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adopt
We Need A Home
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Posted - 2011.10.21 22:15:00 -
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Recently there has been alot of attention towards the legalisation of cannabis in the UK, personally, I welcome the idea, having been quite a stoner my self. . I am all for legalisation. Means I can finally get rid of these stupid warnings from the police.
What about you? Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. |
Niraia
Starcakes THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:13:00 -
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Never saw the point of it being illegal.
- Chief of Security, EOH Poker - Terrorist cult advocate |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:38:00 -
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I don't think Brits need to get stupider... honestly you guys are giving my countrymen a run for their money... |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:44:00 -
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Honestly, if nicotine is legal, then cannabis should be. The law should be consistent. Mind you, I will never touch the stuff, and it is obvious that is in everyone's best interest to stay away from the stuff unless you use it for medicinal purposes. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:46:00 -
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If peroxide is legal, so should be cyanide! |
adopt
We Need A Home
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Posted - 2011.10.22 01:14:00 -
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I had a very in depth conversation with someone on the subject while blazed, I bring it to the EVE community because I know so many stoners here now its ridiculous. Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. |
Myxx
Atropos Group
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Posted - 2011.10.22 01:45:00 -
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I think its a good idea. It gives other places in the world to do the same - and eventually, it wont be illegal anywhere. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2011.10.22 01:50:00 -
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You lucky bastards.
You don't have a narco-terrorist shadow government running your country. If we legalize pot here, the bastards stand to lose a lot of money.
I refer to the USA. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.22 02:04:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:You lucky bastards.
You don't have a narco-terrorist shadow government running your country. If we legalize pot here, the bastards stand to lose a lot of money.
I refer to the USA.
Hehe, you and your drugs |
SpaceSquirrels
Scordite Excavating Xenaphobe
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Posted - 2011.10.22 02:07:00 -
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If only the stoners would get off their asses and vote for it. Got shot down hard in California. Actually a lot of the growers spent money on anti legalization campaigns because they make so much profit as it stands as "semi legal" .
Stoners are their own worst enemy. At least some good news in Chicago city officials are pushing for petty offenses to not be enforced as it costs more money for the whole thing, and many get thrown out of court anyway.
Whole thing is a joke right now. The "medical" ********* laws, and who really cares if people get high (on pot...other drugs are differences issue) People going to prison for it. Make the same laws apply to it like alcohol, move on with out lives.
More power to the UK to do it. |
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Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.22 02:49:00 -
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Taedrin wrote:Honestly, if nicotine is legal, then cannabis should be. The law should be consistent. Mind you, I will never touch the stuff, and it is obvious that is in everyone's best interest to stay away from the stuff unless you use it for medicinal purposes.
you sound like your saying yes, but then you kinda say no you start by standing on a principle and end with giving yourself an out
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:If peroxide is legal, so should be cyanide!
I like false equivocations!
Because tobacco is harmless like peroxide and cannabis is equivalent to cyanide. "Well not really but I'll elude to it and if that's the conclusion you draw it's on you"
SpaceSquirrels wrote:If only the stoners would get off their asses and vote for it. Got shot down hard in California. Actually a lot of the growers spent money on anti legalization campaigns because they make so much profit as it stands as "semi legal" .
Stoners are their own worst enemy. At least some good news in Chicago city officials are pushing for petty offenses to not be enforced as it costs more money for the whole thing, and many get thrown out of court anyway.
Whole thing is a joke right now. The "medical" ********* laws, and who really cares if people get high (on pot...other drugs are differences issue) People going to prison for it. Make the same laws apply to it like alcohol, move on with out lives.
More power to the UK to do it.
Lack of voter turnout is a problem across the board. Pretending there is one unified easily stereotyped faction of people that support legalization, then attributing your argument towards some fantasy juvenile archetype doesn't do you and credit.
In the US, while a constituency bears the burden of holding their government responsible, the pressure and arguments to be made are better directed at firm facts and those who would see injustice to maintain the status quo.
To put it another way: No matter how many people go out and vote there will never be a national ballot measure to legalize it. In light of that, it's pressure on our government to release it's iron grip by recognizing their very categorization of the plant as a schedule 1 drug is a lie (by their own admission) that should be the focus here. We are well beyond blaming the constituency. Mythical stoners or otherwise. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.10.22 02:52:00 -
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Niraia wrote:Never saw the point of it being illegal.
Never saw the point of it being illegal. |
Kurfin
Space Research and Technology Investments
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Posted - 2011.10.22 08:11:00 -
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They should legalise the lot, not just cannabis, and license it's production. Supply addicts with free what ever it is they are addicted to and ensure there are enough rehab places for all those who need/want them.
The war on drugs is incredibly expensive, and unwinnable. The illegal drugs trade fuels violence and theft, tears communities apart and funds terrorism. It is time we gave up on prohibition, it doesn't work and does huge amounts of damage to people and budget deficits. |
Something Random
The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2011.10.22 08:24:00 -
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This comes round every - i reckon 7 to 8 years in the UK. Its normally accompanied with 'Vote Liberal Democrat this year/term and they will legalise cannabis'....
I am throwing a huge assumption that this is a Liberal thrown issue currently (havnt heard of any potential reversals on the last reversal of the first reversal........)
As said above, even the growers dont want it legalised as then it loses market value and will no doubt increase the production expenses through license and import costs. Any 'expert' advice is invariably a professional physician who would never support it, even if they smoked it themselves - its virtual professional suicide, let alone political.
Anyway, in short it wont happen... too much in the way of 'opposite agenda' on too many sides.
Daily Mail is gonna run its usual campaign i guess. lulz. |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.22 09:08:00 -
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Something Random wrote:This comes round every - i reckon 7 to 8 years in the UK. Its normally accompanied with 'Vote Liberal Democrat this year/term and they will legalise cannabis'.... I am throwing a huge assumption that this is a Liberal thrown issue currently (havnt heard of any potential reversals on the last reversal of the first reversal........ ) As said above, even the growers dont want it legalised as then it loses market value and will no doubt increase the production expenses through license and import costs. Any 'expert' advice is invariably a professional physician who would never support it, even if they smoked it themselves - its virtual professional suicide, let alone political. Anyway, in short it wont happen... too much in the way of 'opposite agenda' on too many sides. Daily Mail is gonna run its usual campaign i guess. lulz. Oh, and it will NEVER EVER goto a referendum. FYI.
Yeah, people are always trying to change the world. It never happens. We need to just stop trying stuff. It will NEVER EVER happen.
I bet your the type of guy that can talk himself out of having a good time. |
Louis deGuerre
Malevolence. Void Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.22 11:02:00 -
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- If people want to get stoned they'll GET stoned, laws or no laws. - All the money used to enforcing anti-weed laws is been paid by your taxes. - There is a major difference between hard drugs and soft drugs. Alcohol is WAY more dangerous than THC, trust me on this, yet alcohol is still more or less glorified and THC is FROM THE DEVIL.
Disclaimer : Smoke weed long enough and it will start to rot your brain. Like all good things, moderation is key. FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! |
adopt
We Need A Home
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Posted - 2011.10.22 11:15:00 -
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Louis deGuerre wrote: - If people want to get stoned they'll GET stoned, laws or no laws. - All the money used to enforcing anti-weed laws is been paid by your taxes. - There is a major difference between hard drugs and soft drugs. Alcohol is WAY more dangerous than THC, trust me on this, yet alcohol is still more or less glorified and THC is FROM THE DEVIL.
Disclaimer : Smoke weed long enough and it will start to rot your brain. Like all good things, moderation is key.
Of course, I am not a hard core smoker, I smoke with friends with the rare lonesome spliff to myself when I want to relax completely.
Alcohol is far more addictive and dangerous than cannabis, as well as smoking, both cause a considerable amount of deaths every year, yet cannabis hasn't caused a single one *ever*. Aside from that guy in 1995 who was so stoned he forgot how to puke and choked himself to death. Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. |
Froz3nEcho Sarain
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.22 12:46:00 -
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Well I am Dutch so.... no comment on this subject muwhahaha.
Technically weed isn't legal here but buying it in special stores and having a max of 5 grams on you won't get you in trouble. And every adult can have 5 plants! ~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~ -á-á~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~ |
adopt
We Need A Home
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Posted - 2011.10.22 13:10:00 -
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Froz3nEcho Sarain wrote:Well I am Dutch so.... no comment on this subject muwhahaha.
Technically weed isn't legal here but buying it in special stores and having a max of 5 grams on you won't get you in trouble. And every adult can have 5 plants!
5 grams your classed as a dealer here... Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. |
SpaceSquirrels
Scordite Excavating Xenaphobe
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Posted - 2011.10.22 15:27:00 -
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adopt wrote:Louis deGuerre wrote: - If people want to get stoned they'll GET stoned, laws or no laws. - All the money used to enforcing anti-weed laws is been paid by your taxes. - There is a major difference between hard drugs and soft drugs. Alcohol is WAY more dangerous than THC, trust me on this, yet alcohol is still more or less glorified and THC is FROM THE DEVIL.
Disclaimer : Smoke weed long enough and it will start to rot your brain. Like all good things, moderation is key.
Of course, I am not a hard core smoker, I smoke with friends with the rare lonesome spliff to myself when I want to relax completely. Alcohol is far more addictive and dangerous than cannabis, as well as smoking, both cause a considerable amount of deaths every year, yet cannabis hasn't caused a single one *ever*. Aside from that guy in 1995 who was so stoned he forgot how to puke and choked himself to death.
lol then apparently it has killed someone. True not from over dosing, but as a result from it. Alcohol related incidents are grouped in much the same way.(same with other drugs) Actually from working in the E.R quite a bit of people get into car accidents high. Not like bad "wrap your car around a tree" mind you. More like really dumb **** of rear ending others kinda thing. None the less still impairs function/reaction.
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Milla Lekarariba
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.22 16:11:00 -
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Cannabis and tobacco should ideally be both illegal due to the health issues they cause.. however...
I am for the the legalization of cannabis, for mostly one reason, they government is scrapped for cash big time, and adding a good tax revenue by making cannabis have high tax like tobacco, it may make the difference for so many people to keep their jobs, and save public services...
However, I stress this is most important IF they do legal the stuff, create similar helplines for people to quit, and proper support for those that are struggling with their habit, also what is required is a stronger police commitment on Cannabis, sure it can be legal, but you cannot grow your own to sell. Supply needs to be restricted perhaps via license....
while I am over all for it, I can currently see many reasons against it, so kind of sitting on the fence, because the question is not so much should they legalize it, but what they do if it is legalized |
adopt
We Need A Home
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Posted - 2011.10.22 16:43:00 -
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Milla Lekarariba wrote:Cannabis and tobacco should ideally be both illegal due to the health issues they cause.. however...
I am for the the legalization of cannabis, for mostly one reason, they government is scrapped for cash big time, and adding a good tax revenue by making cannabis have high tax like tobacco, it may make the difference for so many people to keep their jobs, and save public services...
However, I stress this is most important IF they do legal the stuff, create similar helplines for people to quit, and proper support for those that are struggling with their habit, also what is required is a stronger police commitment on Cannabis, sure it can be legal, but you cannot grow your own to sell. Supply needs to be restricted perhaps via license....
while I am over all for it, I can currently see many reasons against it, so kind of sitting on the fence, because the question is not so much should they legalize it, but what they do if it is legalized
Cannabis only causes health issue if smoked with tobacco, and if you have industrial strength sessions everynight Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. |
Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.10.22 16:50:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:You lucky bastards.
You don't have a narco-terrorist shadow government running your country. If we legalize pot here, the bastards stand to lose a lot of money.
I refer to the USA.
You really think that it is monetary gain for the US to have a 'war on drugs'? It may be a gain for some peoples wallets, but it comes out as a loss for the tax payers.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.10.22 16:54:00 -
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Milla Lekarariba wrote:Cannabis and tobacco should ideally be both illegal due to the health issues they cause.
Yet another who thinks that only 'bad' things kill people.
Also, you forgot alcohol, but let me guess you are responsible and can handle your alcehole
Please take a look at the rate of death associated to over eating and lack of locomotion.
/facepalm
Slade
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.10.22 18:06:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:You lucky bastards.
You don't have a narco-terrorist shadow government running your country. If we legalize pot here, the bastards stand to lose a lot of money.
I refer to the USA. You really think that it is monetary gain for the US to have a 'war on drugs'? It may be a gain for some peoples wallets, but it comes out as a loss for the tax payers. Slade
It's a huge money maker for some in the government and many of the banks. Recently a number of the banks were found to be laundering huge sums for the drug cartels. Imagine you could make money no matter which team wins a game. Would you care who wins? Now imagine that instead of making money on the win or loss, you make money with each point scored, by either team, it's in your best interest to never have anyone win and just keep the game going as long as possible.
These same banks that have been caught laundering, also finance the governments of these countries and finance of course the deficit spending developed countries that make the drugs illegal. Playing both sides, not a bad business. |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.10.22 18:12:00 -
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adopt wrote:
Cannabis only causes health issue if smoked with tobacco, and if you have industrial strength sessions everynight
Overlooking, neatly, the horrendous permanent mental health issues such as psychosis that the recent strains of this stuff induce.
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adopt
We Need A Home
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Posted - 2011.10.22 18:24:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:adopt wrote:
Cannabis only causes health issue if smoked with tobacco, and if you have industrial strength sessions everynight
Overlooking, neatly, the horrendous permanent mental health issues such as psychosis that the recent strains of this stuff induce.
You ineptitude to read is rather lulsy.
Quote: industrial strength sessions everynight
If you do that, then yes, you will develop mental issues, if you are a casual user, you are much less likely to. Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. |
Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
10
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Posted - 2011.10.22 18:39:00 -
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adopt wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:adopt wrote:
Cannabis only causes health issue if smoked with tobacco, and if you have industrial strength sessions everynight
Overlooking, neatly, the horrendous permanent mental health issues such as psychosis that the recent strains of this stuff induce. You ineptitude to read is rather lulsy. Quote: industrial strength sessions everynight If you do that, then yes, you will develop mental issues, if you are a casual user, you are much less likely to.
Still, the link to mental health issues needs to be fully explored before it can be made legal. |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.10.22 18:45:00 -
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adopt wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:[quote=adopt]
Cannabis only causes health issue if smoked with tobacco, and if you have industrial strength sessions everynight Overlooking, neatly, the horrendous permanent mental health issues such as psychosis that the recent strains of this stuff induce.
You ineptitude to read is rather lulsy.
Actually, no. There is an 'and' in the above sentence that I quoted. Not an 'or'.
I can read extremely well, thank you, and I don't need to use made up words to try to deprecate other people's comments. |
adopt
We Need A Home
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Posted - 2011.10.22 18:48:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:adopt wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:[quote=adopt]
Cannabis only causes health issue if smoked with tobacco, and if you have industrial strength sessions everynight Overlooking, neatly, the horrendous permanent mental health issues such as psychosis that the recent strains of this stuff induce. You ineptitude to read is rather lulsy.Actually, no. There is an 'and' in the above sentence that I quoted. Not an 'or'. I can read extremely well, thank you, and I don't need to use made up words to try to deprecate other people's comments.
I'm pretty blazed right now, your point is invalid, until you prove to me that cannabis is harmful, you talking out your arse
Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. |
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