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Sethose Olderon
Honourable Company of Gentlemen
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Posted - 2013.06.08 01:06:00 -
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Orpheus Sin wrote:Dear OP
The reason that you are angry is that you were not able to set up sov in Null Sec on your "own terms"? What does that mean? Are you just bad at being a CEO? Didn't have the ability or the time to invest in the game? Did you believe that running an alliance would mean that you would be isolated and/or insulated from other alliances?
EVE is a sandbox,but you are not the only one in the sandbox.
You've missed my meaning completely... Nice troll post though. "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3610
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:44:00 -
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Orpheus Sin wrote:Dear OP
The reason that you are angry is that you were not able to set up sov in Null Sec on your "own terms"? What does that mean? Are you just bad at being a CEO? Didn't have the ability or the time to invest in the game? Did you believe that running an alliance would mean that you would be isolated and/or insulated from other alliances?
EVE is a sandbox,but you are not the only one in the sandbox. Join TEST, they're soloing nullsec. I am a nullsec zealot. |
flakeys
Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation
1156
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:34:00 -
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TravisWB wrote:
It is true, the end game for Eve is that you become a battle thrall for some malevolent lord in the part of null you are nearest to. .
There is no endgame , just an enormous amount of possibilities to choose from.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Orpheus Sin
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.06.09 12:49:00 -
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Sethose Olderon wrote:Orpheus Sin wrote:Dear OP
The reason that you are angry is that you were not able to set up sov in Null Sec on your "own terms"? What does that mean? Are you just bad at being a CEO? Didn't have the ability or the time to invest in the game? Did you believe that running an alliance would mean that you would be isolated and/or insulated from other alliances?
EVE is a sandbox,but you are not the only one in the sandbox. You've missed my meaning completely... Nice troll post though.
No. I got the point. You are angry that other people are in your sandbox. You have been playing for seven years trying to make your mark on the game in a meaningful way, and you were not able to do what you wanted because of other people and the politics that come with it.
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Xeraphi
The Gun Runners
25
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Posted - 2013.06.09 14:09:00 -
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I Need PLEX wrote:floating in space wrote:You know what would be a fun game mechanic? High-sec wages war on 0.0 with the help of Concord
This would be good, I think we would stand a chance with Concord help and we can add more usable space to the game Because the tens of thousands of more players there are in highsec compared to 0.0 cant get the job done? They need magical NPC assistance?
Yes the army of miners, noobs and trade alts is gonna do juuust fine against dedicated pvp characters. LMAO! Target death animation flicker problem #2 Target death animation flicker problem #1 Please fix before June 21 I'd like to keep playing EVE! |
Bimbi Norris
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:34:00 -
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i laugh out loud as OP is most certainly more suited for WOW, farewell, goodbye and thanks for all the fish!!! |
Zimmy Zeta
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
22330
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:10:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote: ....
Compare this to other alliances who have been known to check the membership of their alliance to see who is online but not in fleet so those people could be kicked out.
Compare this to other alliances who's directorate won't let people post on the Evo forums on their mains. Or order their membership not to read the news sites when things are going bad. Yes it can get that silly in nullsec.
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I keep hearing about that for years now, that there are alliances that won't let their members publicly voice their opinions and put all kinds of pressure on them. I guess since these poor servants are not allowed to speak up, I still don't know who those people are exactly.
May I invoke the ancient rite of "Name & Shame" and ask for the names of some of those Alliances you were talking about?
Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness Clockwork Pineapple
1863
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:18:00 -
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so where do NPC null ghettos like syndicate come into play?
did we just loose eve because we chase fleets and not sov?
why didn't anyone tell us we were the lords and masters of eve? we only thought we were the lords and masters of POITOT (the only named system in syndicate BTW) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3616
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:20:00 -
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Orpheus Sin wrote:Sethose Olderon wrote:Orpheus Sin wrote:The reason that you are angry is that you were not able to set up sov in Null Sec on your "own terms"? What does that mean? Are you just bad at being a CEO? Didn't have the ability or the time to invest in the game? Did you believe that running an alliance would mean that you would be isolated and/or insulated from other alliances?
EVE is a sandbox,but you are not the only one in the sandbox. You've missed my meaning completely... Nice troll post though. No. I got the point. You are angry that other people are in your sandbox. You have been playing for seven years trying to make your mark on the game in a meaningful way, and you were not able to do what you wanted because of other people and the politics that come with it. Seems like someone tried to :getin: and was fed a mouthfull of sand
box. I am a nullsec zealot. |
Ekhss Nihilo
Ideal Machine
24
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:28:00 -
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Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Sethose Olderon wrote:When is the patch turning Eve into a pvp-arena? It was called "Release Day." Or something to that effect. Just because "high sec" isn't 0.0, doesn't mean it isn't a "pvp-arena." Also, clearly my mercenary work in high sec is simply me professing a desire to join a nullsec alliance. My secret fetish for SOV grinding is revealed!
True - war decs kind of blow that one out of the water. "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180)
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3617
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:22:00 -
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Ekhss Nihilo wrote:Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Sethose Olderon wrote:When is the patch turning Eve into a pvp-arena? It was called "Release Day." Or something to that effect. Just because "high sec" isn't 0.0, doesn't mean it isn't a "pvp-arena." Also, clearly my mercenary work in high sec is simply me professing a desire to join a nullsec alliance. My secret fetish for SOV grinding is revealed! True - war decs kind of blow that one out of the water. You're in luck - we have lots of sov to grind in Fountain. I am a nullsec zealot. |
Drew Solaert
Wildcard Inc.
269
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:24:00 -
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58,604 people currently logged on apparently seem to disagree with you. You won't be missed :)
(Stuff, can I have it?) I lied :o
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Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
385
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:25:00 -
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Nullsec is for neck beards.
Hi sec and low sec are for people who want to have fun.
I bet if you did a study of unemployment rates of null sec people compared to normal superior high/low sec people, the null beards would be drastically higher. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. S2N Citizens
1
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Posted - 2013.06.10 10:09:00 -
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Wy leave , just rent a system , you still make decent amount of isk even with small corp |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
473
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Posted - 2013.06.10 13:41:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Which is why EvE really isn't a sandbox game.
Nullsec wouldn't influence a player in a sandbox game. Same with high or low sec.
PvE and PvP wouldn't influence each other, as you're allowed to do your own thing. Haven't you mixed up the terms "Sandbox" and "Singleplayer"? Because I'm pretty sure you did. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2806
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Posted - 2013.06.10 13:55:00 -
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Wow, I must be playing a different game or something... Cause nullsec people don't tell me what to do...
Yet... |
Maxpie
MUSE Buy-n-Large Metaphysical Utopian Society Enterprises
303
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Posted - 2013.06.10 14:11:00 -
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OP, have you ever lived in null? Personally I find it boring, thus (I believe) all the drama. Kind of like a bunch of bored housewives. Of course, your mileage may vary.
No good deed goes unpunished |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Daktaklakpak.
2231
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Posted - 2013.06.10 14:16:00 -
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And yet another crying clown that can't just leave the game without crying about it on the forums first...
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821 |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
72
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Posted - 2013.06.10 14:26:00 -
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OP, some of us can see where you are coming from, the issue for me is that the farms and fields is out of kilter, so that vast areas of 0.0 sit there fully TCU'd, IHUB'd and Stationed but no one operating in them at all..., many people who have tried to take even a rubbish system have been curb stomped and have decided to just chill in high sec, while null sec people whine of a lack of targets and continiously thing of ways to nerf HS to push people who will never go to 0.0 to go.
However the recent changes may make a difference to sov holding and I suggest that you stick with it, it will take time to play out, but it may just work, because holding sov over an entire region may no longer be possible finanically and moving vast fleets of Supers and Titans from one end of the map to the other will be so costly that even the richest alliance may balk at it, there is hope, but it will take time to manifest itself. If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space, its as simple as that!-á-á-á-á-á-á-á There are people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local, well they should light a cyno and try jumping to it. |
flakeys
Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation
1159
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Posted - 2013.06.10 14:26:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:
I bet if you did a study of unemployment rates of null sec people compared to normal superior high/low sec people, the null beards would be drastically higher.
I too pull random numbers out of my ass
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Sethose Olderon
Honourable Company of Gentlemen
83
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:25:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:OP, have you ever lived in null? Personally I find it boring, thus (I believe) all the drama. Kind of like a bunch of bored housewives. Of course, your mileage may vary.
There are parts of nullsec that I do find boring, however the draw of Eve for me was the socio-political aspects. I'm much more interested in leadership than I am in anything else. I like to manage things, and that exists independent of location.
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
253
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:31:00 -
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Sethose Olderon wrote: "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
That guy talked to much.
Im glad he is dead. "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |
Sethose Olderon
Honourable Company of Gentlemen
83
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:33:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Sethose Olderon wrote: "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
That guy talked to much. Im glad he is dead.
Troll is troll.
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson |
Adunh Slavy
947
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:37:00 -
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Power projection and territorial control should have exponential cost curves, like everything else in Eve.
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Generals4
Liandri Covenant
1837
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:45:00 -
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Sethose Olderon wrote:Maxpie wrote:OP, have you ever lived in null? Personally I find it boring, thus (I believe) all the drama. Kind of like a bunch of bored housewives. Of course, your mileage may vary. There are parts of nullsec that I do find boring, however the draw of Eve for me was the socio-political aspects. I'm much more interested in leadership than I am in anything else. I like to manage things, and that exists independent of location.
Have you ever considered "claiming" a wormhole? You don't need to be part of a mega alliance to do that. -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |
Sethose Olderon
Honourable Company of Gentlemen
84
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:46:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Power projection and territorial control should have exponential cost curves, like everything else in Eve.
I agree, and the original concepts in the Dominion expansion would have worked towards achieving this, but the nullbears bitched and whined to epic proportions, and thus its effects were neutered.
Oh wait, I forgot, my bad. Highsec and lowsec are where all the whiners are.
Generals4 wrote:Sethose Olderon wrote:Maxpie wrote:OP, have you ever lived in null? Personally I find it boring, thus (I believe) all the drama. Kind of like a bunch of bored housewives. Of course, your mileage may vary. There are parts of nullsec that I do find boring, however the draw of Eve for me was the socio-political aspects. I'm much more interested in leadership than I am in anything else. I like to manage things, and that exists independent of location. Have you ever considered "claiming" a wormhole? You don't need to be part of a mega alliance to do that.
See previous post of this issue. "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson |
Ace Menda
Phoibe Enterprises
22
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:55:00 -
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Sethose Olderon wrote:After playing Eve for almost seven years, I have come to an ultimate conclusion. I'm the type of person that wants to find my own path, and not follow under anyone else's rules (nullsec blocks). After several attempts to achieve the goal of building an Alliance and claiming sovereignty on its own terms I've realized this is impossible.
Why? Two main reasons.
First, and foremost, Eve is dominated by Nullsec. Their culture, tactics, and influence is impossible to counter or side-step. Anyone who attempts to do so is curb-stomped and eliminated. Either you play by their rules, or you can take your toys and go home --the epitome of playground politics.
Secondly, CCP is in love with nullsec. All the members of the CSM are nullsec clowns bowing to the whims of their maniacal masters. CCP's never-ending love affair with the whole damn thing leads them to screw anyone or anything who has an alternative agenda. They incessantly push everyone towards nullsec, while having no consideration for the individual or for the small corporation or alliance. Either you join a mega-alliance and become cannon-fodder or you really have no viable long-term path in Eve. Nullsec is the end-game of Eve.
So, I ask in earnest CCP, when are you going to make all of Eve nullsec. When is the patch turning Eve into a pvp-arena? Stop dicking around, and do it, or give the rest of us options. Consider the individual, the small corporation, and the small alliance. Not everyone is interested in doing the bidding of a maniacal bloated psychopath and his personality cult.
For me, it really doesn't matter, it's the last straw. Subscription Cancelled.
Cue the, "Can I have your stuff lines". No, you can't have it, f*ck off.
Addition: The original post has 42 likes as of now, it seems I struck a nerve. Thanks for the support, I hope for you the future will change things.
And why should we care?
Your not giving away your stuff, makes the whole thread useless.
p.s. You do know that CSM is elected by the PLAYERS, maybe next time vote or run for a CSM positioin. Are you in need of some nice chat? Are you new and want some help? Look no further and join: Crazy Dutch Guy |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
254
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:58:00 -
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Sethose Olderon wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Sethose Olderon wrote: "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
That guy talked to much. Im glad he is dead. Troll is troll.
No, Im just a subject of His Majesty and I dont like lippy colonials
Traitors and terrorists the lot of them "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
29
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:00:00 -
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If you can't find your path, then it's you who are the problem. Maybe your desired path in nullsec space is to forge a great empire.
Maybe mine is to kill other people, and maybe that of my leader-people (dictators and all that evil stuff) is to direct me to ensure the members of your corporation never prosper, and without them your alliance never rises to challenge ours? Believe me, there's plenty of room for small corporations among the "big boys". Unless by "small" you mean 4-man corp where one member is eternally AFK, one is a mega-carebear, the director hasn't logged on in a year and the only competent guy is a spy trying to awox the carebear.
And to add, where's the evidence of "CCP loves nullsec" if 0.0 was being screwed over for years, and Odyssey industry buffs were the first big, good change?
Also, your stuff, you know the drill though be so kind and redfrog it near a jumpoff point to the ~ccp loveland of nullsec~, I can't be bothered to leave the lovezone to pick things up. Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet? |
Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
131
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:02:00 -
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This It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |
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