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Oraac Ensor
700
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Posted - 2016.05.07 12:29:09 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:Djreversal Kahoudi wrote:looking forward to the update as well.. Just curious, does he ever pop on to post an update on how things are moving along? Nope. Never that I've seen. It will be done when it's done and he'll let us know. Exactly.
The man will post his work when it's finished.
No amount of "we're waiting" posts will hurry that process.
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Jack of Hearts
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.05.08 08:46:49 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote: No amount of "we're waiting" posts will hurry that process.
Right ... thats pure BS, but OK.
If 75.000 people would post "we are waiting" that would encourage him for sure. If 1.000.000 people would post he for sure would be so happy about the stunning amount of people liking is app, that he would finish it this night.
So fyou and your "no amount". |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2556
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Posted - 2016.05.08 09:53:45 -
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Jack of Hearts wrote:If 75.000 people would post "we are waiting" that would encourage him for sure. If 1.000.000 people would post he for sure would be so happy about the stunning amount of people liking is app, that he would finish it this night.
So fyou and your "no amount".
This is kind of a useless discussion, but seriously, different things motivate different people. If I got that kind of impatient outcry I'd stuff the whole thing and let one of the teeming masses step up and sort it out. For me, it's nice to be appreciated but only up to the point that it's not a huge demand hanging over my head. That just breeds resentment.
Luckily I'm not the one responsible for the project.
Anyhow, if the past is any indication, Gripen will get it done. When this thread opened 4.5 years ago EFT hadn't been updated in months, Pyfa was taking off, and there was no assurance at all that EFT was going to be continued in any form. Then, boom, we got an update. Given the massive scope of the changes at hand I wouldn't be shocked if this one takes quite some time as well. I'm hoping it gets done soon but I'll damn well appreciate it when it comes out even if it takes a year. |
Moac Tor
Cyber Core Stain Confederation
511
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Posted - 2016.05.08 10:47:42 -
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Jack of Hearts wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote: No amount of "we're waiting" posts will hurry that process.
Right ... thats pure BS, but OK. If 75.000 people would post "we are waiting" that would encourage him for sure. If 1.000.000 people would post he for sure would be so happy about the stunning amount of people liking is app, that he would finish it this night. So fyou and your "no amount". I'm sure Gripen knows that players will be eagerly awaiting an update, there is no need to post 7500 times and come of looking like a petulant child. It will be done when it's done and until then just use pyfa or live without.
Modulated ECM Effects
An Alternative to Skill Trading
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sake Orti
High Rollers
0
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Posted - 2016.05.08 12:13:39 -
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Jack of Hearts wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote: No amount of "we're waiting" posts will hurry that process.
Right ... thats pure BS, but OK. If 75.000 people would post "we are waiting" that would encourage him for sure. If 1.000.000 people would post he for sure would be so happy about the stunning amount of people liking is app, that he would finish it this night. So fyou and your "no amount".
why don't you put in the hard work you spoilt little brat |
Sable Blitzmann
Dirt 'n' Glitter Local Is Primary
182
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Posted - 2016.05.08 16:32:40 -
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sake Orti wrote:Jack of Hearts wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote: No amount of "we're waiting" posts will hurry that process.
Right ... thats pure BS, but OK. If 75.000 people would post "we are waiting" that would encourage him for sure. If 1.000.000 people would post he for sure would be so happy about the stunning amount of people liking is app, that he would finish it this night. So fyou and your "no amount". why don't you put in the hard work you spoilt little brat
If only EFT was open source. That's the excuse I make when I'm late or sluggish updating pyfa haha |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
9417
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Posted - 2016.05.08 18:07:34 -
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Plsssss give us EFT! I imagine you're working hard on it, and it takes time, but plssss :P
I can't deal with pyfa!!! |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2561
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Posted - 2016.05.08 21:33:52 -
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Sable Blitzmann wrote:If only EFT was open source. That's the excuse I make when I'm late or sluggish updating pyfa haha
Heh. For the record, I do love your work on Pyfa as well. I just... can't get into it the same way. With Zifrian and Desmont McCallock both stepping down from their projects and Battleclinic disappearing there are precious few people left willing to take on these huge hobby-related projects. Nothing but respect that you're still in the game. |
Sable Blitzmann
Dirt 'n' Glitter Local Is Primary
182
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Posted - 2016.05.09 01:25:58 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:Sable Blitzmann wrote:If only EFT was open source. That's the excuse I make when I'm late or sluggish updating pyfa haha Heh. For the record, I do love your work on Pyfa as well. I just... can't get into it the same way. With Zifrian and Desmont McCallock both stepping down from their projects and Battleclinic disappearing there are precious few people left willing to take on these huge hobby-related projects. Nothing but respect that you're still in the game.
Hey, everyone has their preferences. =) |
Toppent
BERLOGA 3.0
0
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Posted - 2016.05.09 20:04:54 -
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Sable Blitzmann wrote:Zhilia Mann wrote:Sable Blitzmann wrote:If only EFT was open source. That's the excuse I make when I'm late or sluggish updating pyfa haha Heh. For the record, I do love your work on Pyfa as well. I just... can't get into it the same way. With Zifrian and Desmont McCallock both stepping down from their projects and Battleclinic disappearing there are precious few people left willing to take on these huge hobby-related projects. Nothing but respect that you're still in the game. Hey, everyone has their preferences. =) Would it be hard to copy EFT UI/Main features in PYFA? |
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Primary This Rifter
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
1178
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Posted - 2016.05.09 20:15:04 -
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Yes, it would be. |
Draciste
Everyone vs Everything THE R0NIN
36
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Posted - 2016.05.10 04:16:21 -
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Buhhdust Princess wrote:Plsssss give us EFT! I imagine you're working hard on it, and it takes time, but plssss :P
I can't deal with pyfa!!!
+1
https://twitter.com/Draciste
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David Draike
Room for Improvement Limited Expectations
0
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Posted - 2016.05.10 08:39:25 -
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Jack of Hearts wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote: No amount of "we're waiting" posts will hurry that process.
Right ... thats pure BS, but OK. If 75.000 people would post "we are waiting" that would encourage him for sure. If 1.000.000 people would post he for sure would be so happy about the stunning amount of people liking is app, that he would finish it this night. So fyou and your "no amount".
I bet he very well knows how many people like his software because most likely he has the download statistics. |
Tekumze Wolf
30plus Fidelas Constans
7
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Posted - 2016.05.10 12:38:29 -
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Being employed in software development all I can say is:
Quite often those people wanting the product ASAP (read "yesterday") are the first to moan about any bugs that happen due to rushing and "corners being cut". |
Jack of Hearts
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.05.10 18:45:55 -
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Tekumze Wolf wrote:Being employed in software development all I can say is:
Quite often those people wanting the product ASAP (read "yesterday") are the first to moan about any bugs that happen due to rushing and "corners being cut".
Knowing people in the software development most people ship the product as soon as the launcher is working and fix bugs later. |
Hawke Frost
83
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Posted - 2016.05.11 03:49:02 -
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Jack of Hearts wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote: No amount of "we're waiting" posts will hurry that process.
Right ... thats pure BS, but OK. If 75.000 people would post "we are waiting" that would encourage him for sure. If 1.000.000 people would post he for sure would be so happy about the stunning amount of people liking is app, that he would finish it this night. So fyou and your "no amount".
You're so na+»ve and wrong it's not even funny. After many years of keeping something like this up to date, with all the nonsense, changing updates and "why isn't it done yet" replies he's probably this close to going "**** it, why bother" (see EVEmon) and the only reason he keeps doing it because he feels an obligation. What he doesn't need is a bunch of entitled 5 year olds whining about why they haven't gotten their cookie yet.
It's very simple but I'll explain it slowly: It's normal for CCP to implement changes fairly shortly after an update and the bigger, and more extensive, the update the bigger the changes are going to be. As such it doesn't make much sense to adapt it all to the initial release on an update but he'll wait till it's all settled down a bit and then he'll do it. On top the normal stuff this updates requires a whole lot of rewriting because it's not just some juggling with database numbers so there's a lot more effort involved which may require more effort than he's really willing (or capable) to put in.
In short: HTFU
It's done when it's done. |
Tekumze Wolf
30plus Fidelas Constans
9
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Posted - 2016.05.11 08:35:31 -
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Jack of Hearts wrote:Knowing people in the software development most people ship the product as soon as the launcher is working and fix bugs later. In companies developers don't ship the product. They only develop it.
In most cases you can't blame the developers for being pushed with deadlines they know will make them cut corners.
There is a slight disconnect between development and management. That disconnect is perfectly exemplified by some posts above demanding the new EFT yesterday. |
Ayumi Yamasaki
Heroes Of Blood
0
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Posted - 2016.05.12 04:48:38 -
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Any plans to publish to source code? |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2567
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Posted - 2016.05.12 05:26:59 -
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Ayumi Yamasaki wrote:Any plans to publish to source code?
From the FAQ that comes with EFT:
Quote:Q: Is the EFT open source? A: It isn't and not planned to be. |
Tairak Mansur
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.05.12 23:22:34 -
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Griphen will update ... he must update |
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Ori Shinichi
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.05.13 11:12:46 -
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Brilliant stuff!! |
Hope Anna Prayer
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.05.14 05:48:37 -
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Both download links broken. |
Postman
EVE Postal Service
21
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Posted - 2016.05.14 06:36:00 -
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Hope Anna Prayer wrote:Both download links broken. The mirror is down yes. But the JunoCloud version still works, even though it's slow as a bucket filled with .... |
joehillbilly
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2016.05.14 08:48:02 -
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I read all of this diatribe and become disappointed in the human race.
This is a more appropriate conversation with Gripen
Thank you Gripen! You make and update an exceptionally useful tool for eve. I personally benefit from and appreciate your hard work. I look forward to any updates you can make time to deliver.
For the rest of you whiners. You should type this in as well. "I am a big boy/girl, and understand that I may have to wait, and make due, on my own, until you are able to maintain the integrity of this excellent product."
Holy crap. This guy gives us amazing for nothing..........................
We should all be sending him isk. As a matter of fact, i will.
Ingrates!!!!! |
Vain Eldritch
State War Academy Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2016.05.14 16:05:45 -
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Much love and trans hugs for you.
Androgynous Caldari Cross-dresser
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Auron Orlenard
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
2
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Posted - 2016.05.15 03:14:45 -
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Love the new work on citadel fitting tool, saves alot of work. No bugs so far. |
Gripen
2363
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Posted - 2016.05.15 22:36:57 -
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New version is available. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2575
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Posted - 2016.05.15 22:40:44 -
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Gripen wrote:New version is available.
And thanks again. |
MrYogi Lee
WATAHA.
2
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Posted - 2016.05.15 22:59:51 -
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Gripen wrote:New version is available.
Thx :) |
Madbuster73
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
151
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Posted - 2016.05.15 23:32:10 -
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Thanks again Gripen!!!
You make me a happy panda! |
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