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Liltha
Lost My Way Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.06.09 05:36:00 -
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I took a newish character I had and set it up to train for Tengu and Cerberus, the time to train was 50 and 55 days respectively, so for new players the extra time to train into a hac is not that onerous.
I believe training for the cerberus after training for the tengu involved about 24 days so you might have to wait a bit if you trained into the tengu already, luckily many of the other skills will still hold you in good stead in the cerberus and it is perfectly capable of running 3/10 and 4/10 with ease. |
Liltha
Lost My Way Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.06.09 05:44:00 -
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Copper Rei wrote: That's only because the reward is insane.
The best item you could get from a 4/10 in blood space was a c-type med armor repper that sold for 160 mil.
Maybe a energized c-type adaptive but that depended on the markets for which was worth more at the time.
Hardly insane.
Step into l-sec and run a 7/10 and you can get a nice 1 bil drop.
The rewards from escelations can easily be far greater than any 4/10 DED.
Incursions pay better. Militia pays better.
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So you chose one of the lowest paying 4/10s to make your point? How about we look at the other end of the spectrum, in Gurista 4/10 you can get a Pithum C-type Invuln Field, worth around 500mil at the moment which is quite a bit to make from a single high sec site. On the far other end you can get nothing from these sites, or a module worth a couple mil at best.
Now I'm not going to try and say it's unbalanced, yes maybe CCP shouldn't have put the best invulns as cruiser modules instead of battleship ones, but ultimately it's the players and the market that made those modules worth so much. I just wanted to point out that there is quite a range of value to high sec ded sites. |
Julius Priscus
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Posted - 2013.06.09 05:58:00 -
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Quote:The best item you could get from a 4/10 in blood space was a c-type med armor repper that sold for 160 mil.
Maybe a energized c-type adaptive but that depended on the markets for which was worth more at the time.
Hardly insane.
Step into l-sec and run a 7/10 and you can get a nice 1 bil drop.
The rewards from escelations can easily be far greater than any 4/10 DED.
Incursions pay better. Militia pays better.
So you chose one of the lowest paying 4/10s to make your point? How about we look at the other end of the spectrum, in Gurista 4/10 you can get a Pithum C-type Invuln Field, worth around 500mil at the moment which is quite a bit to make from a single high sec site. On the far other end you can get nothing from these sites, or a module worth a couple mil at best.
Now I'm not going to try and say it's unbalanced, yes maybe CCP shouldn't have put the best invulns as cruiser modules instead of battleship ones, but ultimately it's the players and the market that made those modules worth so much. I just wanted to point out that there is quite a range of value to high sec ded sites.[/quote] if ccp did make the invulns in 8-10/10's I woulda gotten filthy ******* rich . -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
Remiel Pollard
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
1511
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:16:00 -
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Complaining about not being able to run 3-4/10s with T3s is like complaining about not being allowed to rat in 0.5 in a battleship. It's overkill. I've run 4/10s in an Atron ffs. If you need a T3 for it, then you're doing something wrong. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Haulie Berry
995
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Posted - 2013.06.09 07:49:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote: Wrong, doesn't matter if it's PvP or PvE. The whole point is that CCP creates the content and supplies the tools which we (the playerbase) decide how we're going to use it.
The fact that T3's are no longer allowed by CCP actually validates my original statement.
DMC
This is particularly idiotic.
You've never been able to bring a T3 into a 1/10 or 2/10 and nobody said a thing about it.
You couldn't bring a battlecruiser in a 3/10 or a battleship in a 4/10.
One small adjustment to those limitations and suddenly it's a bunch of melodramatic bull **** about it not being a player driven universe anymore? That may actually be the single flimsiest argument anyone has put forth here, DMC. |
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