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Vince Snetterton
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:18:00 -
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Loan--Wolf wrote:i thought about that but i realy dont want to be a leader and then there is all that buisnes of weeding out spies and corp stealers and all that good stuff
CCP, this man represents a group of players that the null sec cartel's tell you "CCP, don't worry about these solo players who threaten to quit. You know that we are the only content creators in the game and you must cater to our demands exclusively if you want the game to survive."
Sir, I recognize your pain. If I may try to read your thoughts from between the lines, the time you have to put in to make up the difference in fuel cost is just not worth it.
Outside of the Eve null sec cartel leaders who play this game for a living, very few have unlimited hours to play Eve. So for the people suggesting that this guy somehow find more time to grind the ISK to pay for his POS, maybe he does not have the time. Maybe he can't possibly grind any more ISK out his C1 running with the playstyle he has described.
I am sure the null sec propagandists who profited immensely from these changes just gloat and say "suck it up, change your playstyle."
Well, maybe he likes his solo playstyle, and the fact is that he does not want to play any other way, especially if he has to deal with the treachery that is celebrated by a specific type of person in this game, and by a subset of game designers who share the same mental outlook on life.
We know the null sec cartels don't give a crap if he leaves the game. The question is does CCP care? So far, their actions mirror that of whatever propaganda the null sec cartel outs out. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14588
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:27:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:I am sure the null sec propagandists who profited immensely from these changes just gloat and say "suck it up, change your playstyle." Why would they when it has nothing to do with nullsec? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
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Posted - 2013.06.05 22:28:00 -
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you actuly hit it dam near spot on lol other than null parts of it i cant realy speak to that because i dont know much about it but the rest is golden |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:06:00 -
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Can I have the stuff from one of those accounts? |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:06:00 -
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Quote: Why would they when it has nothing to do with nullsec?
how come it dont you dont think that 20 % pf the ice afects null ? |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1698
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:08:00 -
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Let me introduce you to my friend the capslock key. |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:11:00 -
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there are 2 things i come to terms with when i was 19 ill never be rich and i cant spell all your little insultes and flameing in the world cant change that and normaly i inorg them but hey im board watching tv cant play eve |
Strom Crendraven
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION ORPHANS OF EVE
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:15:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:Eh, if this is about fuel prices, anyone with half a brain can afford that with literally any and all activity in wspace no matter what class hole they live in. If it's about the changes to scanning, which I think it is, all that's really changed is that now it is even more important to pay attention. If you're not ready nor willing to do that, too bad so sad, wspace is better off without such players anyway.
Epic douchebag who has most obviously never lived in WH by himself, based on other posts in forums im starting to doubt he has ever even been in a WH. Soloing a C1/ C2 is no way to ritches, it is barely survival unless you sink every free moment of your life into it. Anything that takes isk away from this equation is death to the solo guys that live in WH's. Of course Borlag doesn't understand this because he doesn't have what it takes to live in a WH by himself, and i find it hilarious that the guy who posts "And no, I don't consider the troubles of farmers to be a drawback in the least." is here advocating "farming" your WH more.
OP, its tough and if you do have to leave know that you have accomplished what less than 1% of the rest of the people in this game could even if it was for a short time. As for the asshats giving you grief here, just look around the forums a bit thats pretty much what they do. Apparently their eve experience is so awesome it can only be handled in very short doses and they must spend the rest of their time here trolling people thats how leet they are. |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:16:00 -
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i also just want to put it on paper for the record 1.i like most of the changes 2.im not saying change ice back or even the spawn amount 3.im not even crying about the gaves alltho i think the risk verser reward is one sided to risk now
all i am saying is that a change that digs this deep into the economy of eve should have been discused with the players
only thing i would change is the 4 houre respawn time so the price of ice can stable if you want to make it deplet thats fine make it respwan and have to be scaned down or something |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
243
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:24:00 -
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Loan--Wolf wrote:i thought about that but i realy dont want to be a leader and then there is all that buisnes of weeding out spies and corp stealers and all that good stuff
I really don't see a need for you to become a leader. There are other things that corporations can do aside from pew-pew. Strike a deal with another corp, even a C1 wormhole has a lot to offer. And someone running one alone will be very welcome by some of the newer mining corps, e.g..
Make sure you screen for potential partners carefully. The market is the market. It will always change and sometimes what was profitable yesterday, ain't anymore the next month. There can be many reasons for it. Expansions being just one of them. |
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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
243
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:27:00 -
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Also, on a sidenote, I first read the topic's name as CCP Wish... (late here)
I wondered where he'd work, marketing? Turns out it was more interesting... |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:28:00 -
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Aidan Brooder wrote:Loan--Wolf wrote:i thought about that but i realy dont want to be a leader and then there is all that buisnes of weeding out spies and corp stealers and all that good stuff I really don't see a need for you to become a leader. There are other things that corporations can do aside from pew-pew. Strike a deal with another corp, even a C1 wormhole has a lot to offer. And someone running one alone will be very welcome by some of the newer mining corps, e.g.. Make sure you screen for potential partners carefully. The market is the market. It will always change and sometimes what was profitable yesterday, ain't anymore the next month. There can be many reasons for it. Expansions being just one of them.
i dont live in it totaly alone just my corp is a one man corp and the other people that was liveing there was a mineing corp but they disapered im guessing bot ban but no way to know and there is a old school vet droped a pos so he could do pi to plex his acounts but it is just me to fend for my self and my corp he only plays long enouf to do some pi |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
243
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:30:00 -
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As said: Get some more partners in. |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:31:00 -
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i come up with that because in the posts pre expansion ever time i got slapped down for asking not to do so radical change to the ice i was told that ccp doesn't like solo players or wh players i thought it just fit lol |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
243
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:36:00 -
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I think the key is that everything gets easier if you do not solo. I have several accounts, like most, but just because I enjoy several playstyles in game.
I find the notion to run four accounts for one purpose quite - stressy - but that is only my opinion.
I don't think CCP should "target" lone wolves. But if you see that a given goal or operation can - temporarily or permanently - not be handled by just 1 person with 4 alts, then you need reliable partners or you need to give up your operation and find another venture.
That said: I personally think the Ice prices will go way way down again soon. It is much easier still to mine than expected. Give it some time... |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:38:00 -
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one acount is scanner with some other combat skill for need one is indie with combat for need one is more or less cov ops with combat as needed and one is just for killing with he is the one i line the most buhaha
edited to add depending how you define easer i agree it would be a lot easer to make large amounts of isk with a big corp in a c5
but i find for me personly i learned eve lot easer and faster liveing alone in this c1
just all in how you look at it i guess |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
243
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:47:00 -
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Well, in any case, I wish you good luck... |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
785
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:01:00 -
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Loan--Wolf wrote:i also just want to put it on paper for the record 1.i like most of the changes 2.im not saying change ice back or even the spawn amount 3.im not even crying about the gaves alltho i think the risk verser reward is one sided to risk now
all i am saying is that a change that digs this deep into the economy of eve should have been discused with the players
only thing i would change is the 4 houre respawn time so the price of ice can stable if you want to make it deplet thats fine make it respwan and have to be scaned down or something
edited to add i am mostly happy with the changes the new fire sound is a anoing tho lol
I'm quite surprised CCP didn't thought about making a bit of ice spawn in WH sites, not enough to cover a POS fuel but at least a bit, this wouldn't change much or nothing to bigger corps, but would certainly help a bit for small corps and solo guys that are being totally removed from the gaming equation if prerequisite no met: no rl life eve is a 24h job or a Golden Mastercard.
The main factor CCP didn't accounted at any moment in this change is the solo player, have done it neither for any other change and this is not a good move from their part leading to a -1 on the excellence route, solo players with not huge amounts of hours a day or week to play should have tools available to explore all areas of the game and play everywhere in new eden without being a special ******.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Phoenix Einherjar
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:14:00 -
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Loan--Wolf wrote:way i see it i shouldn't be forced to play the way some one else wants me to play and if you disagree that's fine your welcome to your opinion even if it is wrong
Your arrogance is ******* astounding. YOUR opinion is the one that is wrong here. It was YOUR fault you can't adapt to change. YOUR fault you didnt inform yourself and prepare for the change. YOUR choice to run a POS. Nobody forced you to build a POS and nobody is forcing you to take it down.
Do you also complain to the government about petrol prices when they have no control over those? Because that's the exact same ******* situation here
For the love of god someone lock this thread. |
Forum Clone 77777
State War Academy Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:22:00 -
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Ok so I read a few posts until I understood what the OP is complaining about.
And it makes no sense. Its NOT CCPs fault that people stockpiled and bought all of the ice, hell, the ice price started to rise at the damn presentation at fanfest, litterally half an hour later the price had gone up noticeably. And its STILL NOT CCPS FAULT, its entirely because of people trying to earn more ISK, market speculation. |
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Seniae 0n3
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:25:00 -
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Phoenix Einherjar wrote:Loan--Wolf wrote:way i see it i shouldn't be forced to play the way some one else wants me to play and if you disagree that's fine your welcome to your opinion even if it is wrong Your arrogance is ******* astounding. YOUR opinion is the one that is wrong here. It was YOUR fault you can't adapt to change. YOUR fault you didnt inform yourself and prepare for the change. YOUR choice to run a POS. Nobody forced you to build a POS and nobody is forcing you to take it down. Do you also complain to the government about petrol prices when they have no control over those? Because that's the exact same ******* situation here For the love of god someone lock this thread.
blah blah blah blah ... blab much ... nothing constructive |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:34:00 -
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lol not only was it not constructive it was down right wrong i never once blamed any one and fyi i been keeping tabs on this ever sence fanfeast it has nothing to do with that its a simple fact i DONT WANT TO BE FORCED TO PLAY HOW SOME ONE ELSE THINKS I SHOULD did you understand that time or are you learning challenged
edit to fix a majior spelling error dont expect me to make a habit of it :) |
Minister of Death
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:34:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Let me introduce you to my friend the capslock key.
THE FACT YOU DIDN'T WRITE THAT IN ALL CAPS IS DISTURB!! |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:36:00 -
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oh and i forgot let me see here i thought the defention of a sandbox game was to play how you want to not how the gms want you to am i wrong on this if so by all means tell me so ccp can take that off there webpage |
Psychotic Monk
Aero Warp Orb Xenopus
1260
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:49:00 -
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Competitive comes ahead of sandbox.
If it was a true sandbox then literally anything would be possible and you could, as a soloist without any friends and without competing with anyone, own the entirety of nullsec. [url]http://belligerentundesirables.com/[/url] |
Forum Clone 77777
State War Academy Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:50:00 -
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Loan--Wolf wrote:oh and i forgot let me see here i thought the defention of a sandbox game was to play how you want to not how the gms want you to am i wrong on this if so by all means tell me so ccp can take that off there webpage So exactly what kind of play is being forced onto you? What is it you dont want to do, that you are being made to do, apparently by GMs? |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:56:00 -
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Forum Clone 77777 wrote:Loan--Wolf wrote:oh and i forgot let me see here i thought the defention of a sandbox game was to play how you want to not how the gms want you to am i wrong on this if so by all means tell me so ccp can take that off there webpage So exactly what kind of play is being forced onto you? What is it you dont want to do, that you are being made to do, apparently by GMs? im being forced to move out of the c1 i have been liveing in for the last like 8 months because of price of pos fuel is to high |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:57:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:Competitive comes ahead of sandbox.
If it was a true sandbox then literally anything would be possible and you could, as a soloist without any friends and without competing with anyone, own the entirety of nullsec.
and yes i get that that you have to have some boundaries i was referring to the fact that you have choices in how you chose to play
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Fernando MRuiz
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
101
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Posted - 2013.06.06 01:01:00 -
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Loan--Wolf wrote:*rant snipped*
So you open with blaming CCP for you not being able to support a WH POS due to ice prices skyrocketing, then you say 'I'm not blaming anyone for this'. Let's build on that, because right now, you sound exactly like anyone who's pitched at fit over getting ganked while mining.
Yes, CCP created a sandbox game. Yes, the definition of a 'sandbox game' is a game where a player has total freedom to do what he wants. However, you're complaining because other players in this same sandbox are playing how they want to, which is preparing for a massive price hike by stockpiling ice like they just saw Wormwood falling from the sky. Guess what: they're playing the game the way they want to, just like I play the game like I want to and the guy who's gonna quote and snark on this post plays the way he or she wants to. Your rant is akin to 'CCP changed the game and now I can't make enough ISK anymore, so I'm quitting the game'.
Really?! Your reaction to this massive change is 'MY toy!' and pitching a fit? Don't take this the wrong way, but your emotional investment in the game is extremely dangerous. I'm not suggesting quitting, but taking a few steps back and looking this entire thread over.
Sure, there's points where I see a change and go 'oh, really, guys?', but turn around and adapt to it. There's points where I log in because I feel like mining for a bit so I'm that much closer to my materials needs, and every belt in my system is empty because mining ops have just blown through. I don't even get mad at suicide gankers that find and pop me, because even though these would always be hisec ganks, they were quick enough hits that they get the pod before the ship's explosion fades out completely and that's worth a 'gf' in and of itself.
If a change this drastic affects you this much, time to backpedal just a little and think about the situation more thoroughly. "One must, in one's life, make a choice between boredom and suffering." - Mme. Germaine de Sta+½l |
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
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Posted - 2013.06.06 01:05:00 -
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in the end when the dust clears i will probably liquidate my assets consolidate my accounts sell of the spares and join a wh corp but that in its self is my main problem i dont play well with others i like being independent and by me doing so ccp's income is reduced by 480 us dollors a year not a lot i know but in contrast when you add up the others that number will grow some what i have no idea how many solo playes will feel the same as me and close some acounts but just say if there was a 1000 that close just one acount they was plexing that would 20000 a year in income loss i figure its much more but i cant prove that |
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