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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Amon Evakrace
Originally by: Deathwing Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43 "Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/ http://www.interbusonline.com/ http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/ http://www.ore-inc.com/ http://www.oreresearch.com.au/main.htm
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Mercantile Club - http://www.mercantile-club.com/
Senate and Supreme Court Corporations in the Gallente Federation, im sure we are all aware that many countries have in their governmental body a "Senate" and a "Supreme Court" so that to would also be emulating a real-world group
If CCP wants to play on semantics, i can spend more then 5 minutes scrolling thru CCP created NPC corp names and googling stuff and finding references to rl groups and organizations
in closing
give them their names back sit down and stfu
Rofl beautiful man, i guess all we need now is to do a few calls and let these RL corps know CCP is ripping them off.....
Free marketing is better than no marketing
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Tiny Carlos
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
TV isnt rl
Lies!11
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:44:00 -
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While were on this rediculous topic, anyone notice striking similarities between the blood raiders and the reavers from Firefly/Serenity? Ebil space rats whos ships are covered in blood? And there are even Blood Reavers!? I noticed this while looking at a bhaalgorn in space, then over at the show. I got into a long debate with my friend about how Eve was long in the making before Firefly, but now I'm wondering why i was defending CCP if they will not defend their customers.
End the Witch hunt. It doesnt do anyone any good.
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Tarsha Listur
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: Tarsha Listur on 07/11/2005 19:45:58 ok there names are "offensive", but changing them over 2 years later in some cases is bad mkay.
This recently happend to a good friend of mine after 2 years.
My final opinion "This is F***ted up"
BTW my submission crashed coz 5+ peeps responded at the time, a sign maybe
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Amon Evakrace
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Caybn E'vangel While were on this rediculous topic, anyone notice striking similarities between the blood raiders and the reavers from Firefly/Serenity? Ebil space rats whos ships are covered in blood? And there are even Blood Reavers!? I noticed this while looking at a bhaalgorn in space, then over at the show. I got into a long debate with my friend about how Eve was long in the making before Firefly, but now I'm wondering why i was defending CCP if they will not defend their customers.
End the Witch hunt. It doesnt do anyone any good.
Doesnt count, thats like saying "Damn eve is a complete RIP OFF of homeworld games, i mean JESUS!"
Just cause its alike doesnt break the rules Anyways give SAS their corp name backs, end this bs! |
Nathrezim
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:56:00 -
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220+ replies on this topic,8 pages and still no official reply from a GM or something...
/me wonders...
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Mornee
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Grisbius
The connotations surrounding 4S could be VERY emotionally charged for certain people who may have suffered from the evil military group rather than just have a hatred for all Serbs.
If someone did committed a crime wearing 4S emblem, you can't say that 4S represents something vile/evil based solely on that. Otherwise you're practically saying that if, for example, terrorist wore Adidas shoes, Adidas Company should be held responsible for his crimes too. Once again, 4S is a phrase, a slogan for our nation, just as English phrase "God save the Queen".
We are not trying to marginalize things, but if 4S was really a symbol of something cruel and sinister would it be allowed in our national flag and coat-of-arms that are displayed in all diplomatic organizations through out the world? ù
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Orin Malbaum
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:06:00 -
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Fristly, CHANGE THEM BACK!!1!11one.
Also i/any who agree demand a response from a GM or someone official as to what has inspired them to take this ludicrous step with a corp that has been a well known and possibly feared name since pretty much the beginning of the game. Three letters: W T F
Response demanded, post if u agree we should at least get a respone on a matter the community objects so strongly to.
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Amon Evakrace
Originally by: Caybn E'vangel While were on this rediculous topic, anyone notice striking similarities between the blood raiders and the reavers from Firefly/Serenity? Ebil space rats whos ships are covered in blood? And there are even Blood Reavers!? I noticed this while looking at a bhaalgorn in space, then over at the show. I got into a long debate with my friend about how Eve was long in the making before Firefly, but now I'm wondering why i was defending CCP if they will not defend their customers.
End the Witch hunt. It doesnt do anyone any good.
Doesnt count, thats like saying "Damn eve is a complete RIP OFF of homeworld games, i mean JESUS!"
Just cause its alike doesnt break the rules Anyways give SAS their corp name backs, end this bs!
Lol, I know, that was mostly just a joke, but all the points have been made, and all the opinions voiced, yet still no response or closure. I know it's not the same thing, I was just pointing out how easy it is to find fault in anything if you look hard enough.
So yeah, 2 corps, 2 names, 8 pages, 0 response. I trust we're just waiting for the results from a ccp meeting about this, cause you have voices from a very diverse amount of the playerbase here. I dont think this can be ignored.
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: dabster on 07/11/2005 20:10:20 Reply from Kieron
Quote: I know there are going to be players that disagree with my reply to this thread. As much as I try, I know I cannot make 100% of the community happy. Having said that...
CCP's character and corporation naming policies have been in effect for many years, the EULA and Terms of Service are one of the first documents laid down by any gaming company. These documents are designed with the protection of both, the company and the player base in mind.
All intentions and interpretations can be misconstrued or abused. The naming policies and decisions made over the last few days are being discussed internally and a decision will be reached. Will this discussion result in a change to the naming policy? That is one possibility. It might also result in a name change for many corporations out there. Be careful with what you wish for. The outcome may be entirely different than the wish.
In the interim, there are some corporations petitioning other corporations with names that have real life counterparts or connotations. It could be said that these corporations are griefing other corporations in an attempt to make their point. This MUST cease.
Yes, I use griefing purposefully. Abusing the support system to make a point and cause hardship for other players is griefing and another violation of the EULA.
As I stated, the topic is being discussed internally and a decision will be reached.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
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Captain Capslock
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Capslock on 07/11/2005 20:14:19
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 07/11/2005 11:43:13
Originally by: Vishnej DB - I did, but the association is there, whether that was your inspiration or not doesn't matter. Even so, I believe it unlikely that you would have made the alliance based purely on the verse, without Ambrose to point it out to you.
Blacklight already stated how we came up with the bob name, I guess you couldn't be bothered to read that either huh?
And if you had read my post you would have seen that according to the official line by CCP it is the real life name of the military company.
Band of Brothers is not associated with the company in real life, it is the name of a book written many years after the events of which it portrays and is indeed taken directly from Shakespeare which is, ofc, public domain.
I'm afraid you can complain all you want but we are covered.
There is a massive difference between our name and naming a company 4s or SAS.
dbp
actually, how you came up with the name would not matter at all. As long as _one_ random idiot finds that it is offensive or whatever it could be petitioned. I'll bet my computer (it's sweet) that somebody wrote the letters SAS/4S next to each other at least once during the last 500 years (and completely unrelated to any of the known SAS/4s entities).
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Cookie
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:13:00 -
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Why don't we petition the hell out of each other till everybody just wears a name with a number, then we all meet up for the final battle .. like .. even vs odd numbers or so.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Deathwing Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43 "Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/ http://www.interbusonline.com/ http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/ http://www.ore-inc.com/ http://www.oreresearch.com.au/main.htm
Echelon Entertainment - http://www.echelonent.com/
Mercantile Club - http://www.mercantile-club.com/
Senate and Supreme Court Corporations in the Gallente Federation, im sure we are all aware that many countries have in their governmental body a "Senate" and a "Supreme Court" so that to would also be emulating a real-world group
If CCP wants to play on semantics, i can spend more then 5 minutes scrolling thru CCP created NPC corp names and googling stuff and finding references to rl groups and organizations
in closing
give them their names back sit down and stfu
QFT. -omg-
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Smart Ass
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:19:00 -
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Had a GM ask me to change my name untill i explained ASS was a donkey of some description
And OMG...WTF, who never engadged there brain before making a silly move like changing a corp name
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cookie
Why don't we petition the hell out of each other till everybody just wears a name with a number, then we all meet up for the final battle .. like .. even vs odd numbers or so.
Lol.
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Grash Freedom
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Posted - 2005.11.07 20:36:00 -
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???????????????????????????????????????????????????
CCP plz fix you stupidar and when you do let us know. A formal letter with all the personnel that you have fired will be just ok.
and BEWARE we ARE eve! WE control the game, and we had enough,
BTW change our corp name plz there is a RL corp named MAZA after Mohamed Ali Zainal Abdulla(the owner) www.maza.com
Hmm wait a sec!! maza it's a greek word after all and it means mass, i will have the Greek goverment to sue this guy for trademark! How he dares to name his company MAZA?
Corp names that must be changed!!!!
Zeta Aquilae : zeta after the motorbike police force in greece Zeta interstellar Industries ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Zeta-reticuli corp ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:16:00 -
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There goes my idea about petitioning stupid corps for their name as kieron said its griefing now :(
Damn BoB can keep their names now ________________________________________________________ Freedom is illusion created by weird voices in my head |
Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon There goes my idea about petitioning stupid corps for their name as kieron said its griefing now :(
Damn BoB can keep their names now
Hell no. Then they better give us back the name to. If that suddenly is griefing. It's on the same agreement to the rules. You cannot be that a-moral. It's not like you can ban us for the name and then disregard the same rule when applied to others. Either you follow the rule or you don't. SoonÖ
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: s4mp3r0r on 07/11/2005 21:36:26
Originally by: Yuzier OA Band of brothers, ISS, Oracle Corp and many other names currently residing in in EVE has real world counterparts.
Even CCP has problems in that field, because many of their own coprnames are derived or can be found in the real world look at this
Amarr
or this
Caldari
The list goes on
Pator
hehe hope CCP has a copyright
CCP
Never knew these guys also made software, they are smart
Concord
Pirate orgs, make rl money
Serpentis
And finally " Mordus legion" google it and you if your good at french you will find, that it was part of the French legion figthing in the Sahara, they where accused of warcrimes and crimes against humanity, but hey this is only a game right CCP
LOL, I did the same in the general discussion thread. You found the same ones I did :D
here
CCP gets owned so hard it almost makes ME cry...
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Well I love that you can strike back those ebil pie-rats by this way. Petitioning their name or corp name is very nice way to cause serious harm to 'em. Bwahahahah!
Originally by: Kuolematon There goes my idea about petitioning stupid corps for their name as kieron said its griefing now :(
Damn BoB can keep their names now
Its players like you that are the reason the term "Exploit" exists. If you seriously have no personal/moral problems with the statements of yours I quoted above, then you not only have no respect for this game and the effort players put into it, but you also have no respect for the concept's of honor and fairplay.
This thread contains opinions from nearly every "side" of Eve, if all you can see here is an opportunity to hurt your ingame enemies...
I deeply pity you.
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RatBoy Deblade
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:43:00 -
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I think this is just to fracking stupid.
Smells like communist-**** all the way! We better start protesting now instead of sitting this out. I think some npc-names are very dubios and started a petition for one of them. If the want to change names for ¦corpnames like S.A.S they should change there npc-corp for naming themselfes after drugs or names associated with drugs since i find that too offensive.
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Agama
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Posted - 2005.11.07 21:46:00 -
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This is crap plain and simple. Infact...its like the same crap Anzac Alliance copped (to a different degree) because some mod/gm thought it was offensive that we wanted to do an event to mark the passing of the last "ANZAC" here in Oz.
Changing a long standing corp name is just nuts.
'Death solves all problems- no man, no problem' J.V. Stalin, 1918
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:08:00 -
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Oh and KIA should get banned as well then ?
I mean many people can be offended at that name as it means irl Killed In Action , it might be soem EvE Players have lost close friends or family who got KIA .
Oh and EvE itselves comes from a movie as well and so on .... _________________
You can suck my battleship.
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Balazs Simon OMG, this is BS...
Are we in danger ? HUN is the direct representation of our our country...
And damn... my char name is my real life name alos... and I exist in RL, and it can directly be linked to me ... omg, will my name changed to EVEplayer1111eleven!!111 ?
or WTF..
No Balu, your RL name will have to be changed!
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:41:00 -
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"Playboy Enterprises", "Asguard Security Service", "Pantera technologies", "CyberDyne Industries", "Enigma Inc", "KR0M", "BINFORD economics", and "The Babylon5 Consortuim" are in violation of one copyright or another, and "CCCP INC", "Communist Vikings", "ROMANIA Renegades", "Capitalist BloodSuckers Inc" and "People's Front Of Judea" all violate at least one part of the non-political provisions. Please change them immediately.
Sorry, not immediately. First, you should go change all of the copyright violations YOU YOURSELVES HAVE COMMITTED.
It really upsets me when these "rules" are enforced in such a biased fashion.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Cookie
Why don't we petition the hell out of each other till everybody just wears a name with a number, then we all meet up for the final battle .. like .. even vs odd numbers or so.
Best idea ever? :o
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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zincol
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:46:00 -
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a list of over 50 corps have been sent to ccp and more r still going in apparently.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Deathwing Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43 "Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/ http://www.interbusonline.com/ http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/ http://www.ore-inc.com/ http://www.oreresearch.com.au/main.htm
Echelon Entertainment - http://www.echelonent.com/
Mercantile Club - http://www.mercantile-club.com/
Senate and Supreme Court Corporations in the Gallente Federation, im sure we are all aware that many countries have in their governmental body a "Senate" and a "Supreme Court" so that to would also be emulating a real-world group
If CCP wants to play on semantics, i can spend more then 5 minutes scrolling thru CCP created NPC corp names and googling stuff and finding references to rl groups and organizations
in closing
give them their names back sit down and stfu
OMFG CCP Can you say PWND, you better change all thos crop names b4 the GM's change them to Caldari NPC Corp 00125
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Dark Big
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Posted - 2005.11.07 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hanns
Originally by: Deathwing Edited by: Deathwing on 07/11/2005 06:03:43 "Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups"
InterBus - http://www.interbus.co.nz/ http://www.interbusonline.com/ http://www.interbus.com.pl/
ORE - http://www.ore.com/ http://www.ore-inc.com/ http://www.oreresearch.com.au/main.htm
Echelon Entertainment - http://www.echelonent.com/
Mercantile Club - http://www.mercantile-club.com/
Senate and Supreme Court Corporations in the Gallente Federation, im sure we are all aware that many countries have in their governmental body a "Senate" and a "Supreme Court" so that to would also be emulating a real-world group
If CCP wants to play on semantics, i can spend more then 5 minutes scrolling thru CCP created NPC corp names and googling stuff and finding references to rl groups and organizations
in closing
give them their names back sit down and stfu
OMFG CCP Can you say PWND, you better change all thos crop names b4 the GM's change them to Caldari NPC Corp 00125
powned!!
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2005.11.07 23:28:00 -
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I can understand if a corp name was derogatory to a group ie woman bashing or against Christians or something like that. But S.A.S and 4S, come on that is a little much. I was going to start a corp called the Red Devils, guess that would have been changed on me due to the WWII reference.
CCP has to take a lighter view on these things. If you really wanted to you could take any Corp name in EVE and find a RL reference somewhere. People name their corps after things they are either passionate about or just really think the name is cool for the most part. The ones that want to be idiots fair enough change the name, otherwiseà GIVE THE NAMES BACK ALREADY!!
Battle Angels Gather, They Warp In, Guns Engage, Ships Die.
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