally roleplay ingame, and never have in a MMOG because I dislike trying to roleplay around people who aren't interested in it, which almost inevitably happens at some point. I have a lot of respect for people who can enjoy roleplaying despite those problems though [;)].
There are devs who used to roleplay on their main accounts, but I don't know if they still do or not.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.11.03 15:28:00 -
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No, they just speak a strange language. We have a roleplay alliance of over 300 people (in fact it might be around 400 now), and we fight other roleplayers (CVA et al and pals) and we attack people who buy and sell slaves and have no conception of Roleplay, but you'd be surprised how many do. Everyone in EVE roleplays, not many of them realise it.
As for dev's roleplaying... hehe, lets have some guesses at what you think they all would roleplay if they did eh? :) -
Just a simple warrior.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.11.03 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Remedial
Originally by: DarkPhate Endovari Roleplaying a char isn't all about performing actions and emotes. Its about a personality and playstyle, why cant some one roleplay a ruthless pirate or a pirate with a kind heart? Its about actions more than movements which is perfectly easy to put accross using what we have in game.
Unlike persistant worlds in games like Neverwinter Nights, the vast majority of Eve players regularly break the "suspension of disbelief" that is required to actually roleplay. If you've ever seen people reply to a GM roleplaying a pirate, Amarr slaver, Minmatar freedom fighter, or Gallente merchant in local, you'd realize that it's an uphill battle trying to get any semblance of RP here. One person or small corp roleplaying by themselves when everybody else is yelling LOL PWND and talking about their favorite pokemon makes for a crappy RP experience.
Actually it's great fun replying to crap like that with "What is this Pokemon of which you speak, is it the latest craze on Caldari planets?"
And then when they insult you for taking roleplaying too seriously, the fun really starts...
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.03 15:40:00 -
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There are quite a few roleplayers. You just have to look (hint, try the roleplay channels). - Proud member of the [23].
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.11.03 15:42:00 -
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I just happen to have an original Eve CD in my hand (sad huh? especially at work!) and it says
Quote: A MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME
Bold is as appears.
In reply to Rodj's comment, I tent to RP around RP'rs, simply because I enjoy it. However, I can also fully understand the earlier comment about the frustration of trying to RP around people who aren't interested in it.
As to character motivation though, I play Avon to the character I envisioned for him, although I may not always be 'in character'. Not sure if that makes much sense to some, but I am sure others will know what I am getting at. ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.11.03 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Actually it's great fun replying to crap like that with "What is this Pokemon of which you speak, is it the latest craze on Caldari planets?"
And then when they insult you for taking roleplaying too seriously, the fun really starts...
I think I have more fun mocking idiots in character then anything else.
And I heard the noise of thunder. And I looked and behold: a pale horse. And his name, that sat on him, was Death. And Hell followed with him |
DarkPhate Endovari
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Posted - 2005.11.03 15:58:00 -
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If some one talks to me out of character I will reply out of character but if they approach me acting as a character then I find it only polite to reply as such rather than become one of those spoiling it for others talking about pokemon. At some point or other in every game every one has roleplayed to some extent. You might not realise it or it might not have been intended but I can safely say thats true. But to go over another point if people are talking about real world stuff I don't even think that breaks the roleplay really, they are just discussing something you dont understand, if you follow me? Meh I am rambling now but I think I know what I mean... I think.
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2005.11.03 18:08:00 -
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Personally, i think eve is RPG lite cause people cant pretend they are elves.
Other then that, i think there is more RP'n then you think. Just because someone doesnt talk weird doesnt mean they dont RP. Every CEO is RP'n a CEO right? Your RP'n a starship captain stuck in a pod just by playing the game.
I dont know many CEOs or starship captains in RL.
You can have a very narrow view of RP'n and say eve has very little of it because few care about talking about RL in-game, or you can have a very broad view of RP'n and think that most people RP weither they know it or not. _______________________________________________
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.11.03 18:44:00 -
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EVE is RPG lite because even RPers need money. In WoW, you can be a cheap, broke Night-Elf priest that curses orcs all day.
Also, there's the question of different types of roleplay. I roleplay all the time in EVE. In fact, I probably roleplay every single minute I'm online. I play the role of Raem Civrie, a member of a particularly immoral and evil group. Every now and then, I roleplay as Raem Civrie, a Caldari citizen that just plain dislikes the Minmatar. Very occasionally, I roleplay as Raem Civrie, loan shark and traveling trader. ---
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Jin Entres
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Posted - 2005.11.03 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Redundancy
There are devs who used to roleplay on their main accounts, but I don't know if they still do or not.
I would roleplay a godjove, too if I could.
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2005.11.03 19:01:00 -
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Dont we roleplay all day while playing? BlogÖ |
Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.11.03 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 03/11/2005 19:26:26 Well there's little of the
*shakes head in disgust at the slaver with his 'property' and turns his back to walk out the door decisively*
or
*prepares a dish of fried fish with taters for Raem to welcome him home from his loan shark buisiness*
-type of RP going on in Eve.
People tend to adapt their RP to what fits in the environment, and emotes don't fit that well in Eve really, at least not the very descriptive ones you see in alot of medieval-fantasy type games.
However, I roleplay a person in this game every day. Most of what I post is definately ooc, but some is tiled to the IC level, and alot of nearly all of my ingame actions can be construed as roleplay or not according to how one would want to see it.
You dont need to be an escaped slace or ruthless buisinessman to roleplay in Eve. Being a corporate fighterpilot as some type of light roleplay can be enough without breaking the immersion when you meet a 'real' roleplayer.
You can just as well model your roleplay angle on player constructed storylines as CCP-privided ones. If you counjt both equal, we are indeed all roleplayers to some extent in Eve, which is pretty unique and could well make eve very RP heavy when seen in that light. _______________________________________________
Power to the players !
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Arrozal Zipoetes
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Posted - 2005.11.03 19:27:00 -
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I can't not RP for most games I play unless they're FPS.
That's what I like the most about MMORPG's, the player interaction and the RP possiblities there are.
I’m the type of guy that likes to roam around, I’m never in one place, I roam from town to town |
Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2005.11.03 20:27:00 -
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I'm actually Role Playing a Dev right now, here I'm supposed to be working, instead I'm avoiding my supervisor and posting on the forums.
I want to be a God Like Jove!
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Recog
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Posted - 2005.11.03 20:42:00 -
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Where in space, flying ships, doesnt mean that we all roleplay??
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Oveur
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Posted - 2005.11.03 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Jak'ai Just a curious thought that occured to me today. Do any of the CCP guys actively RP on their play accounts?
There are some great threads on these boards sometimes on the state of RP, or just RP in general - I was wondering if they are read from an academic standpoint or from a visceral "I know exactly what you're talking about" point of view.
EVE has always struck me as light on the RPG side of MMORPG, despite having one of the most interesting and detailed backstories I've ever seen. Is it maybe because there is no one on the Dev team with a vested, personal interest in RP playstyle? Or is it something else?
Yarr
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.03 21:30:00 -
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------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
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CmdrRat
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Posted - 2005.11.03 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Yarr
Oveur, the one word RPer
Yarrrbbq
oh, 2 words. _ ____ _______ _________________________________________________________
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Oveur
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Posted - 2005.11.03 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01 Dont we roleplay all day while playing?
This exact question came up a long time ago. My personal opinion is that I am always roleplaying ingame, because I roleplay myself.
It's a sci-fi world, it has toasters which burn your toast, you need to get a new beer now and then and you also have to go to the toilet.
Surely, you can take it even further and be a loyalist or radical showing allegiance to a certain faction and as a result hate all X by nature and kill all Y by nature because this is the setting, rules and values you as a person decide to abide to.
Thus, I believe you are always roleplaying in EVE simply because the setting allows it. You don't have to be on TS and modify your voice, like the 11 year old RP'ing a huge orc and he hasn't even hit puberty yet would have to to "hardore" RP his person (I'm still laughing).
In my case, I decided I wanted my own empire and if anything, wanted to get rid of the Empires. I therefore had no problem RP'ing (killing) with empire loyalist or working with anti-empire corporations or alliances, cause it was simply natural - no voice modification required
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.11.03 21:48:00 -
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An anarchist! ;o ------------- Where are the named 800mm Plates and Mega Ions, CCP?
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