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Armor Jack
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Posted - 2005.11.04 09:08:00 -
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Edited by: Armor Jack on 04/11/2005 09:13:29 http://homepage.mac.com/stevesherrick/ghosthunters/iMovieTheater59.html
pretty cool vid, this is awesome. _________________________________________________ The only real Caldarian is born a Caldarian, dawg... |
Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2005.11.04 22:35:00 -
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One of the more interesting ghost captures, yes.
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Kaemonn
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Posted - 2005.11.04 23:50:00 -
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.05 00:04:00 -
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Looks more like an image caused by objects just in the right positions... not really a ghost.
The fact that the 2 on the box shines "through" the "ghost" in the thermal image makes it obvious. - Proud member of the [23].
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Obwi Stefano
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Posted - 2005.11.05 00:38:00 -
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That bald guy looked like Michael Chiklis(the actor from the shield tv series)
The earth is 98% full, please delete anything you can
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Recog
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Posted - 2005.11.05 02:10:00 -
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Ghost Hunters on Sci-Fi every wednesday! I love that show, and saw that episode. Cool stuff on that show, cant wait for next season of it though ;(
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Confussled Bugger
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Posted - 2005.11.05 02:22:00 -
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That ghost is now the Al Pachino of the ghost world now I bet. He's kickin' it up in heaven now, trashing hotel rooms and becomin a coke addict. --------------
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Firstname Lastname
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Posted - 2005.11.05 04:57:00 -
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Because primetime TV reality shows never lie or make anything up no way no how.
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Nebulous
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Posted - 2005.11.05 08:17:00 -
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Its not a real ghost, you know why? cos they dont exist for god sake, i find it tottaly ridiculous that fully grown adults believe in such things, ghost are something that children believe in like elves,tooth fairy,father christmas and so on. Lol get a grip on yourselves people
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.11.05 09:31:00 -
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It takes advantage of the fact that infrared light is reflected by things like windows, rather than passing through them (although you won't see your reflection in a mirror with a thermal camera, which is also quite strange!). Most people don't realise this. So, for example, record visual/infrared movie looking out of a window, the IR will have your reflection like a mirror, the visual will not.
Anyway, it's obviously a fake!
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Armor Jack
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Posted - 2005.11.05 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: babyblue
It takes advantage of the fact that infrared light is reflected by things like windows, rather than passing through them (although you won't see your reflection in a mirror with a thermal camera, which is also quite strange!). Most people don't realise this. So, for example, record visual/infrared movie looking out of a window, the IR will have your reflection like a mirror, the visual will not.
Anyway, it's obviously a fake!
Actualy you do see you're reflection in a mirror on thermal camera.
other vids about them analyzing the footage.
[url=http://homepage.mac.com/stevesherrick/ghosthunters/iMovieTheater60.html]link[/url]
and the debunking of the figure [url=http://homepage.mac.com/stevesherrick/ghosthunters/iMovieTheater61.html]link[/url]
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Imaran
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Posted - 2005.11.05 12:13:00 -
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/me pulls the covers up over his eyes...
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.11.05 13:14:00 -
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Nope, there is no such thing as ghost. I have never personally see one before and have been living for ages ----------------
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.11.05 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Nope, there is no such thing as ghost. I have never personally see one before and have been living for ages
What the man said ^^
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DrakeZakharov
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Posted - 2005.11.05 15:53:00 -
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It just looks like a hoax to me. Aside from the fact its taken from teh sci-fi channel, which is hardly reknown for its scientific accuracy, the whole idea is kind farcical.
Why should ghosts, if they exist at all, show up in a thermal image ?
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Recog
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Posted - 2005.11.05 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Recog on 05/11/2005 16:19:45
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/11/2005 13:36:51 Nope, there is no such thing as ghost. I have never personally seen one before and have been living for ages
Well just because YOU havent seen anything doesnt mean they do not exist.
I do believe this show - Anyways 95% of the time they dont find anything
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.05 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Recog Edited by: Recog on 05/11/2005 16:19:45
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/11/2005 13:36:51 Nope, there is no such thing as ghost. I have never personally seen one before and have been living for ages
Well just because YOU havent seen anything doesnt mean they do not exist.
Where did you leave your humour implant?
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Benilopax
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Posted - 2005.11.05 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Benilopax on 05/11/2005 17:45:37 Science more than allows the existence of ghosts.
Every human brain emits a field of energy that has been recorded existing outside a body.
Especially after death.
These fields can hang around in certain places for some time. They can effect instruments and other peoples brain fields which is why they can be seen by some.
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My grandfather
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Posted - 2005.11.05 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Benilopax Edited by: Benilopax on 05/11/2005 17:45:37 Science more than allows the existence of ghosts.
Every human brain emits a field of energy that has been recorded existing outside a body.
Especially after death.
These fields can hang around in certain places for some time. They can effect instruments and other peoples brain fields which is why they can be seen by some.
Correct on you first point, but the rest isn't. Everyones brain emits a weak electromagnetic signal, called brain waves. You could call this a 'field of energy', yes, but it only stretches about 2.5cm or an inch out from you skull. It can be detected, but is not nearly strong enough to make any interactions. It's only a side-effect of the electrical processes in your brain. The moment you die, the electric processes die too, thus not leaving brainwaves anymore. And because basicly it's radiation, it doesn't hang around certain places, it just dissipates and becomes 0 once you leave the place.
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Captin ShadowHawk
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Posted - 2005.11.05 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Captin ShadowHawk on 05/11/2005 17:58:55 Edited by: Captin ShadowHawk on 05/11/2005 17:58:42
Originally by: Benilopax Edited by: Benilopax on 05/11/2005 17:45:37 Science more than allows the existence of ghosts.
Every human brain emits a field of energy that has been recorded existing outside a body.
Especially after death.
These fields can hang around in certain places for some time. They can effect instruments and other peoples brain fields which is why they can be seen by some.
My frozen Corps realeses this field when I slap the desk..noooo.... not again!
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.11.05 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/11/2005 13:36:51 Nope, there is no such thing as ghost. I have never personally seen one before and have been living for ages
Lack of proof isn't disproof, didn't any of you take a basic logic class? ^^
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Benilopax
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Posted - 2005.11.05 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: My grandfather
Originally by: Benilopax Edited by: Benilopax on 05/11/2005 17:45:37 Science more than allows the existence of ghosts.
Every human brain emits a field of energy that has been recorded existing outside a body.
Especially after death.
These fields can hang around in certain places for some time. They can effect instruments and other peoples brain fields which is why they can be seen by some.
Correct on you first point, but the rest isn't. Everyones brain emits a weak electromagnetic signal, called brain waves. You could call this a 'field of energy', yes, but it only stretches about 2.5cm or an inch out from you skull. It can be detected, but is not nearly strong enough to make any interactions. It's only a side-effect of the electrical processes in your brain. The moment you die, the electric processes die too, thus not leaving brainwaves anymore. And because basicly it's radiation, it doesn't hang around certain places, it just dissipates and becomes 0 once you leave the place.
I'm afraid scientific evidence disproves you theory. The electro magnetic energy can delocalise from the brain once activity ceases. The explination put foward by scientists is that particles are also created by the brain along the lines of subatomic particle theory.
A particle like glueons (a lighthearted name for particles transferred in order to cause the process of gravitational attraction) can be formed easily. Although it is far beyond our current knowledge of physics.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.11.05 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Benilopax
A particle like glueons (a lighthearted name for particles transferred in order to cause the process of gravitational attraction) can be formed easily. Although it is far beyond our current knowledge of physics.
You're mixing up your theoretical subatomic particles ^^. That's the Graviton. The Gluon is the theoretical force carrier of the Strong Force which binds atoms together into molecules and only acts over a distance of 10^-15m, which is not gravity.
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Benilopax
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Posted - 2005.11.05 18:24:00 -
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Edited by: Benilopax on 05/11/2005 18:24:30 my apologies you are right. However the rest of the statement is correct.
Btw this lingering effect should last a few minutes. But for some reason this effect last much longer.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.11.05 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Benilopax Edited by: Benilopax on 05/11/2005 18:24:30 my apologies you are right. However the rest of the statement is correct.
Btw this lingering effect should last a few minutes. But for some reason this effect last much longer.
If you mean the heat staying, that's entirely dependant on materials, colours, duration of contact etc. The paint can also effect the rate of heat radiation. Also, their evidence only shows it stayed for about 10 seconds because that's all the footage of it they got. Given that a handprint made with a few seconds touch lasted a fairly long time on that, it's not exactly a stretch of the imagination.
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Burga Galti
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Posted - 2005.11.05 19:17:00 -
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I can prove this is a fake.
This was shown on the Sci-Fi channel. Sci-Fi si short for Science Fiction. Fiction is things which aren't real. Ergo, this video is a fake. **************** Pain is a way of knowing yourself; Death is the ultimate in self-discovery.
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Benilopax
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Posted - 2005.11.05 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Benilopax Edited by: Benilopax on 05/11/2005 18:24:30 my apologies you are right. However the rest of the statement is correct.
Btw this lingering effect should last a few minutes. But for some reason this effect last much longer.
If you mean the heat staying, that's entirely dependant on materials, colours, duration of contact etc. The paint can also effect the rate of heat radiation. Also, their evidence only shows it stayed for about 10 seconds because that's all the footage of it they got. Given that a handprint made with a few seconds touch lasted a fairly long time on that, it's not exactly a stretch of the imagination.
no not the thermal signature apologies for not explaining myself the image is by the by the em signature in general last a few minutes.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.11.05 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/11/2005 20:14:17 Well, personally living in an old mansion on the hill (for a few days) does get my imagination goes wild sometimes, but other than that, the only spooks that I have seen are mainly human beings. To believe in spirits and the supernaturals is a must for a person to believe in the divine. I choose not to believe in either and therefore everything must have an explantion. It is only that we currently do not understand something does not make it supernatural.
Besides, where I have come from, a simple picture of ghosts can sometimes be captured by a normal camera. Some lucky peeps that have done so have seen a shadowed or blurred image of a person standing besides them on their pictures before. Strangely, some of them got the chills in their lives and some of them just fell sick and die shortly. Many stories they say, perhaps they were all pure coincidence? I am sure if there were spirits/ghosts, they are more likely to be afraid of you than you being afraid of them.
Just my thoughts. ----------------
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.06 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Nope, there is no such thing as ghost. I have never personally seen one before and have been living for ages
Lack of proof isn't disproof, didn't any of you take a basic logic class?
Firstly ... she was telling a joke. Don't any of you people recognise a joke when you see one?
Secondly ... claims require evidence. Lack of evidence is sufficient reason not to believe. Nobody's ever disproved the existence of Zeus, Ares, Athena and all the other Greek mob ... you believe in those? Thought not.
Anyone wanting to claim that such things as ghosts exist - an outlandish theory - must provide heavy and compelling evidence in order to overturn accepted wisdom that they don't. Didn't YOU take a basic logic class?
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.11.06 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 06/11/2005 14:42:12
Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 05/11/2005 18:17:25
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/11/2005 13:36:51 Nope, there is no such thing as ghost. I have never personally seen one before and have been living for ages
Lack of proof isn't disproof, didn't any of you take a basic logic class? ^^
EDIT: You know, it's entirely possible he was leaning on the locker just prior to filming it and forgot about it. The locker could have just been retaining heat. The number 2 was shown to retain heat longer, which indicates that it is made of a material that has a higher specific heat capacity or that it is darker in colour (absorbs heat easier and re-emits it easier). The figure appearing to be looking down could just be the heat disspating from certain areas or conducting across the metal. It's only natural to look for signs of human life in non-living phenomena and it's no surprise that the thermal afterimage caused by the guy leaning on the locker and moving around a little would look humanoid and possibly like another guy. The 2 being warm just goes to further show that it was likely conductive heat as dark objects radiate stored heat better. Also, the image faded. People do not dissipate :p.
What I want to know is why they taped it, then looked at it later and noticed the guy, then went back down to see if he was still there (which he wasn't) when they later showed that the thermal video camera they used had a screen for viewing as it recorded. Surely they would have noticed it before.
Did you even watch the episode?
Jay and Grant saw the image during the walkthrough.
The locker was a green color, the 2 was a stencil, and white paint was used.
I'd have to watch the episode again to see, but I'd think it's a fake if the "ghost" image/reflection was contained within the perimeter of the locker. If the thermal image of the soldier overlapped the outer edges of the locker, this would not be a reflection, or conducted heat.
The number 2 was on the guys shoulder, I think the soldiers head would be above the top edge of the locker. So it can't be a simple reflection/heat conduction hoax.
It could still be a hoax, but not what some of you are thinking...
I've got that episode of GhostHunters on my TIVO, I'll have to watch it again...
I just watched the footage again.
The "ghost" image is totally on the surface of the locker. Making that "ghost" smaller in scale than a normal human.
I keep looking at the footage, and it looks like the "ghost" is moving his head down. Maybe it's just an optical illusion, but his head seems to be moving to me...
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